MURPHY LAB??? Gibson Reissue?

I wish they were making more than just the same as were originally shipped. As a result, way out of my budget. I guess I have to finish building round two, and be happy with my Korina w/ Brazilian model.

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They pre beat up a guitar and charge more. Ridiculous. You cannot get a reissue 1960 historic in Canada without destroyed hardware. Unless a custom order, you cannot.
Stupid. Had my eye on one. Forget it.
 
Cadorman said:
Yeah, they brought Murphy Labs in house.

It's all subjective destruction of a perfectly good guitar and then charging the scheisse out of it. I didn't get it when Fender started it and I still don't.
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The furniture makers started doing it first. They called it 'distressed' oak, etc.
The guitar guys started doing it about 20 years later.
But I have to agree with you.
finish checks look cool on old guitars, but why am i paying $7000 for a beat up new guitar?

i think it really comes down to:
It's easier to make a beat up guitar, call it "distressed," and charge more for it....
Compared to a new polished perfect guitar that takes a lot more effort to finish.

I think they are trying to make more money, for less work, and less quality.
They are just skipping the effort that a new guitar requires.

And you 'can' buy a non- VOS reissue, but it costs $1000 more !
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
The furniture makers started doing it first. They called it 'distressed' oak, etc.
The guitar guys started doing it about 20 years later.
But I have to agree with you.
finish checks look cool on old guitars, but why am i paying $7000 for a beat up new guitar?

i think it really comes down to:
It's easier to make a beat up guitar, call it "distressed," and charge more for it....
Compared to a new polished perfect guitar that takes a lot more effort to finish.

I think they are trying to make more money, for less work, and less quality.
They are just skipping the effort that a new guitar requires.

And you 'can' buy a non- VOS reissue, but it costs $1000 more !
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Except in Canada for a 1960 reissue. They do not offer it. Unless I try n get a custom shop made to order.

Here is the 1960 reissue on Gibson site. It is VOS hardware.

Gibson | 1960 Les Paul Standard Reissue

<p><em>Gibson Custom Shop is the pinnacle of craftsmanship, quality, and sound excellence. Each instrument celebrates Gibson's legacy through accuracy, authenticity and attention to detail.</em></p>1960 was the last year for the original Les Paul™ Standard, nearly identical to a 1959 model...
www.gibson.com www.gibson.com
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Except in Canada for a 1960 reissue. They do not offer it. Unless I try n get a custom shop made to order.

Here is the 1960 reissue on Gibson site. It is VOS hardware.

Gibson | 1960 Les Paul Standard Reissue

<p><em>Gibson Custom Shop is the pinnacle of craftsmanship, quality, and sound excellence. Each instrument celebrates Gibson's legacy through accuracy, authenticity and attention to detail.</em></p>1960 was the last year for the original Les Paul™ Standard, nearly identical to a 1959 model...
www.gibson.com www.gibson.com
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Custom shop will make what you want for $$$$.
I would like non VOS too.
There is one USA vendor that stocks non vos, and the price is much higher.

Well don't misunderstand, i like the cracked finish in an old guitar, when it's really old.
the cracks in the paint look very cool I think.
I love that on an old guitar
but they don't need to crack it on purpose when it's not really an old guitar.
And they don't need to rust the screws, etc, etc...
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
Custom shop will make what you want for $$$$.
I would like non VOS too.
There is one USA vendor that stocks non vos, and the price is much higher.

Well don't misunderstand, i like the cracked finish in an old guitar, when it's really old.
the cracks in the paint look very cool I think.
I love that on an old guitar
but they don't need to crack it on purpose when it's not really an old guitar.
And they don't need to rust the screws, etc, etc...
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Yep exactly!
And Custom Shop custom made to order only. Why not offer the same with good hardware?
 
Guitars that are artificially aged:
Like it or not, these guitars must be selling very well, otherwise Gibson, Fender, and others, wouldn't be continuing to make them. Maybe it's a fad, but it's is still popular after many years. I for one, wouldn't buy one because of the cost, but I do appreciate the craftsmanship involved in these type of guitars. It is not easier to make these, in fact it's the total opposite. My dos centavos... :victoire:
 
My 1960 RO custom shop Les Paul Standard was a special order in 2002 no such thing as VOS finish just gloss back then.
The extras were neck profile type one,Fltich Match top and Brazilian rosewood finger board.
18 years later the guitar opened up sings like a bird now.
 
I don’t the relic thing either. When it first appeared I was in a GC and asked the sales guy how much they wanted for the beat up Strat. I just about laughed when he said it was brand new and they made it that way !
 
syscokid said:
Guitars that are artificially aged:
Like it or not, these guitars must be selling very well, otherwise Gibson, Fender, and others, wouldn't be continuing to make them. Maybe it's a fad, but it's is still popular after many years. I for one, wouldn't buy one because of the cost, but I do appreciate the craftsmanship involved in these type of guitars. It is not easier to make these, in fact it's the total opposite. My dos centavos... :victoire:
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The reason why they make them is for the people who want "Instant Cred.", and not have to work for it. They need to look like they've played their guitars for hundreds of hours while the guitar to regular baths in beer, booze, sweat, and tobacco/weed smoke, even though they can barely take the time to learn to play. Never mind work up a sweat while doing it.
 
SG John said:
The reason why they make them is for the people who want "Instant Cred.", and not have to work for it. They need to look like they've played their guitars for hundreds of hours while the guitar to regular baths in beer, booze, sweat, and tobacco/weed smoke, even though they can barely take the time to learn to play. Never mind work up a sweat while doing it.
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Yeah for sure that's why but even if tne body is immaculate like the VOS 60 reissue, NOT Murphy labbed, the hardware looks diseased. No reason for that as a default. That should be the custom order.
 
SG John said:
The reason why they make them is for the people who want "Instant Cred.", and not have to work for it.
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The world is full of people who are full of themselves. So, yes there will be some who will buy these aged guitars for that reason alone. But I'm sure that there others, like me, that see the skilled artistry involved in these type of guitars. And to own one would be like owning a piece of art. I would not be surprised if there are some that buy these as art pieces with no intention of ever strumming them... only to proudly display them on their walls as another piece of art... Sad, but probably true!
 
syscokid said:
The world is full of people who are full of themselves. So, yes there will be some who will buy these aged guitars for that reason alone. But I'm sure that there others, like me, that see the skilled artistry involved in these type of guitars. And to own one would be like owning a piece of art. I would not be surprised if there are some that buy these as art pieces with no intention of ever strumming them... only to proudly display them on their walls as another piece of art... Sad, but probably true!
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That's the whole CC series in a nutshell.
 
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