Cadorman
Ambassador of the Catocaster
When my cousin moves back to Benicia I'll come visit and make the road trip south.
Marshall Origin 50C?
- Thread starter Kerry Brown
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well.................Im not a "pedal guy " ----
you know being a bass player and all lol .....................
the Hartke doesnt even have an "effects loop"
Now Im gonna have to flip something else and KEEP the damn Origin 20h ......... ugh ..... thanks Robert now I have a dilemma !!!
And, not all guitar amps have an effects loop, either.
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Kerry Brown
Ambassador of the Great Northern Bar Jams
That is exactly what I’m looking for.
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
Power amp distortion was the original, in the beginning preamps were always clean.
Then suddenly an idea of preamp distortion, due to the power amp being much mucho too loud.
Marshall invented that preamp concept to get a better sound at a lower loudness.
Some people are always going to be clean preamp / power amp distortion.
But it's very loud.
Of course there is ways to control the loudness at the speaker...
But that is the Plexi sound which was built for stadiums.
To me, what came afterwords (DSL, JCM 800) was an imitation of the original sound at a lower loudness.
Well Adrian used a LOWER case “o”, not a brand.And I will post the smirky comment (that’s not an Orange)
I could never again live without a loop. It allows me so much flexibility.
steveb63
Ambassador of the Capacitor
What's up cuz? lol.
Bad pic, not as faded as it appears.
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
Let me tell you all a story 'bout the PEACHer and the nun.
He got into the habit.
It does look peachy keen !
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
Volume controls are a waste of space, and they spoil the tone.
The more parts you take out, the better it sounds.
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
I thought you were gonna say the rum and coke drove you home from the show
must have mis read.
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Kerry Brown
Ambassador of the Great Northern Bar Jams
Still haven’t heard back. I may go a different route. I record through a Focusrite 2i2. Last night I went from the Focusrite line out to the loop return on my Quilter amp. I thought there might be latency problems but it worked perfectly. I can pretty much simulate any amp I want on the laptop and use the Quilter as a very clean power amp. I’ll have to play with this setup. I was using the Focusrite in stereo mode with a two into one jack to the Quilter. Later I looked in the Quilter manual and realized it has a mono mode which may work better. It looks like the mono mode may be a direct out from the input bypassing the computer so it may not work. I need to experiment.
Totally understand.
Y’know…Robert…it’s been interesting to watch your development over the years.
I remember when you didn’t want to use any pedals and never put anything in the FX loop!
But, things change, no?
Indeed they do...
For years, I just played with what I knew (ignorance) and that was based on my early experiences, so a guitar into a JTM30 was the amp du jour, so to speak. I was intimidated by anything I didn't understand or have direct experience with, so i didn't venture far from a setup like that. Also, earning a living in a live bar band, really didn't require much more than that.
After I joined the Musician's Union and started working full time in the commercial sense, I started to gain greater exposure to engineers and artists who were doing things that I'd never seen done before, so i paid attention and began to apply what I learned to my own personal rig. I also learned from things I saw posted here.
Working (performing) 4-5 nights a week didn't give me much time to really make changes to my sound because I had zero down time and the rig was always in use. At one point, I rented out Primo Rehearsal Studios in Riverside - for an entire day - just to work out my board and the order of the signal chain.
This was an entire day off work from my studio/session job, but it was necessary to work this out and do so at full stage volume.
Since then, I haven't really made any changes, although I am planning to do the Headfirst Modifications, based on the tonal quality and the fact that with an extra gain stage, I can probably stop using the TS-9, but other than that, I have no major changes planned.
The biggest lesson I learned was all the subtlties you hear at home will NEVER be heard live and to chase them - and throw money at the pursuit of them - is an absolute waste of time and resources. Any humbucker guitar with decent frets and reasonable action will work and almost every humbucker guitar I play through my rig sounds identical, so that realization saved me a lot of money and time.
I'm really a Neanderthal...
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Kerry Brown
Ambassador of the Great Northern Bar Jams
It took me years to learn this. Playing live in a bar band chasing tone is a waste of time and money. For recording tone is king. For live use find a frequency range no one else is using and go for it.
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Kerry Brown
Ambassador of the Great Northern Bar Jams
I experimented some more with using the line out from the Focusrite this morning. The best sound was setting it to mono then using a balanced 1/4” cable to my mixer. It sounded better with the balanced cable. The Quilter loop return is an unbalanced input. It doesn't make that much difference but I could hear it.
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Such a pleasure to read your response!!!
Live, I use my YelloStrat because it's like a jackhammer, lightweight, a super wide neck and easy to play, with a bulletproof tremolo.
In the studio, I use my Schecter because it's more precise...and the coil splitting gives me more versatility, but in a live mix, I can get by on my Daughter's $149.00 Squire and you can't tell a difference between it and my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute....ask @Mitch Pearrow SJMP
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