Motley Crew question..............

Clockworkmike said:
Gotta interject here: no man, they didn't lol but I'll tread lightly so this doesn't go off the rails into a religious debate, in keeping with forum decorum

The Satanic accusations came from the album cover The Number of The Beast and of course the song of the same name. The truth of that song in particular was that it was written about a nightmare that bassist and chief song writer Steve Harris had after watching the film, Damien: The Omen 2. The lyrics are actually from the perspective of a person stumbling upon a creepy Satanic gathering, being chased by them, trying to warn others of what they saw and ultimately falling victim to their work.

As for the album cover, the image of the Devil upon a creepy, swirling black sky and what appears to be Hell basically, drew the ire of certain religious folk. Yet if you look closely, the Devil is holding a marionette of their mascot Eddie. And if you look at the Devil himself, he has marionette strings attached to him and is being controlled by a much larger Eddie. So the joke is, Eddie is bigger and badder than the Devil himself lol

Throughout their entire discography however, I can only name one other song that mentions the Devil directly and that is The Fallen Angel from 2000's Brave New World album. It's basically John Milton's Paradise Lost and from the perspective of the Devil awaiting a rematch with "The One Who Cast Him Out".

As for every other Maiden song? It's super simple: they either mostly write about films, historical events, novels or social issues.

There is a long standing joke that a listener could learn as much history and literature by just popping on an album, than reading it in a book and they may have a point: during our 11th grade English literature class, we were supposed to read Samuel Taylor Colleridge's The Rime Of The Ancient Mariner. What actually happened was I gave my buddy @froman5150 my copy of their album, Powerslave, to listen and he actually ended up passing the following test without ever actually reading the textbook lmao True story!
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Bruce and company are great story tellers.
Actually Halford I suppose wrote about some wicked stuff mostly gore, but the other stuff, well I won't mention because we already discussed that in another thread before and it became a mess. Keeping decorum is keeping the forum. Lol
 
ibmorjamn said:
Bruce and company are great story tellers.
Actually Halford I suppose wrote about some wicked stuff mostly gore, but the other stuff, well I won't mention be we already discussed that before and it became a mess. Keeping decorum is keeping the forum. Lol
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Absolutely they are! I always viewed the two as different sides of the same coin in both their vocal ranges, stage presence and lyrical writings. I think Bruce took a lot more inspiration from literature and historical events, where as Rob took inspiration from both his personal frustrations and social commentary, with touches of darker themes.

But yeah, if we begin discussing some of the other subject material, we'll probably go down into a whole other can of worms lol

On the topic of bands that one could consider as truly "in league with the dark arts" , you really won't find that in mainstream and popular metal acts but rather the Norwegian Black Metal scene and to some extent, the Florida Death Metal scene

But for my money when looking for bands that no doubt are "in league"? Look no further than the 90s Boy Band craze or K-pop. They certainly sound like and make me feel like I'm deep in the depths of Hell lmao
 
If I can butt in here, I'm a recent Motley Crue convert. Last week I was channel surfing and on AXS I saw "Motley Crue - The Final Show". I had always heard of them, but never bothered to check them out. So I started watching and was totally blown away. What caught my eye right off the bat was the guitarist. He was playing a beat to crap Strat with my beloved maple fretboard and large 70's headstock. And it sounded amazing! I have a lot more to comment on, but I must make dinner. Hungry kitties and wife must come first.
 
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Clockworkmike said:
Gotta interject here: no man, they didn't lol but I'll tread lightly so this doesn't go off the rails into a religious debate, in keeping with forum decorum

The Satanic accusations came from the album cover The Number of The Beast and of course the song of the same name. The truth of that song in particular was that it was written about a nightmare that bassist and chief song writer Steve Harris had after watching the film, Damien: The Omen 2. The lyrics are actually from the perspective of a person stumbling upon a creepy Satanic gathering, being chased by them, trying to warn others of what they saw and ultimately falling victim to their work.

As for the album cover, the image of the Devil upon a creepy, swirling black sky and what appears to be Hell basically, drew the ire of certain religious folk. Yet if you look closely, the Devil is holding a marionette of their mascot Eddie. And if you look at the Devil himself, he has marionette strings attached to him and is being controlled by a much larger Eddie. So the joke is, Eddie is bigger and badder than the Devil himself lol

Throughout their entire discography however, I can only name one other song that mentions the Devil directly and that is The Fallen Angel from 2000's Brave New World album. It's basically John Milton's Paradise Lost and from the perspective of the Devil awaiting a rematch with "The One Who Cast Him Out".

As for every other Maiden song? It's super simple: they either mostly write about films, historical events, novels or social issues.

There is a long standing joke that a listener could learn as much history and literature by just popping on an album, than reading it in a book and they may have a point: during our 11th grade English literature class, we were supposed to read Samuel Taylor Colleridge's The Rime Of The Ancient Mariner. What actually happened was I gave my buddy @froman5150 my copy of their album, Powerslave, to listen and he actually ended up passing the following test without ever actually reading the textbook lmao True story!
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Lol. I was not being argumentative, I was just answering a question here, which happened to stem from the thread title and overall satanic nature of it in general. No biggie at all from my perspective. Satan is a very passive topic and fortunately for him doesn't get caught up in religious conversations - he gets the pass, always. Not religious here but this is no doubt true.

As far as Maiden, maybe it was some of the imagery from like Bruce's album "Tyranny of Souls" which seems to cast a deeper darker satanic imagery ...and maybe a few others. I didn't mean to cast Maiden into a "Satanic" category causing brief thread interjection and a thread check point. I was just going along with the topic, again. I think my point was that they all used Satan in a passive way back then so it could be used for them in suggestion and so they could bail away from him upon suggested tying's to him. It was all very dismissive back then where people could have a satanic album cover and say they are revealing it in a metaphoric pro-God format. It was actually funny at the time these things worked they were such BS.

I remember I got Shout at the Devil and my mom thought it was Ok because they reminded her of Kiss, which she was already used to. This is sort of an example of this.

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Sapient said:
Lol. I was not being argumentative, I was just answering a question here, which happened to stem from the thread title and overall satanic nature of it in general. No biggie at all from my perspective. Satan is a very passive topic and fortunately for him doesn't get caught up in religious conversations - he gets the pass, always. Not religious here but this is no doubt true.

As far as Maiden, maybe it was some of the imagery from like Bruce's album "Tyranny of Souls" which seems to cast a deeper darker satanic imagery ...and maybe a few others. I didn't mean to cast Maiden into a "Satanic" category causing brief thread interjection and a thread check point. I was just going along with the topic, again. I think my point was that they all used Satan in a passive way back then so it could be used for them in suggestion and so they could bail away from him upon suggested tying's to him. It was all very dismissive back then where people could have a satanic album cover and say they are revealing it in a metaphoric pro-God format. It was actually funny at the time these things worked they were such BS.

I remember I got Shout at the Devil and my mom thought it was Ok because they reminded her of Kiss, which she was already used to. This is sort of an example of this.

brucetyrannyartwork.jpg
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That album Tyranny of Souls by Bruce does have some dark songs on it. The cover art is wild.
 
TVvoodoo said:
Anyone else here had your mom come back from bible study and go through your records looking for satanic imagery and all that? OMG what a day that was for me.
I somehow managed to present a logical argument to keep them, but about 30% of my music cache was in Clear and Present danger of confiscation
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I was lucky in that my mom was not even aware of how "assumed " dangerous the music was. Late 60's early 70's was way before PMRC. Or what ever they called burning Ozzy records. Lol
 
I remember discovering AC/DC at a really young age and hearing my older sister say " Oh no! You know that means Antichrist/Devils Child?!?" I thought that just sounded stupid ( and it was!), especially considering it was my dad's albums I was hearing. Few years later, I dug thru his stash and discovered Black Sabbath, again from her as well as a LOT of other people around me; I heard about how they were devout worshippers of the Devil himself. Another incredibly stupid comment.

But I've heard this crap my whole life. KISS was Knights In Satan's Service. That Zeppelin hid evil backwards messages in Stairway To Heaven, as did Judas Priest and even Styx. That the cover of Rush's 2112 was purely evil. So on and so on and so on. It was just knee jerk reactions from people looking for something that wasn't there but swore they found it.

The movie Little Nicky hit the nail on the head: people like Ozzy came straight in their messages. But you'd probably find true evil in unlikely sources, like Chicago for example lmao


Relax, it's a joke lol
 
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