Master of Puppet cover on piano

Ramo said:
wake up! I didnt say she didnt have talent...... I said it sounds better and heavier on guitar. Hit the note on clean and then and on distorted dose it sound same to you?
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If it's conducted like this on an instrument it was never imagined for and yet played absolutely to perfection? Yeah, it sounds better to me than watching a million other bedroom guitarists trying to cover just one part of it. It's exciting and technically magnificent, to whoever could do something like that
 
Clockworkmike said:
If it's conducted like this on an instrument it was never imagined for and yet played absolutely to perfection? Yeah, it sounds better to me than watching a million other bedroom guitarists trying to cover just one part of it. It's exciting and technically magnificent, to whoever could do something like that
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ok
 
I’m curious. Would we be having this discussion if say a rock band took Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition”…. Originally written for and performed by a full orchestra….. and not only played it using synthesizers, guitars and drums…. But Added lyrics where lyrics weren’t before…. Would we be questioning that?

Oh wait. ELP did that and it’s awesome!!
 
iblive said:
I’m curious. Would we be having this discussion if say a rock band took Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition”…. Originally written for and performed by a full orchestra….. and not only played it using synthesizers, guitars and drums…. But Added lyrics where lyrics weren’t before…. Would we be questioning that?

Oh wait. ELP did that and it’s awesome!!
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Yep!
 
Clockworkmike said:
Heaviness isn't in just a guitar or how distorted it can be. It's in the notes you play, the emotion and the attitude...
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Agreed. "Heavy" to me, mostly refers to subject matter or inspirational events or any other number of things.

Distortion and speed have nothing to do with "Heavy"

Liszt was heavy, and electric guitar didn't even exist.

See how ghey even Metallica sounds with speed and distortion but all in a major key....

 
Ever heard of tritones?

"Diabolus en musica" (no, not the Slayer album, the term)

These things existed long before electric guitar and made music "heavy" so much so, that the use of tritones was actually banned for some time. It was said that these were the devil's notes used to make the devil's music...

Sounds a bit familiar, actually lol

My point is that when these peices were composed, I would be willing to bet a dollar that the inspiration for these was something that, at the time, was "weighing on their heart" so to speak.....key word being "weight" and by extension, "heavy" as well.

Your guitar is literally made of wood.

Why don't we just call it "wooden metal"?
 
mcblink said:
Agreed. "Heavy" to me, mostly refers to subject matter or inspirational events or any other number of things.

Distortion and speed have nothing to do with "Heavy"

Liszt was heavy, and electric guitar didn't even exist.

See how ghey even Metallica sounds with speed and distortion but all in a major key....

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Agree completely, especially with Franz Liszt! Guys like him and Richard Wagner pretty much laid the foundation for what "heavy" would be defined today as. They brought out the heavy strings sections with deep roaring double and even octobasses, loud timpani drums and chilling brass horns. But most importantly, they were using the Tritone ( Diminished 5th) aka " Diabolus En Musica" that was literally believed to send you straight to Hell if you played such an "evil" pattern. The Tritone goes on today in metal left and right, especially originating from Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath".

And Major keyed Sanitarium ( Welcome Home) sounds so pleasant lmao
 
mcblink said:
Ever heard of tritones?

"Diabolus en musica" (no, not the Slayer album, the term)

These things existed long before electric guitar and made music "heavy" so much so, that the use of tritones was actually banned for some time. It was said that these were the devil's notes used to make the devil's music...
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I used to think the same thing.

Turns out that's more of a musical myth.

Adam Neely covers the history of it quite thoroughly:

(Warning: This video goes deep into musical theory!)

 
smitty_p said:
I used to think the same thing.

Turns out that's more of a musical myth.

Adam Neely covers the history of it quite thoroughly:

(Warning: This video goes deep into musical theory!)

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I still kinda like the myth and legend of it though lol it gives it a cool mystique. Kinda sucks it ISNT true but, if we can still believe Richard Gere had an gastrointestinal incident with a Gerbil, can we not keep this too? Lmao
 
Clockworkmike said:
Agree completely, especially with Franz Liszt! Guys like him and Richard Wagner pretty much laid the foundation for what "heavy" would be defined today as. They brought out the heavy strings sections with deep roaring double and even octobasses, loud timpani drums and chilling brass horns. But most importantly, they were using the Tritone ( Diminished 5th) aka " Diabolus En Musica" that was literally believed to send you straight to Hell if you played such an "evil" pattern. The Tritone goes on today in metal left and right, especially originating from Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath".

And Major keyed Sanitarium ( Welcome Home) sounds so pleasant lmao
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Clockworkmike said:
Hahah as I was typing this out I see you beat me to it @mcblink !
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you 2 should get a room together.
 
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smitty_p said:
I used to think the same thing.

Turns out that's more of a musical myth.

Adam Neely covers the history of it quite thoroughly:

(Warning: This video goes deep into musical theory!)

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That's really interesting! I do seem to remember having heard something of the sort before but haven't seen a really in depth look at it like that before, I haven't watched it yet but I will.

My point was that it's not the distortion or the speed or even the instrument that makes something "heavy"...

Now, if we're talking "metal", then it makes a bit more sense, but there's a lot of "metal" out there that isn't "heavy" at all....
 
In regards to the OP:

Yeah that was great! She is certainly very talented and she is nice to look at and the video was entertaining and everything, super talented!

However, I don't think that will go on repeat in my playlist anytime soon lol

Cool to watch though, as a musician who uses his fingers all the time I have a deep appreciation for hotshot pianists, totally crazy different type of hand/finger (and even feet at times) coordination.
 
mcblink said:
That's really interesting! I do seem to remember having heard something of the sort before but haven't seen a really in depth look at it like that before, I haven't watched it yet but I will.
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Yeah. I like Adam Neely's channel. He covers things very well and provides a lot of very good research.

I'm a bit of a theory geek, so I like to watch his other material, too.
 
iblive said:
I’m curious. Would we be having this discussion if say a rock band took Mussorgsky’s “Pictures At An Exhibition”…. Originally written for and performed by a full orchestra….. and not only played it using synthesizers, guitars and drums…. But Added lyrics where lyrics weren’t before…. Would we be questioning that?

Oh wait. ELP did that and it’s awesome!!
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I've seen Deep Purple a few times doing wild versions of Beethoven's 9th and Ode to Joy.


 
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