I need to replace my front door and it confuses me...

Cador., Trim removal should be the least of your worries. It is easily re used and re mounted.
BUT, if you are hard pressed to not take it off, Get a drywall saw and a shop vac and dig out any insulation or debris in the largest gap and shine a light in the crack to see if you can see inside to see if you see metal.

Another way to be detective. CAN U SEE any NAIL HOLES that were FILLED in the Exterior Door trim,. up close to the inner edges of the frame? If there is metal behind there, it would not have permitted use of trim nails.
 
So Chili what you’re saying is that the metal around the jamb is like on a window frame ??
If that’s the case Chris you will have to gently remove the trim around the door on the exterior to remove the jamb.
Cheers
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
I wish I was out at Cador's house, We'd have had the door in by now.
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And you would be playing guitars. There is definitely metal in there. The nails through the trim pieces are huge galvanized things. No trim nails. I'm going to drill a hole that I can get the Sawzall into and leave the trim in place. The trim is solid and really well caulked to the cedar siding. I would rather not mess with it. Plus the ID on the trim is 38 inches.
 
I don't need a bear wandering in while I'm asleep. A few years ago I went to sleep with just the screen door in place. Woke up with a black lab sleeping on the floor beside the bed. Good dog. Lives about a mile away. Still freaked me the hell out. Pushed in the screen.
 
Cador, is all that gray perimeter jamb that we see, all metal as well?

I wasn't even thinking about how if it is, then there is a big chance your original thought was correct.
Totally unusual type door then. There are so many things my eyes, a tape, and experience of actually seeing a thing would tell me.

If this is an all metal jamb, then I suspect dismantling it without removing the 2x outer trim will be a super war like demo just to save not removing the outside trim.

If you see this GAP in the pic, tell me what it is and what kind of tool you can get in there to saw with. I am also guessing, if you try to sawzall in there down the whole side, there is a good chance the blade will jump out and ding up your trim anyway.

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Pharzignoodle! Yes, every bit of that is metal and I can see shiny metal in the crack between the outer jamb and the cedar 2x4.
 
I can almost feel how I would demo the frame from behind the Trim. First is to loosen the trim ( not necessarily remove it, I would get a big crowbar x2, and my flatbar and hammer in that gap to pry out to see iif the nails pull away or dig in and make bigger holes in the 2x4,

If I get any kind of pulling away, then it would make nail removal possible without damage to the Cedar
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Let me ask you this,. Other than a new actual door, why did you decide to swap doors?

And I don't suppose there is any chance of using the new door in the old jamb?
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Once upon a time... I got up here for deer opener, my truck broke down, we were in a loaner that got stuck in the driveway in the blizzard, my keys were in my truck at the closed dealership 50 miles away and the power was out, so the garage door openers wouldn't work.
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I had my buddy (college defensive lineman) let us in.
 
As for the caulk, a razor knife to cut the caulk, and a Window bar or 5 in 1 tool and your hammer, will loosen the grip of the caulk.

The goal will be to somehow get any fasteners holding removed from that metal frame to the opening from behind the trim. Whatever happens, That old door frame will be the dictator of how it will get dismantled.
 
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