LED ZEPPELIN SICKS!

Some say they should have had a live bassist, some say the band needed the freedom.


WELL you know those BASS players---always bringing you DOWN.......
 
Excuse me but if you are playing in arenas, playing "decently" kinda doesn't cut it for me.


2- All the overdubs were not there. The other 3 or 4 guitars on the
records were missing. No "live" arrangement of the song. They just
left them out. Essential parts of the music were missing.

3- He was constantly hitting bad chords and clunkers and would not
even try to cover for himself. If he hit an E chord instead of an F he
would just let it ring instead of sliding into the correct chord.

4- The most unforgivable of all, his guitar was badly out of tune and
it did not matter to him at all.

I just listened to the actual bootleg of the night I saw them.

Page was better than what you say - he covered more of the extra guitar parts ( like the harmony on "Black Dog"), the solos were good, etc. Even the tone was pretty good.

HOWEVER>>>>>>>>>

"Plant could not hit ANY of the notes. It was not that he was a little
flat or sharp. He was missing the high stuff by at least a tone and a half."

Plant was disappointing...to say the least. He was able to hit many of the high parts, but overall he would not be able to pass the audition for a "Led Zep" tribute band.

Let's say it was a smart move for him to drastically change his style and do what he does with Allison Krauss.

Overall, the band was indeed better in my memory than the actual event, and it was Plant, not Page.

Tony gets the win, by a slim margin, here.

The tapes never lie when you are trying to remember who played well or not.

It was still a great night - some fine interplay with Page and Jones/Bonham, too
 
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However the parties can be epic!
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Her I would like to crash INTO.....again and again---

Man its too early for this level of pre-version ---- must be Christmas eve or something
 
Thing is, you can't expect live shows to be exactly like the records.

Especially when the band in question has such difficult vocals...

Every musician has good and bad concerts... Anyway, I've always said that if there's one thing I don't seek in bands I like, it's perfection. I like babds to be human
 
Copyright infringement aside, which was a huge issue before it was litigated, and remains a stunning example of bad form, LZs recordings are sometimes the most impressive iterations of English Blues ever recorded.

As well-known as they are to the public, they also serve as a sort of touchstone in the same way that players like Clapton did a generation or two ago.

SIBLY and their version of You Shook Me are featured in my sets for that reason. The crowd loves it, and the sum effect is to build a correspondence in their minds between what they know, and what they don't.
 
As for their live work, I think the criticism is valid. I only saw them once during their heyday, when I was a small child. I don't remember it, but am told that's because I fell asleep on a PA stack...

I didn't really like their recordings as a teenager, mostly due to Plant. Later, in my early 20s, I "got it", and proceeded to become increasingly intimidated by their records, to the point of despair.

Then, I happened to meet a serious LZ fanatic, who had assembled an extensive collection of bootlegs on 1/4".

It was a revelation, to say the least. Bonham and JPJ were pretty much as good live as they were in the studio, but Plant and Page were wildly inconsistent, often out of tune and off-key and just plain sloppy.

Anyways, after studying those bootlegs for months, my confidence in my own playing was not only restored, but I was genuinely relieved by what I had heard, and I still remember the experience as a turning point in my life.

All that said, on occasion, they sometimes pulled off the most incredible things onstage!
 
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