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Robert Herndon said:
Let me say this. When I build a 24.75" scale Strat-esque guitar, it sounds like a Gibson.

When I put Gibson 57 Classics in a 25.5" scale Strat-esque guitar, it sounds like a Fender.
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Are you teasing me Robert? I think it's all in your mind. Maybe you are imaging things...it's all what you hear! Guitar pickups make the quacky sound...the pickups do. Sorry Robert but you are wrong on this situation. Pickups make the quackiness. Period!


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BlackSG91 said:
Are you teasing me Robert? I think it's all in your mind. Maybe you are imaging things...it's all what you hear! Guitar pickups make the quacky sound...the pickups do. Sorry Robert but you are wrong on this situation. Pickups make the quackiness. Period!


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Amongst studio musician's, the scale length anomaly, and its influence on tone, is widely known.

Here is a Stewie-Mac article:

HOW SCALE LENGTH AFFECTS TONE

Fender
One of the most common scale lengths is the Fender 25-1/2" guitar scale. Found on Stratocasters®, Telecasters®, and the huge variety of instruments inspired by them as well as the replacement, and custom parts available for them.

The 25-1/2" produces a rich, strong, bell-like tone, and defined low-end.

Gibson
The Gibson 24-3/4" scale is also very common, but it is also the most confusing of all scale lengths—this is because it rarely ever measures out to be 24-3/4 inches! This scale has gradually changed over the past fifty or so years due to changes in production equipment.

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Being shorter than the Fender 25-1/2" scale, the Gibson 24-3/4" scale has a lower tension/easier to play feel, and a warmer tone.
 
Robert Herndon said:
Amongst studio musician's, the scale length anomaly, and its influence on tone, is widely known.

Here is a Stewie-Mac article:

HOW SCALE LENGTH AFFECTS TONE

Fender
One of the most common scale lengths is the Fender 25-1/2" guitar scale. Found on Stratocasters®, Telecasters®, and the huge variety of instruments inspired by them as well as the replacement, and custom parts available for them.

The 25-1/2" produces a rich, strong, bell-like tone, and defined low-end.

Gibson
The Gibson 24-3/4" scale is also very common, but it is also the most confusing of all scale lengths—this is because it rarely ever measures out to be 24-3/4 inches! This scale has gradually changed over the past fifty or so years due to changes in production equipment.

gibson_timeline.gif


Being shorter than the Fender 25-1/2" scale, the Gibson 24-3/4" scale has a lower tension/easier to play feel, and a warmer tone.
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I still that scale lenght has nothimg with if. If you're guitar sounds Quaky than it is. It depends on setups! Whatever lenght here is no quackiness PERIOD!!!



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I suspect a lot of how Robert hears things can be very similar to something like car engine/exhaust sounds I can hear and tell as far away as ears can hear without seeing. I bet a good number of us old timers know what I am talking about.

1. 1960-1980's VW Beetle
2. 5.0 Mustang
3. V8 Chevy
4. Any US Mail Jeep, I know the mailman is coming 5 minutes before he gets here.

The combination of woods, pups, neck (scale lengths) head styles (single row no angle straight string pull, vs 3x3 sharp angle, strings splayed to offset machines, and even type of bridge can all color the overall tone of a guitar.

To me, I will toss aside the Gibson geometry,,,,,, and simply pose the difference between 2 Fenders such as a Strat vs Tele. As similar features are contained within, certain differences make significant difference in sounds. To me, the Ashtray bridge and pickup spacing etc all add up to it being ice picky, and even quackier than the Strats, Robert wrestles with.

I have never played other Fenders like Broadcasters etc, so no clue of their properties. Another curiosity I have is what do reverse neck Strats sound like vs Standard direction ones?

I will leave it at that,,,,,,,,,,,,, Robert hears Nuances, I do to, but not as in tune or able to explain the factors that cause them as he might be.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
I suspect a lot of how Robert hears things can be very similar to something like car engine/exhaust sounds I can hear and tell as far away as ears can hear without seeing. I bet a good number of us old timers know what I am talking about.

1. 1960-1980's VW Beetle
2. 5.0 Mustang
3. V8 Chevy
4. Any US Mail Jeep, I know the mailman is coming 5 minutes before he gets here.

The combination of woods, pups, neck (scale lengths) head styles (single row no angle straight string pull, vs 3x3 sharp angle, strings splayed to offset machines, and even type of bridge can all color the overall tone of a guitar.

To me, I will toss aside the Gibson geometry,,,,,, and simply pose the difference between 2 Fenders such as a Strat vs Tele. As similar features are contained within, certain differences make significant difference in sounds. To me, the Ashtray bridge and pickup spacing etc all add up to it being ice picky, and even quackier than the Strats, Robert wrestles with.

I have never played other Fenders like Broadcasters etc, so no clue of their properties. Another curiosity I have is what do reverse neck Strats sound like vs Standard direction ones?

I will leave it at that,,,,,,,,,,,,, Robert hears Nuances, I do to, but not as in tune or able to explain the factors that cause them as he might be.
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Good point - Don't forget Mercedes-Benz 5 Cylinder Diesel Engine...
 
HAHA Robert, Mercedes is too high priced a car for me to even let my ears listen to one.
SO does not even remember hearing one.

But I do have a 3 cylinder Diesel New Holland Skid steer
 
Good video Robert. I've heard nothing but good reviews on Cort guitars. I have a friend who owns a Cort bass guitar made in England. It's a real nice one too.


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