PCB In Gibsons:

So, let me see if I got this straight.

What you're saying...is that it was the connector?
 
Robert Herndon said:
Thank you, Man!!!!
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I just hit them up again.

But I will tell you, I've done some searching for the Molex crimp tool on my own. Some of them can be incredibly expensive...like around $300.00! I don't know if the one for these connectors will be like that. We'll see when Molex gets back to me.

That's why a lot of guys just try to crimp with needle-nose pliers or just solder a wire to the little metal pins or sockets.

But, when you're doing a lot of production work, the cost of the tool is paid for in labor time saved on the job.
 
smitty_p said:
I just hit them up again.

But I will tell you, I've done some searching for the Molex crimp tool on my own. Some of them can be incredibly expensive...like around $300.00! I don't know if the one for these connectors will be like that. We'll see when Molex gets back to me.

That's why a lot of guys just try to crimp with needle-nose pliers or just solder a wire to the little metal pins or sockets.

But, when you're doing a lot of production work, the cost of the tool is paid for in labor time saved on the job.
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True...I'm curious to see what the correct tool is...
 
Alternatively, I could do this:

http://r.ebay.com/28ScGr

But, I always prefer the correct tool if it isn't cost prohibitive.

If the crimping tool is indeed $300, I can buy a pair of Gibson 57 Classics already set up for 5-pin quick connect for less than that....
 
Ok,

Did a little experimenting on the SG this morning...I checked all the grounds on the guitar and everything appears to be in order. Using my Snap-On DVOM, set to the lowest (200 ohm) scale, I obtained readings of 01.1 ohms at all ground points in the cavity and between the bridge, tailpiece and pots. Even then tuning keys have good continuity, and the input jack also had good continuity.

Since this 'circuit board" really has nothing on it other than a trace, I really cannot see the 'board" ever giving you any trouble.

I believe these pickups are the culprit...
 
So, after a lot of head scratching, I think I have a direction on this 2016 Gibson SG...

There probably isn't anything wrong with the PCB (or PCB's in general) but the fact that Gibson makes 2, 3 and 5 wire Quick Connects adds a lot of mystery to finding the correct pickup without using adapter plugs. So, I spoke to a luthier friend and we came up with a plan. He proposes that we build a harness for the SG based on brand new (heavy) cloth covered wire, Bournes (sp?) pots and a Russian K42Y .033uf cap in the bridge position and a .015uf cap in the neck position. He has quite a selection of Gibson pickups, and just within a few minutes, we found a pair of covered PAF (Gibson stamped) pickups that measured 8.08k and 8.11k @ 70°F.

So, at least for now, I am going to continue to look in that direction....
 
Robert Herndon said:
So, after a lot of head scratching, I think I have a direction on this 2016 Gibson SG...

There probably isn't anything wrong with the PCB (or PCB's in general) but the fact that Gibson makes 2, 3 and 5 wire Quick Connects adds a lot of mystery to finding the correct pickup without using adapter plugs. So, I spoke to a luthier friend and we came up with a plan. He proposes that we build a harness for the SG based on brand new (heavy) cloth covered wire, Bournes (sp?) pots and a Russian K42Y .033uf cap in the bridge position and a .015uf cap in the neck position. He has quite a selection of Gibson pickups, and just within a few minutes, we found a pair of covered PAF (Gibson stamped) pickups that measured 8.08k and 8.11k @ 70°F.

So, at least for now, I am going to continue to look in that direction....
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And, that's where I tend to temper my opinion about the PCB. I maintain that, functionally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a PCB. I would even say it is superior in some ways. I have no issues with it and wouldn't remove one just because it's there. But, it is true, when it comes to modding, it is more of an effort to source parts and connectors, especially when there are so many guitar parts websites that allow procurement of all the parts to build a traditional wiring harness all in one order. Those small Molex connectors and other parts can require a bit more investigation to procure and will likely require ordering from more than one website.
 
smitty_p said:
And, that's where I tend to temper my opinion about the PCB. I maintain that, functionally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a PCB. I would even say it is superior in some ways. I have no issues with it and wouldn't remove one just because it's there. But, it is true, when it comes to modding, it is more of an effort to source parts and connectors, especially when there are so many guitar parts websites that allow procurement of all the parts to build a traditional wiring harness all in one order. Those small Molex connectors and other parts can require a bit more investigation to procure and will likely require ordering from more than one website.
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Exactly...

I am not a believer in vintage or 50's wiring per se, but when it was offered as a solution, I accepted it. At low voltages, electrical signals cannot tell what conductor they are passing through, so if a PCB is working, then there is no electrical advantage to changing it...
 
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