Just some quick amp flavors

Headache said:
Trying to decide which amp my new Hamer likes the best. Through this quick vid together.


Your thoughts?
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The Mode Four had the fullest, thickest sound in my opinion. Im admittedly biased in this assessment so probably disqualified lmao the Peavey sounded good too for its size though.

The Joyo and TSL sounded great too but the Joyo seemed like it lacked some of the mids while the TSL had mids for days but not enough bottom on this particular guitar.
 
Headache said:
Trying to decide which amp my new Hamer likes the best. Through this quick vid together.


Your thoughts?
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Mode four is a good metal amp, although it's a bit fragile and needs some very careful handling.
Good overdrive, built in effects.

Peavey is OK...the speakers lack. Sounds a bit thin compared to others but usable. PV is well supported for parts and service.

Joyo is a joke. Don't even bother, Joyo it's a toy-o. :pound-hand:
I wouldn't categorize Joyo as a professional amp.
This Joyo is a Dumble Clone...:pound-hand:
This Joyo is a Plexi ! :pound-hand::pound-hand:
This Joyo is a JCM 900 ! :pound-hand:
Please stop it. Enough is enough.

TSL is a good sounding amp but the design causes it to self destruct.
Lots of maintenance issues that you really don't need.
TSL DSL 50 and 100 will soon become extinct because of these design problems.

The Big ones to look for are:
Fender EVH III -a great amp all around. One of the best newer amps.
Marshalls newer models.
I would avoid anything made in China...except maybe Orange.
Boogie = high maintenance lots of time in the shop. Fine if you have lots of money and time.

I would probably go for EVH III. Fender has the best support for parts and service.
 
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Amp Mad Scientist said:
Mode four is a good metal amp, although it's a bit fragile and needs some very careful handling.
Good overdrive, built in effects.

Peavey is OK...the speakers lack. Sounds a bit thin compared to others but usable. PV is well supported for parts and service.

Joyo is a joke. Don't even bother, Joyo it's a toy-o. :pound-hand:
I wouldn't categorize Joyo as a professional amp.
This Joyo is a Dumble Clone...:pound-hand:
This Joyo is a Plexi ! :pound-hand::pound-hand:
This Joyo is a JCM 900 ! :pound-hand:
Please stop it. Enough is enough.

TSL is a good sounding amp but the design causes it to self destruct.
Lots of maintenance issues that you really don't need.
TSL DSL 50 and 100 will soon become extinct because of these design problems.

The Big ones to look for are:
Fender EVH III -a great amp all around. One of the best newer amps.
Marshalls newer models.
I would avoid anything made in China...except maybe Orange.
Boogie = high maintenance lots of time in the shop. Fine if you have lots of money and time.

I would probably go for EVH III. Fender has the best support for parts and service.
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My TSL has been a faithful companion since 2004. Not all of them will do this.
Once one already owns said amp, it is a matter of what it sounds like, not potential design flaws.
I thought the lil Joyo held it's own respectably considering!!
Plus in Canada, for me, Peavey is a total joke for parts and service. Absolutely impossible.
The question is, tonally, which one do you like best?
 
Jethro Rocker said:
My TSL has been a faithful companion since 2004. Not all of them will do this.
Once one already owns said amp, it is a matter of what it sounds like, not potential design flaws.
I thought the lil Joyo held it's own respectably considering!!
Plus in Canada, for me, Peavey is a total joke for parts and service. Absolutely impossible.
The question is, tonally, which one do you like best?
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I admittedly never played a TSL, but being in the same family of the JCM2000 series, I cant see where they would serve any less than the DSLs as far as sound goes. And though there's plenty of people who dislike the JCM2000 DSLs, in my opinion they are one of the most versatile, best sounding amps there is.

I would expect no different in the TSLs as they are essentially the same amp, just more separately channeled
 
Clockworkmike said:
I admittedly never played a TSL, but being in the same family of the JCM2000 series, I cant see where they would serve any less than the DSLs as far as sound goes. And though there's plenty of people who dislike the JCM2000 DSLs, in my opinion they are one of the most versatile, best sounding amps there is.

I would expect no different in the TSLs as they are essentially the same amp, just more separately channeled
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Exactly. Meaning the Crunch channel is more akin to OD 1 on DSL but less gainy and fizzy sounding. A superior amp IMO in every way. I had a DSL for a few years too. They are not sonically the same.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Exactly. Meaning the Crunch channel is more akin to OD 1 on DSL but less gainy and fizzy sounding. A superior amp IMO in every way. I had a DSL for a few years too. They are not sonically the same.
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No kidding? What would be the differences in sound in your opinion?
 
Clockworkmike said:
No kidding? What would be the differences in sound in your opinion?
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As I say, less fizzy sorta. Seems more old school but modern still to me in Crunch channel 2 as per the video.
I found the DSL OD1 ok but was a bit compressed and fizzy maybe compared to the TSL.
Given TSL has 3 channels with separate set of controls but no modes, the channels will sound different. Put an OD up front for more level and drop gain a bit. Makes the TSL a killer metal amp. Shucks I wanna go play mine now!!
I thought it was his turn to be used at the big annual tent show this June but technically the JVM turn or try the JMD this year.
Depending how much I bring the TSL might still get dibs.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
Mode four is a good metal amp, although it's a bit fragile and needs some very careful handling.
Good overdrive, built in effects.

Peavey is OK...the speakers lack. Sounds a bit thin compared to others but usable. PV is well supported for parts and service.

Joyo is a joke. Don't even bother, Joyo it's a toy-o. :pound-hand:
I wouldn't categorize Joyo as a professional amp.
This Joyo is a Dumble Clone...:pound-hand:
This Joyo is a Plexi ! :pound-hand::pound-hand:
This Joyo is a JCM 900 ! :pound-hand:
Please stop it. Enough is enough.

TSL is a good sounding amp but the design causes it to self destruct.
Lots of maintenance issues that you really don't need.
TSL DSL 50 and 100 will soon become extinct because of these design problems.

The Big ones to look for are:
Fender EVH III -a great amp all around. One of the best newer amps.
Marshalls newer models.
I would avoid anything made in China...except maybe Orange.
Boogie = high maintenance lots of time in the shop. Fine if you have lots of money and time.

I would probably go for EVH III. Fender has the best support for parts and service.
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Take a look at the new EVH Iconic , that amp blew me away playing it just a few minutes 40w combo. What a deal !
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Exactly. Meaning the Crunch channel is more akin to OD 1 on DSL but less gainy and fizzy sounding. A superior amp IMO in every way. I had a DSL for a few years too. They are not sonically the same.
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Agreed. I've owned 3 DSLs. They are very different sounding beasts. More gain, loud as fu@k, buzzsaw type tones. They do that sound very well. The TSL has a rather warm tone in comparison. Also more versatile tones.
IMHO of course.

I know the early models suffered from some bias drift, but my TSL was made after the revision, and has been rocking without a single issue since it was made. Effortless great tone.
 
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I suppose I should have given more specific details in this quick vid.
I used a cabinet with a 57 mic.

I ran a Seymour Duncan 805 and an ISP decimator noise gate in front.

The MF350 was set on the 1st amp (left side) crunch.. I rarely use the right two channels.

The TSL was at very low volume and on the orange channel. Vpr off.

The Peavey I have found lacks a bit of low end thump, so the resonance knob is maxed, which makes it sound just about right. IMHO it is a one trick pony that does what it's designed to do extremely well. If I am striving for a modern metal or death metal type tone, I pick that one every time

The TSL generally sounds the best (of these 4) with std tuned guitars. Also with passive pickups.
It's got a harmonically rich flavor and a smoothness that just sounds "right" in my ears. It feeds back with precision. My own favorite recorded tones have been with this amp.

The Mode Four sounds better and better with low tuned C and B guitars. It also is more affected by my noise gate. It also sounds better with active pickups IMHO. But it trump's all for stage use because it has a solo button right there on the switch!

And I don't care what anyone says, this little Joyo sounds friggin awesome for only being $119!
 
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Headache said:
I suppose I should have given more specific details in this quick vid.

I ran a Seymour Duncan 805 and an ISP decimator noise gate in front.

The MF350 was set on the 1st amp (left side) crunch.. I rarely use the right two channels.

The TSL was at very low volume and on the orange channel. Vpr off.

The Peavey I have found lacks a bit of low end thump, so the resonance knob is maxed, which makes it sound just about right. IMHO it is a one trick pony that does what it's designed to do extremely well. If I am striving for a modern metal or death metal type tone, I pick that one every time

The TSL generally sounds the best (of these 4) with std tuned guitars. Also with passive pickups.
It's got a harmonically rich flavor and a smoothness that just sounds "right" in my ears. It feeds back with precision. My own favorite recorded tones have been with this amp.

The Mode Four sounds better and better with low tuned C and B guitars. It also is more affected by my noise gate. It also sounds better with active pickups IMHO. But it trump's all for stage use because it has a solo button right there on the switch!

And I don't care what anyone says, this little Joyo sounds friggin awesome for only being $119!
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I think the Joyo is awesome for what it is and its size. You literally have a 3 knob lunchbox amp that can break down walls.

The Mode Four is an amp I used damn near exclusively for probably 10 years straight and its insane how much ground it can cover. The Channel 2 is probably the most favored section by most people, getting a hot rodded JCM800 sound and its the one I lean towards myself. But a lot can be said of Channel 1 being so clean but also a great old Plexi crunch sound if you push it.

The 3rd and 4th Channels get a LOT of hate and I can see it if its dialed wrong. Truthfully? i skip the 3rd a lot BUT the 4th can be a downright nasty monster if you make the right adjustments. Biggest issue, is that section is naturally scooped bad for detuned metal, but, if you dial the Tone Matrix to 3, click the scoop button off, dime the treble, roll off the bass and resonance to about 3 o'clock and push the mids to at least 12 o'clock or higher; it cleans up a A LOT of that mud and becomes a heavier version of the Channel 2
 
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