Is it just me?

smitty_p said:
I would say they are totally human and not really much different from you or me.

If you read the history of some of these great players, you’ll see they got to where they are by the same thing required of anyone: lots and lots of practice. They often started very young, when the mind is most pliable and able to learn, and practiced for hours and hours out of the day.

So, to look at them now, after they’ve come on the scene, they look other-worldly. But, taking everything in context, things are clearer and less “alien”.
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I’ll add, I do believe everyone is different and people have different innate aptitudes and strengths that others may not have.

I’m not trying to say that anyone can do anything that someone else does.

My only point is that we often idolize certain people for having this or that skill, but don’t adequately appreciate that they still practiced a lot and put a lot of effort into honing their skills.
 
smitty_p said:
I’ll add, I do believe everyone is different and people have different innate aptitudes and strengths that others may not have.

I’m not trying to say that anyone can do anything that someone else does.

My only point is that we often idolize certain people for having this or that skill, but don’t adequately appreciate that they still practiced a lot and put a lot of effort into honing their skills.
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Some people are better at doing some things than other people are, it's just true in life. It does not mean I can not do it, and I get this. I do find when I stick it out and finish a hard passage or progression that I almost feel a bit let down that the magic of it somehow has vanished. Not that I have mastered that many per say. but some things are just hard and I will keep getting better damnit.
 
One thing I have realized in my mature age, is you don't have to start young, to be a very good guitar player. I started at age 60 with guitar , there are people I have played for and one particular friend a guitar player himself, who thought I have played since I was young man. When I told him I started at 60 he didn't believe me.

Its come from 2 hours of practice every day, If you have drive and discipline , You can accomplish much. There are some older gents in life that sell themselves short, thinking they cannot be good at playing guitar, won't have the speed , just not have the ability to pick it up.

Practice, practice, practice is the key, once you start seeing yourself making headway you start gaining confidence. That's the key confidence and practice. Age is just a number, don't let it hinder you from doing anything.

A guy I used to work with years ago, I was 40 at that time and he was 60. We talked about R/C aircraft and knew I was heavily involved in the hobby. He said to me he would really like to do that, but he was too old, said his reflexes wouldn't be good enough. I said what are you talking about that's bologna.

We talked at work a lot about him joining the club. So one day at work he said he wanted to join, so we met at the next meeting and he became a member.

The Instructor who taught me two years before, took him under his wing and taught him, he became a very good Pilot one of the best I have known. He told me one day, you were right, I was my own worse enemy, he passed 2 years ago at age of 80, and he flew planes up to age 78 due to his failing health.

For those of you who might think, you are too old to learn the skills of playing guitar, get that out of your head. YOU CAN DO IT.
 
Session 5 said:
One thing I have realized in my mature age, is you don't have to start young, to be a very good guitar player. I started at age 60 with guitar , there are people I have played for and one particular friend a guitar player himself, who thought I have played since I was young man. When I told him I started at 60 he didn't believe me.

Its come from 2 hours of practice every day, If you have drive and discipline , You can accomplish much. There are some older gents in life that sell themselves short, thinking they cannot be good at playing guitar, won't have the speed , just not have the ability to pick it up.

Practice, practice, practice is the key, once you start seeing yourself making headway you start gaining confidence. That's the key confidence and practice. Age is just a number, don't let it hinder you from doing anything.

A guy I used to work with years ago, I was 40 at that time and he was 60. We talked about R/C aircraft and knew I was heavily involved in the hobby. He said to me he would really like to do that, but he was too old, said his reflexes wouldn't be good enough. I said what are you talking about that's bologna.

We talked at work a lot about him joining the club. So one day at work he said he wanted to join, so we met at the next meeting and he became a member.

The Instructor who taught me two years before, took him under his wing and taught him, he became a very good Pilot one of the best I have known. He told me one day, you were right, I was my own worse enemy, he passed 2 years ago at age of 80, and he flew planes up to age 78 due to his failing health.

For those of you who might think, you are too old to learn the skills of playing guitar, get that out of your head. YOU CAN DO IT.
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I guess you get out of it what you put in to it. I have played a lot lately but I kind of try to create more than emulate. My fingers and joints ache.
I should be learning songs but never seem to get to it. So I lack training motivation .
 
Yes that's true, But some players, do have health issues which prevent them from playing as much, or in some cases not playing at all. And some cases a lack of motivation. This can happen to anyone at any time. But hopefully if we are just at a temporary hiatus, we will get that motivation somehow to continue on to use our gifts. That motivates me, there are many who would love to be able to play guitar, If it was easy everybody would be doing it. So for those of us who can, continue on and enjoy that gift..
 
ibmorjamn said:
I guess you get out of it what you put in to it. I have played a lot lately but I kind of try to create more than emulate. My fingers and joints ache.
I should be learning songs but never seem to get to it. So I lack training motivation .
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I say do whatever makes you happy, I just love to play. I have a problem with staying on task and keeping focus to learn whole songs.
I’m working on it.
Oh and I take Tumeric, beet root and reservatrol and it really helps me with my joint pain.
 
ibmorjamn said:
That is true, started young.
There are several people I know that started in school band playing obscures (to rock) instruments and they seem to have a little better understanding of at least theory and or timing.

If for example you do choose someone like Uli, he is what I believe a Hendrix reincarnated. Hear me out, not a clone.
Plenty of those.

The weird obsessed part is he married Monica Dannemann.
But his whole early career was an obsession.
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I too started young, but i never really started developing new techniques until about 7 years ago...when i was 50.

Up until that point, i just studied cover songs and played them and earned a full-time income doing it. I could play relatively fast solos from memory, but i never paid any real attention to the science behind it.

I still don't try to learn theory. In fact, i avoid it. When you are literally working (4) jobs simultaneously, you don't have the time to sit and study theory while you are on the clock.

What i have done, however, is learn faster and more intricate solos.

I greatly admire Yngwie and his fluidity and accuracy, but ive never tried to emulate him. I have studied a few of his licks and some of his compositions, and i can see how the simple repeating patterns do indeed make sense when coupled together, but I'm more intrigued by Furious George than Yngwie.
 
smitty_p said:
I would say they are totally human and not really much different from you or me.

If you read the history of some of these great players, you’ll see they got to where they are by the same thing required of anyone: lots and lots of practice. They often started very young, when the mind is most pliable and able to learn, and practiced for hours and hours out of the day.

So, to look at them now, after they’ve come on the scene, they look other-worldly. But, taking everything in context, things are clearer and less “alien”.
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This guy is a guy but not of this world, Tim Henson of Polyhia:
 
Now I love the lofty neoclassical guitar work from the decades past but it is rock based blues that melts my soul and Be Bop Deluxe is regal in my book anyway. Of course Led Zeppelin was regal as well. Just a cut above. Not impossible to play but some passages have their merrit. I play lots of notes but it doesn't take a million. Lol
Be Bop Deluxe is perfectly brilliant:
 
Zack is one of a kind, I have liked his work since "No Rest For the Wicked"
Not many people can make a string vibrato the way he does. His pick attack is brutal.
But I like it that way.
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