Marshall JTM30 1x12 - Need Advice

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A friend of mine recently bought a Marshall JTM30 1x12 at a yard sale. He plans to resell it. He knows nothing about guitars or amps so he asked me to check it out.

It's kind of in rough shape. I've posted pictures below. I can post more if necessary.

After testing it quite a bit yesterday, here's what I found:

Items that work or are in good order

1. Channel footswitch jack and channel push-button.
2. Clean Volume
3. Boost Gain
4. Boost Volume
5. Bass Control
6. Effects Loop
7. Master Volume.
8. Speaker Output

Here are the faults with the amp:

1. Half of the split shaft for the mid control is broken. The pot will need to be replaced.
2. The entire shaft of the treble control is broken off. This pot will need to be replaced, too.
3. The speaker wire will need to be re-terminated into a new plug. It was poorly terminated by the previous owner.
4. Four attachment bolts used to attach the amp chassis to the cabinet are missing from the top of the amplifier.
5. The feet are missing.
6. Missing one control knob. There was a baggie in the cabinet with a knob to one of the broken pots.

Here are the two big issues:

7. The reverb does not work at all.
8. The boost channel cuts out and just stops working as you move the master volume up to about 2:00. Even then, it doesn't get really loud. I don't believe its the pot, because when I get the amp to that point, I can switch to the clean channel and it's fine. If I switch back to the boost channel, it's dead. Also, as you play through the amp, there is an odd crackling on the boost channel that isn't there with the clean channel.

Honestly, as it sits now, my little Marshall DSL-5C is louder than this.

At this point, I'm not looking for troubleshooting advice. That may come later.

I'm looking for advice on the following three questions:

1. I have considered buying this amp from him, myself. Is this a smart move?
2. I am not at all worried about faults 1 - 6 above. I can fix those. I could even live without the reverb as I could use a reverb pedal in the loop. But item number 8 is a show-stopper if it cannot be reasonably repaired. Is this amp worth the effort and expense to fix?
3. If I were to buy it, what is a fair price to offer in its current condition?

Here are the Pics...

Amp Front:

27554


Amp Top:

27555


Back Plane:


27556


Speaker:

27557
 
Smitty...

Take off a knob and take a photo. I have new Marshall knobs I bought for my JTM-30 and never used.

I have a new speaker cable you can have...

Thanks.

If I do go for this, I may take you up on the knob. I can fix the cable, though.

Right now, I'm really wanting to know if it's smart to get this amp, given all that's wrong with it - particularly with the boost channel - and what a decent offer would be.
 
Thanks.

If I do go for this, I may take you up on the knob. I can fix the cable, though.

Right now, I'm really wanting to know if it's smart to get this amp, given all that's wrong with it - particularly with the boost channel - and what a decent offer would be.

I'd say pass. These amps are notorious for overheating and failing (the problem is the power tubes are mounted horizontally - terrible idea), and in this condition I don't think worth the money to set right just to have the thing cook itself on you later on.
 
I'd say pass. These amps are notorious for overheating and failing (the problem is the power tubes are mounted horizontally - terrible idea), and in this condition I don't think worth the money to set right just to have the thing cook itself on you later on.

I've also read today that these amps get a lot of their distortion in the boost channel from clipping diodes...like a distortion pedal...and that makes the "boost" channel actually quieter than the clean channel.

Have you (or anyone else) heard anything like that?
 
I've also read today that these amps get a lot of their distortion in the boost channel from clipping diodes...like a distortion pedal...and that makes the "boost" channel actually quieter than the clean channel.

Have you (or anyone else) heard anything like that?

Most modern Marshalls use clipping diodes, and they don't have that problem. I actually used to own the head version of this amp and never had an issue like that, pretty sure the amp itself is identical to what I had.

It was a good sounding amp when it was new but ran super-hot and went through tubes very quickly. I sold it off when I found out a lot of them were failing from thermal issues.
 
Thanks.

If I do go for this, I may take you up on the knob. I can fix the cable, though.

Right now, I'm really wanting to know if it's smart to get this amp, given all that's wrong with it - particularly with the boost channel - and what a decent offer would be.

I got a brand new Geuine Marshall cable...no junk.
 
I'd say pass. These amps are notorious for overheating and failing (the problem is the power tubes are mounted horizontally - terrible idea), and in this condition I don't think worth the money to set right just to have the thing cook itself on you later on.

Yeah, I've decided to let it go. I don't need an amp that doesn't work right sitting in my closet, especially since I don't know how much time or money it would take to fix it.

If it was something really sought-after or desirable, I might do it. But, the thermal issues kind of argue against that.

I'm going to give him a list of everything I see wrong with it and let him take it from there.
 
Yeah, I've decided to let it go. I don't need an amp that doesn't work right sitting in my closet, especially since I don't know how much time or money it would take to fix it.

If it was something really sought after, I might do it. But, the thermal issues kind of argue against that.

I'm going to give him a list of everything I see wrong with it and let him take it from there.
Good call sir!
 
I used one for years. They did run hot and we always had a fan. lowing on it. Tube life was short, but it had a glorious tone let me tell you!!!

Yeah man, I bought mine for the great tone but was afraid of it going supernova on me so sold it and replaced it with a Rivera M-60, which maybe didn't sound as good but was a lot louder and built like an island fortress.
 
I used one for years. They did run hot and we always had a fan. lowing on it. Tube life was short, but it had a glorious tone let me tell you!!!

So, I've heard. I was interested in it for the tone value, but I don't really know how long it would sit before I had it working right, not to mention the expense.

Then, I'd have to rig up some cooling fan arrangement.

I've got too much going on with home projects to dive into this.

Again, if it was something different, I may have still gone ahead and made an offer for it. But, under the circumstances, and considering its systemic issues, I think this is best.

By the way...

I really do appreciate everyone's input!
 
So, I've heard. I was interested in it for the tone value, but I don't really know how long it would sit before I had it working right, not to mention the expense.

Then, I'd have to rig up some cooling fan arrangement.

I've got too much going on with home projects to dive into this.

Again, if it was something different, I may have still gone ahead and made an offer for it. But, under the circumstances, and considering its systemic issues, I think this is best.

By the way...

I really do appreciate everyone's input!

I've grown to love DSL40C's so much I got a #2....
 
So, I've heard. I was interested in it for the tone value, but I don't really know how long it would sit before I had it working right, not to mention the expense.

Then, I'd have to rig up some cooling fan arrangement.

I've got too much going on with home projects to dive into this.

Again, if it was something different, I may have still gone ahead and made an offer for it. But, under the circumstances, and considering its systemic issues, I think this is best.

By the way...

I really do appreciate everyone's input!

Smart move. The damage to the circuit boards may have already been done if was run hot and not ventilated. May even be the cause of the discrepancy between the channel volumes.
 
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