Intonation Question

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As I've stated in another thread, I'm pretty hearing impaired. I'm having some problem with my Epi Explorer with intonation. Typical problem of some chords sounding out of tune. Is it possible (or preferable) to do the 12th fret harmonic adjustments using my tuner? I ask because there are certain notes and harmonics that overload my hearing aids, so I'm not really fixing my problem.
 
And unless you’re better at it than I was the first time. You’ll get the 12 fret right.... and the open string tune will be off. Lost track of how much back and forth I had to do..... 6 times before I was able to get open tuning right AND 12th fret right. But once I did. What a difference.
 
Sometimes, a guitar may be in tune when you set it up open, and at the 12th fret. Shorter scale guitars always seem to have something wonky going on with the G string. If you play mostly open chords you're good. But, if you play otherwise, you may want to capo the first fret. Then adjust to the octave. Open chords may seem weird, but barre chords and scales will be in tune.
 
iblive said:
And unless you’re better at it than I was the first time. You’ll get the 12 fret right.... and the open string tune will be off. Lost track of how much back and forth I had to do..... 6 times before I was able to get open tuning right AND 12th fret right. But once I did. What a difference.
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This is easier to do if you use the 12th fret harmonic and the 12 fret fretted note instead of the open string, (fundamental note) which has more overtones than the pure harmonic.
 
iblive said:
Roger the G string. That one messes with me all the time.
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Instead of setting the harmonic at exactly 1 octave, try setting it 3/100s sharp with a strobe tuner.
This is how piano tuners deal with an even-tempered scale.
and so it never sounds exactly right unless it increases 3/100ths of a semi-tone for each increasing octave above the original tone.

Of course to do this, you need a strobe tuner like a Peterson and not a normal guitar tuner.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
Instead of setting the harmonic at exactly 1 octave, try setting it 3/100s sharp with a strobe tuner.
This is how piano tuners deal with an even-tempered scale.
and so it never sounds exactly right unless it increases 3/100ths of a semi-tone for each increasing octave above the original tone.

Of course to do this, you need a strobe tuner like a Peterson and not a normal guitar tuner.
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Nice thing about the Peterson tuners, is the "Sweetened" mode. Tune slightly flat, be in tune up the neck. Need to set intonation correctly, in standard mode first.
 
eSGEe said:
we are supposed to tune these things? what like a radio or something -- CRAP on a CRACKER.....NEW STRINGS....TUNING...SOLDERING -- might as well get a damn JOB not a HOBBY
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You already DO have a job: keeping me under control (at all times.)
B. Adult supervision.
There has never been a forum, so exquisitely supervised.

When I joined this forum, there were more moderators than there were members. :pound-hand::pound-hand::pound-hand:
 
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SG John said:
Nice thing about the Peterson tuners, is the "Sweetened" mode. Tune slightly flat, be in tune up the neck. Need to set intonation correctly, in standard mode first.
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Copy that on the tune a tick flat. Read somewhere a very long time ago, the human ear detects sharp easier than flat. If perfect tune, the way I squeeze the string I automatically go sharp..... which I may get away with playing notes. But craptastic playing chords. Touch flat open.... perfect fretted. And my tuning issue seems to be just the G and B string.
 
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