In response to the mesa question. I favor Peavey vs the mesa for tight metal..it has its own unique aggressive punch like no other. I think a real bargain is the Ultra-VTM-Mace-JSX-3120-valveking.. basically has shades the early 5150 thing goin on but really does hard rock well. Think of Skynyrd tone in the Mace..it sorta is its own tone. My first amp was a Valveking2 when switched to guitar..sometimes think i could of just stayed right there. Big American cleans & some attitude in OD,,pedals were great. Probably the best amp i ever used to allow a pedal to have its own pre amp tone effect. darn..i was chillin on the GAS..new quest !!