Power Conditioner Block for Live Use???

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I've been using a Fuhrman SS-6B power strip (surge/emi/rfi) unit, for a very long time. It has always seemed adequate, but maybe I should be running something better???

Fuhrman makes a SS-6B Pro as well that trips a breaker at +130VAC.

If I upgrade, I need something compact.

Thoughts????
 
Don O said:
How many outlets do you need? All plugs or some wall warts? I’ve bought many different brands and sizes over the years.
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Currently I'm using a Fuhrman SS-6B (6 outlet) and powering 2 amps, 2 one spots and a powered stage monitor.
 
Robert Herndon said:
@smitty_p , @syscokid , @Don O
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There are actually a few areas of noise to consider. The frustrating part is that solving one area doesn’t fix another area.

1. Environmental Noise - this is airborne noise that your guitar pickups and unterminated guitar cables can pick up from the air. You can address this somewhat with shielding your guitar’s pickups and using humbucking pickups.

2. “Dirty Power” - this is noise that exists on the actual AC power. This is usually a function of a venue’s wiring or mains service. It can also pick up environmental noise. Your equipment picks this up when you plug into the wall outlet. You can’t do anything directly about this - unless you want to rewire the building! It can also occur from certain AC/DC converters that induce noise into the DC line feeding your pedals.

You can deal with this somewhat through filtered power strips, but they can vary quite a bit in quality. For my customers who have the money, I usually recommend SurgeX. But, Furman is pretty good, too.

The absolute best way to deal with this is also the most expensive and difficult. That is, get a large, double-conversion uninterruptible power supply and run the entire band from that. A double-conversion UPS rectifies AC to DC. The DC is used to charge the batteries, and it is inverted back into a perfectly clean AC sine wave, free of noise or interference. However, getting an adequate UPS would run into a few thousand dollars and would be very heavy, so it’s probably not a very feasible option.

However, you could still get a smaller UPS just for yourself. This would replace any filtered power strips and would ensure you get good, clean power and are protected from sudden power outages. They do make smaller, double-conversion UPS units, but they are still several hundred dollars.

3. Ground Loops - This is caused by differences of potential in the ground connection between two or more interconnected devices that are connected to AC power (Like you experienced with your multi-amp setup).


Like I said, fixing one doesn’t necessarily fix another. You could have perfectly clean power, but still pick up noise from the air through your guitar. You could use a filtered power strip for your gear that really cleans up the power, but you could still have a ground loop, depending on how you’re connected.
 
I like this one. The odd outlets would be great for One Spots.

What you guys think about it's features and circuit protection potential???

Power Consumption: 6 Watts for display and control circuits independent of actual load
- AC Noise Attenuation: Transverse (Differential) Mode:
- > 40 dB from 150 kHz - 100 MHz
- Dimensions: 1.7" H x 11.75" W x 5" D
- Transient Voltage Surge Suppression: 120 VAC - fused MOV shunt protection L-N
- Telco
- Cable/Satellite (less than .1dB insertion loss)
- AC Current Capacity: Input - 15 Amps capacity required
- Output - 15 Amps RMS (Maximum, all outlets combined - continuous)
- Outlets: 8 filtered outlets
- Safety Agency Listing: C-UL (UL standard #1449, #1363)
- Warranty: The PST-2+6 is protected by a one year limited warranty covering defects in materials and workmanship (see manual for details).

Furman PST-2 Plus 6 Power Station AC Power Conditioner | zZounds

More than just a power strip, the Furman PST-2+6 delivers clean AC power and surge suppression to 8 outlets -- plus, it protects your phone and cable lines.
www.zzounds.com www.zzounds.com
 
Robert Herndon said:
I like this one. The odd outlets would be great for One Spots.

What you guys think about it's features and circuit protection potential???

Power Consumption: 6 Watts for display and control circuits independent of actual load
- AC Noise Attenuation: Transverse (Differential) Mode:
- > 40 dB from 150 kHz - 100 MHz
- Dimensions: 1.7" H x 11.75" W x 5" D
- Transient Voltage Surge Suppression: 120 VAC - fused MOV shunt protection L-N
- Telco
- Cable/Satellite (less than .1dB insertion loss)
- AC Current Capacity: Input - 15 Amps capacity required
- Output - 15 Amps RMS (Maximum, all outlets combined - continuous)
- Outlets: 8 filtered outlets
- Safety Agency Listing: C-UL (UL standard #1449, #1363)
- Warranty: The PST-2+6 is protected by a one year limited warranty covering defects in materials and workmanship (see manual for details).

Furman PST-2 Plus 6 Power Station AC Power Conditioner | zZounds

More than just a power strip, the Furman PST-2+6 delivers clean AC power and surge suppression to 8 outlets -- plus, it protects your phone and cable lines.
www.zzounds.com www.zzounds.com
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MCR Portable Series Power Conditioners
The MCR and MPC provide excellent noise filtering and surge protection to protect connected equipment from damage, degradation or misoperation. Combined with the excellent voltage regulation inherent to Sola/Hevi-Duty’s patented ferroresonant design, they can increase the actual Mean Time Before Failure (MTBF) of protected equipment. These units are a perfect choice where dirty power caused by impulses, swell, sags, brownouts and waveform distortion can lead to costly downtime because of damaged equipment. Features
  • Noise attenuation
    • 120 dB common mode
    • 60 dB transverse mode
  • Harmonic filtering
  • Point-of-use Protection
    • Cord & Plug Connected
    • Easy & Flexible Installation
  • No maintenance required
  • Surge suppression tested to ANSI/IEEE C62.41 Class A & B Waveform: <10 V let through typical
  • Galvanic isolation provides exceptional circuit protection
  • 25 year typical MTBF
  • ±3% output voltage regulation
PDF Files

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MCR Portable Series Specifications
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MCR Portable Series Model Comparison
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Operating Characteristics

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Amp Mad Scientist said:
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MCR Portable Series Power Conditioners
The MCR and MPC provide excellent noise filtering and surge protection to protect connected equipment from damage, degradation or misoperation. Combined with the excellent voltage regulation inherent to Sola/Hevi-Duty’s patented ferroresonant design, they can increase the actual Mean Time Before Failure (MTBF) of protected equipment. These units are a perfect choice where dirty power caused by impulses, swell, sags, brownouts and waveform distortion can lead to costly downtime because of damaged equipment. Features
  • Noise attenuation
    • 120 dB common mode
    • 60 dB transverse mode
  • Harmonic filtering
  • Point-of-use Protection
    • Cord & Plug Connected
    • Easy & Flexible Installation
  • No maintenance required
  • Surge suppression tested to ANSI/IEEE C62.41 Class A & B Waveform: <10 V let through typical
  • Galvanic isolation provides exceptional circuit protection
  • 25 year typical MTBF
  • ±3% output voltage regulation
PDF Files


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No doubt that's the cat's meow, but I need lighter and more portable.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I like this one. The odd outlets would be great for One Spots.

What you guys think about it's features and circuit protection potential???

Power Consumption: 6 Watts for display and control circuits independent of actual load
- AC Noise Attenuation: Transverse (Differential) Mode:
- > 40 dB from 150 kHz - 100 MHz
- Dimensions: 1.7" H x 11.75" W x 5" D
- Transient Voltage Surge Suppression: 120 VAC - fused MOV shunt protection L-N
- Telco
- Cable/Satellite (less than .1dB insertion loss)
- AC Current Capacity: Input - 15 Amps capacity required
- Output - 15 Amps RMS (Maximum, all outlets combined - continuous)
- Outlets: 8 filtered outlets
- Safety Agency Listing: C-UL (UL standard #1449, #1363)
- Warranty: The PST-2+6 is protected by a one year limited warranty covering defects in materials and workmanship (see manual for details).

Furman PST-2 Plus 6 Power Station AC Power Conditioner | zZounds

More than just a power strip, the Furman PST-2+6 delivers clean AC power and surge suppression to 8 outlets -- plus, it protects your phone and cable lines.
www.zzounds.com www.zzounds.com
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Well, interesting. I have 2 just like that I’ve had for years, but no Furman logo. I just installed one of them in the studio a few days.

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I have at least 5 rack mount surge protector power conditioners from various companies…ADA, Juice Goose, Furman, and Tube Works. Furman seems to be the king of the hill these days…


That one is pretty similar to my Tube Works unit that powers the live room mixer and effects rack.
There’s no phone or cable protection bologna in these…they’re made for sound gear.
 
Anything that lays on the floor, with receptacles facing up, is begging for a beer to spill.
A small, 3 space, rack case would provide protection, portability, safety, and space to stow stuff…like cables…or whatever works for you.
 
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