Possible Upcoming Jackson Mods

This "Les Paul type controls" mod is something I am also seriously considering for my H H Jackson. The "master volume/master tone" configuration is the only thing I don't like about the guitar. I'm thinking of removing the volume & tone pots, plugging the holes & drilling 4 new ones in the typical Les Paul layout. I need to make a template of the cavity first, to be sure it'll all fit, though the controls may all need to be tad closer together than on a Les Paul. Cheers

For me, I think redrilling new holes is a non-starter. Given the type of finish on the guitar, I don’t think I’d be able to refinish the area properly. So, I have to work with what I’ve got. I will be able to make the controls fit, but I’ll end up with an elongated parallelogram pattern for the knobs. It will help if I also switch to a quality mini pot, like a Bourns.

I find that I blend pickups so much with an H-H guitar that the single volume/tone is a little inhibiting.
 
IS concentric pots ---VOL/VOl and TOne/Tone not an option?

I’ve looked into those. The good ones have a really short threaded bushing and are made to mount in a plastic pick guard. They’re too short for the thicker surface of a wooden body.

The concentric pots with longer bushings that I’ve been able to find look to be really cheap pots.

I’ve considered trying them out, just to see how well they work, but I’d likely have to drill the holes larger for them. If I didn’t like them, I may end up with holes that are too large for more normal-sized bushings.

They aren’t off the table, though.

The other thing is familiarity. When I play, I just reach down and rotate the knob with the edge of my pinky. I don’t actually twist the knob with my thumb and forefinger. This allows me to adjust the controls while keeping my pick grip constant.

Having individual knobs allows for quicker, on-the-fly adjustments.

In a way, I’m a Ted Nugent sort of player. In live videos I’ve seen of him, I see him make frequent sweeping motions across the lower part of the guitar as he adjusts controls and the pickup switch (the pickup switch is in the lower horn on a Gibson Byrdland). SRV did similar things while playing his Strat. I chuckle when I see that because I kind of do the same thing - frequently manipulate controls through a song. I’m definitely not a set-it-and-forget-it kind of player.
 
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I am trying to get comfortable getting lead boost with the vol knob(s). Going in is ok but rolling back to rhythm level on the fly is hard.
 
I am trying to get comfortable getting lead boost with the vol knob(s). Going in is ok but rolling back to rhythm level on the fly is hard.

I answered that issue for myself with a clean boost pedal. But, even then, I may roll the knobs a bit.

But, I often play clean passages and the proper tone (at least the tone that’s proper to me!) can’t be achieved just with tone controls. The pickup blend becomes pretty important to getting the right tone.

Getting clean sounds right is often more challenging than dirty tones.
 
I’ve looked into those. The good ones have a really short threaded bushing and are made to mount in a plastic pick guard. They’re too short for the thicker surface of a wooden body.

The concentric pots with longer bushings that I’ve been able to find look to be really cheap pots.

I’ve considered trying them out, just to see how well they work, but I’d likely have to drill the holes larger for them. If I didn’t like them, I may end up with holes that are too large for more normal-sized bushings.

They aren’t off the table, though.

The other thing is familiarity. When I play, I just reach down and rotate the knob with the edge of my pinky. I don’t actually twist the knob with my thumb and forefinger. This allows me to adjust the controls while keeping my pick grip constant.

Having individual knobs allows for quicker, on-the-fly adjustments.

In a way, I’m a Ted Nugent sort of player. In live videos I’ve seen of him, I see him make frequent sweeping motions across the lower part of the guitar as he adjusts controls and the pickup switch (the pickup switch is in the lower horn on a Gibson Byrdland). SRV did similar things while playing his Strat. I chuckle when I see that because I kind of do the same thing - frequently manipulate controls through a song. I’m definitely not a set-it-and-forget-it kind of player.

When I was putting the finishing touches on my Ibanez Destroyer II replica, I used Alpha mini pots. They have a long threaded shank....

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I answered that issue for myself with a clean boost pedal. But, even then, I may roll the knobs a bit.

But, I often play clean passages and the proper tone (at least the tone that’s proper to me!) can’t be achieved just with tone controls. The pickup blend becomes pretty important to getting the right tone.

Getting clean sounds right is often more challenging than dirty tones.

When I was playing a lot of country, that was an issue. I thought i might actually wear out my volume and tone knobs. In the rock genre, everything is just so much easier.

I set my master volume about 3/4 to 7/8 and run the volume pedal in the loop. For a solo, I just roll up the volume on the pedal and then roll back for rhythm.

I have one channel on the Blackstar pre-set with really heavy delay and reverb. I might even switch to that to make a lead sound fuller.

When recording, however, I will use all manner of cool effects...
 
I set my master volume about 3/4 to 7/8 and run the volume pedal in the loop. For a solo, I just roll up the volume on the pedal and then roll back for rhythm.

I use a volume pedal in the loop, too. But, adjusting the guitar pots affects more than just volume. It affects the signal level hitting the preamp, which changes the gain. On all out distortion, a tweak here or there is less noticeable. However, when going for a generally clean sound with a bit of edginess, the volume pedal in the loop does affect the volume, but less so the “gaininess” of the sound. Changes made using the pots or gain/boost pedals prior to the amp input really help with that.
 
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But, adjusting the guitar pots affects more than just volume. It affects the signal level hitting the preamp, which changes the gain.

In my case, thats what I'm going for.
I have a zevex SHO clone clean boost, but I am also trying to effectively learn to ride the volume knob as well.
 
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You both describe great techniques!!!!

I don't dig the loss of gain when the volume knob is rolled off. The exception to this is when playing 'Hotel California' on the 12 string clean, at which time I will select both pickups and volume and tone rolled back slightly. Other than this, most of what I play is flat-out rock-n-roll....
 
Have you ever considered just getting a guitar built to your exacting specifications from total scratch???

Hmm...what would that look like?

It would be sort of a Strat-scale, 24.75”, solid-bodied, semi-hollow, HH, SSS, HSS guitar with a large, small body and a set, bolt-on neck with a Bigsby Floyd Rose.

Could be kind of a monstrosity.

No.

It’s better I do it this way - get a couple of mod platforms and tinker!
 
Hmm...what would that look like?

It would be sort of a Strat-scale, 24.75”, solid-bodied, semi-hollow, HH, SSS, HSS guitar with a large, small body and a set, bolt-on neck with a Bigsby Floyd Rose.

Could be kind of a monstrosity.

No.

It’s better I do it this way - get a couple of mod platforms and tinker!

I hate tinkering...it takes away from playing... :-)
 
Parts ordered.

I gotta clean out the mad science laboratory to prepare the patient...
So your going with the original plan of a 2 volume, 2 tone control set up with coil split switch & the 3 way switch moved to the upper horn??
I still haven't done anything with mine but need to, the master volume & tone control set up isn't doing it for me, which is a pity, it's a great guitar other than the controls. Luckily, mine has a simple " satin red" finish, so if I drill holes & stuff it up I could simply plug & put a few bullet hole transfers over them (or something like). Be interesting to see how yours turns out. Cheers
 
So your going with the original plan of a 2 volume, 2 tone control set up with coil split switch & the 3 way switch moved to the upper horn??

Yup. I played it at an event for the first time in awhile and was rather irritated at having to flick at the switch on the other side of the volume knob to switch pickups. Plus, not being able to adjust the blend is a drawback.

I think I’ll be okay with the current switch position for a coil spilt as I use that function less often. But, as often as I change pickups, I need that switch more accessible.
 
Patient prepped for surgery:

Front:

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Rear:


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Just prior to actually beginning the operation, I'll apply masking tape to the front and rear to protect the finish and help avoid chipping.

I will probably need to route away the top anchor point for the cavity cover to make room for the new neck volume pot if I want to maintain symmetry. I'll glue in a new piece of wood to the left or right of the existing spot for a new point to screw the top of the cavity cover down. But, I'll know more after the new pots arrive.
 
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