Old Gibson's
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chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
I always loved the quality build of Milwaukee Sawzalls. They run so smoothly and are as dependable and solidly built to perform as a pro needs day in and day out.
I don't know how many would actually be good for any amount of time after a flood. If they were exposed to moisture for any amount of time, there's no telling how the guitar would have behaved as time went on. Even if a guitar could be salvaged in the short term, there's a real chance that other problems, like neck warping or twisting, would have developed later on.
It's sad for us to see this, but the ramifications down the line could have been a warranty headache for Gibson.
It's sad for us to see this, but the ramifications down the line could have been a warranty headache for Gibson.
Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
Man, you should just auction it off to one of us... Any of us could have that SG up and running
in a jiffy, with no more problems. Someone here ought to give you a fair price for it, and
relieve you of all this angst. I actually don't NEED any more guitars, or I would have made you a
fair offer by now.
The only reason to do all the work that you've set before yourself is: if you enjoy it.
Some of us do. Some of us work on guitars just for fun. Your joy to pain ratio seems
way out of line for an SG owner. I tend to regard instruments that I've worked on with
affection. That's the way it should be.
If you're not enjoying the project and begrudge the time and
effort, you should cash out and get back to playing guitars that you do love.
Life is short... good guitars are hard to find. Good music is even harder to achieve.
And you're an excellent player.
You own an SG and a pair of '57 classic p'ups... I done toll ya
and toll ya to put 'em together and rock. An hour or two on the bench, and plug it in and enjoy tone heaven.
That's what any of us would do. An SG with '57s has a tone to die for.
And yours has that lovely grain and finish. It deserves a set of '57s and a good wiring harness.
And then it deserves to play music. And so do you. You've had enough trouble.
Time to declare victory and bring the troops home.
Tony M.
Ambassador
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
There are many schools of thought when it comes to a tool purchase. As long as I have been in business for myself, I have always bought quality tools.
My Porter Cable, Milwaukee,Hitachi,Makita,Dewalt, Bosch, tools all do as Tony said, "pay for themselves"
When a man can pull the tool from his truck and plug in and trust it to work and do the job and make him able to create things from raw materials and skill, then that is a fine testimony to the tools and the companies that build them.
As soon as I can afford my next big tool move, I plan on outfitting my shop with Festool brand tools.
If no one knows of their quality and price point, the price of the tools is shortly pays for itself by time savings, cleaner jobsites, faster and more accurate cuts, and procedures, you should check them out. Good stuff from a man who knows.
OP
Hello, Colonel...
I'm an odd fellow. Quiet signal, perfect 2- point intonation (7th and 12th) and tuning stability are absolute must-haves for me. Only one guitar has ever given me all three....
Im sorry to report the Gibson 57 Classic's are not all that. Very noisy. So were the redesigned Gibson 490's. I'm officially done with all the distractions and money spending. I sold the stock 490R/490T out of the SG, the redesigned 490R/490T out of the 2017 Les Paul Tribute and the Gibson 57 Classic's and more than recovered my investment...more for the principal than profit.
Its funny you should post about the SG. I actually dragged it out and finished the Tone Man wire harness install today. The Switchcraft jack was OK. the problem was the copper tape made the hole too small. I trimmed it out with an X-acto knife and the .460" shoulder pulled right into place and I had two threads showing after installing the washer.
I also installed a new pair of Alinco II potted PAF clones i had sitting around gathering dust. These measure out around 7.93k bridge and 7.88k neck - measured at 56 degrees Fahrenheit.
Haven't strung it yet, so no idea how it will sound....and to be quite honest, I really don't care. At least its reassembled.
I went through the exact same problems with a brand new 2003 Gibson SG....if you read my 2004 emails to Gibson, that i posted, you will see that history repeated itself. Additionally, my 1968 Gibson SG was also a nightmare.
Anyways....no more effort into anything without a return.
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OP
Actually, I have been thinking the past couple weeks of raffling it off for $10 tickets...
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
HAHA Robert, you crack me up. Raffle tickets.
OP
Well...I haven't come up with a better idea yet to recoup my investment.....
Well...I haven't come up with a better idea yet to recoup my investment.....
Are you serious? That's actually not a bad idea. Once you get enough tickets sold to recover your money, do a little drawing. You could even post a Youtube video of the drawing. Then, you send the guitar to the lucky person.
You could always pull the video down later, if you wanted.
How many tickets would you have to sell?
I already have two SGs, and am not really in the market for another one, but I may still pop for a ten dollar ticket. I'll have to think about it, but I'm sure several others here would be interested.
OP
E.SG and I have been discussing the prospect. There are a lot of things to consider, like a very reliable drawing method, etc.
I think taking a break from the SG the past few weeks was a good thing. It was actually nice getting it wired back up yesterday....
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Smitty, that sounds cool. And Robert, I was chuckling because it was such a clever idea that I see how your mind works!!!! Brilliant and creative.
OP
Or desperate!!!! LOL
OP
Gibson PCB now officially replaced by Tone Man harness with .033uf/.015uf K40Y tone caps.
3 sets of Gibson pickups all had noise/muddiness issues.
These GFS Classic II's Alinco II Nickel Covered double wax potted PAF's 7.93k bridge and 7.88k neck measured at 56 degrees are dead-quiet and have that classic, early Gibson PAF tone....
3 sets of Gibson pickups all had noise/muddiness issues.
These GFS Classic II's Alinco II Nickel Covered double wax potted PAF's 7.93k bridge and 7.88k neck measured at 56 degrees are dead-quiet and have that classic, early Gibson PAF tone....