Rap Music Interesting Video

Oh, please! This is one of the silliest conspiracy theories I have ever heard. It is even worse than the idea of heavy metal bands doing backward "masking" of lyrics influencing kids to become Satan worshippers. If a story starts with "there was this anonymous letter about some anonymous people meeting with a guy they didn't know in a secret place", all my alarm bells go off at once. And just the idea that a genre of music will inspire people to become criminals on a large scale? PLEASE! If people don't understand that the problems are underlying social issues, but blame it on somebody conspiring to push a form of music that will "hypnotize" people, we have a problem. I kind of wish music had this power, though. It would mean we had the chance to change the world in a positive way as well.

When the guy says: "To me, it seems highly plausible that it is true", I couldn't help but wonder if they were just kidding. I mean, COME ON! You blame rap music for people becoming criminals??? If music had this kind of power, why haven't everyone listening to metal music become corpse robbing satanists?

Jesus wept...
 
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WavMixer said:
I didn't say it was true, however I did find it interesting.
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I know you didn't say it was true, sorry if I came across like I was blaming you. But to be honest, I don't find stuff like this interesting either. I find them counter-productive in nature. They take extremely far-fetched bogus theories and present them as POSSIBLE truths. Just like conspiracy theories in general. They create a climate where the real truth is being questioned and where source criticism and source references are completely disregarded. And as usual "the media" is portrayed as a bad guy. This is probably the most dangerous aspect of conspiracy theories. By always blaming the media for giving us fake news or having an agenda, a case can be made against a free press in general. And if we loose the freedom of the press we are TRULY up poop creek.

In this example, what is more likely?

That gangster rap has become popular because the contents of the music, and controversy, bling and sexy women in videos sell and therefore is being pushed by record companies and MTV? And that most crime is the result of inequality, social problems and poverty?

Or that the private prison system has made a secret pact with the media and record industry in order to lure people into becoming criminals who end up in jail? And all this is being accomplished by pushing rap music in the media?

Last time I checked, both rich and poor people, people with good and bad lives listen to gangster rap. But the statistics will tell you that poor people leading crap lives are a lot more likely to end up in jail. Does being relatively wealthy make people immune to the gruesome effects of rap music?
 
Gahr said:
I know you didn't say it was true, sorry if I came across like I was blaming you. But to be honest, I don't find stuff like this interesting either. I find them counter-productive in nature. They take extremely far-fetched bogus theories and present them as POSSIBLE truths. Just like conspiracy theories in general. They create a climate where the real truth is being questioned and where source criticism and source references are completely disregarded. And as usual "the media" is portrayed as a bad guy. This is probably the most dangerous aspect of conspiracy theories. By always blaming the media for giving us fake news or having an agenda, a case can be made against a free press in general. And if we loose the freedom of the press we are TRULY up poo creek.

In this example, what is more likely?

That gangster rap has become popular because the contents of the music, and controversy, bling and sexy women in videos sell and therefore is being pushed by record companies and MTV? And that most crime is the result of inequality, social problems and poverty?

Or that the private prison system has made a secret pact with the media and record industry in order to lure people into becoming criminals who end up in jail? And all this is being accomplished by pushing rap music in the media?

Last time I checked, both rich and poor people, people with good and bad lives listen to gangster rap. But the statistics will tell you that poor people leading crap lives are a lot more likely to end up in jail. Does being relatively wealthy make people immune to the gruesome effects of rap music?
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Does the red color mean you agree or that you dont think I don't find conspiracy theories interesting?;)

To clarify: In general I really don't find the contents of any given conspiracy theory interesting as such. But as a phenomenon I find them interesting in as far as I think they represent something rather unhealthy in our modern society. Conspiracy theorists often claim to be promoting critical thinking when in reality they do just the opposite; they show a lack of understanding of facts and promote the cherry picking of ideas, rumors and misinformation that support their own weird views. If they want to question things, they should start by questioning their own "knowledge".

Does that mean there are no conspiracies to be found? Of course not. But the truth will out. Every now and then scandals are revealed, in politics, in business and elsewhere. But most of the time the really "deep" theories are just total BS.
 
Gahr said:
Does the red color mean you agree or that you dont think I don't find conspiracy theories interesting?;)

To clarify: In general I really don't find the contents of any given conspiracy theory interesting as such. But as a phenomenon I find them interesting in as far as I think they represent something rather unhealthy in our modern society. Conspiracy theorists often claim to be promoting critical thinking when in reality they do just the opposite; they show a lack of understanding of facts and promote the cherry picking of ideas, rumors and misinformation that support their own weird views. If they want to question things, they should start by questioning their own "knowledge".

Does that mean there are no conspiracies to be found? Of course not. But the truth will out. Every now and then scandals are revealed, in politics, in business and elsewhere. But most of the time the really "deep" theories are just total BS.
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I agree with you, my friend. You know, I have come to realize that my tastes and interests are so narrow that I seldom have much in common with anyone...as such, I've really limited my posts of late...
 
Theories are just that, theories until proven as a fact. Such as the Theory of Relativity, it is a theory, not a proven fact. Gravity is also a theory and not a proven fact. I am a crappy guitar player, this is a proven fact.
 
Gahr said:
Conspiracy theories are not a problem in themselves. The problem is that they instill in a lot of people a disregard for real facts and proper critical thinking.
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I have had an interest in conspiracy theories for many years. Just because I read or hear a conspiracy theory, I do not take it for truth. However if it sounds feasible I do take it in to consideration and do not eliminate the possibility of it being true until I have evidence that it is not true. Chem trails are a conspiracy, but I have seen the evidence with my own eyes for many years.

My grandson was living with us for a while and we found girls clothing in a bag in his room. We had a theory that he had a girl staying with him without us knowing for a fact. Another theory could have been he liked dressing up in girls clothes. Or perhaps he was doing laundry for the girl. My first theory came into being a fact when I caught the girl hiding under the bed. Theory proven and morphed into fact. When people close their minds to evidence, this prevents them discovering a new truth. People told Columbus he would fall off of the Earth because it was a known fact. Columbus had a theory that the world was round. His adventure proved that his theory was a fact. It is not until we question reality that we are able to discover new truths. I used to work for a man who said "Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see."
 
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WavMixer said:
I have had an interest in conspiracy theories for many years. Just because I read or hear a conspiracy theory, I do not take it for truth. However if it sounds feasible I do take it in to consideration and do not eliminate the possibility of it being true until I have evidence that it is not true. Chem trails are a conspiracy, but I have seen the evidence with my own eyes for many years.

My grandson was living with us for a while and we found girls clothing in a bag in his room. We had a theory that he had a girl staying with him without us knowing for a fact. Another theory could have been he liked dressing up in girls clothes. Or perhaps he was doing laundry for the girl. My first theory came into being a fact when I caught the girl hiding under the bed. Theory proven and morphed into fact. When people close their minds to evidence, this prevents them discovering a new truth. People told Columbus he would fall off of the Earth because it was a known fact. Columbus had a theory that the world was round. His adventure proved that his theory was a fact. It is not until we question reality that we are able to discover new truths. I used to work for a man who said "Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see."
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The problem is that a lot of the conspiracy theories still persist after they have been proven to be bs. Some people still believe the earth is flat, even if all scientific evidence shows us that it is not. People start thinking that their views are the only right ones, REGARDLESS of the evidence.

Of course not all theories that go against established truths are wrong by default. The advance of science and scientific research is in itself proof of that. But some theories are just to far out to be taken seriously.
 
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