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I have had it with musical Unicorn parts.
It’s seems if you want a good wah wah tone you have to spend more money than the crap is worth. I am just to the point where it’s not worth it. Keep your Unicorns!
I feel like they need us more than we need them. The parts can rot on the shelf.
 
I have had it with musical Unicorn parts.
It’s seems if you want a good wah wah tone you have to spend more money than the crap is worth. I am just to the point where it’s not worth it. Keep your Unicorns!
I feel like they need us more than we need them. The parts can rot on the shelf.
I hear you there sir. Though I appreciate quality parts, over unicorn fahts (annunciation in the Mass-hole vernacular ;))…but in the end…whatever works…twist all the knobs until it sounds good.
 
Man, I just use an off-the-shelf Dunlop GCB-95 Standard Wah

You have to upgrade the inductor though.. to really get the best tone out of it.

It's like a $6 part. You can also play with the values of this resistor and capacitor to alter the tone.

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Yeah, I mean.. for a $6 part it made a believer outta me !

I haven't yet messed with the "voicing resistor" or the "sweep cap" values, because after I upgraded the stock inductor to this one here.. I was happy with the wah tone.
Excellent! What kind of inductor is that? I haven’t needed to perform any wah surgery in a decade…
 
I'm often surprised how fast people will swap out components of guitars, amps, or pedals. I'm not talking after a few months, but a few days (if that long). For the most part, all my stuff is stock. Except old guitars I bought that had Mighty Mite or DiMarzio pickups in them, and I wanted to get something closer to the stock PAF style pickups that were removed. I always stick with a basic formula for pickups, and it has seemed to work for me. Usually I try a capacitor or potentiometer change first because it makes a bigger difference for a much more wallet friendly price tag.

After that, all my amps are stock with the exception of tubes. Parts only get replaced when necessary. I also need much more time to assess how things sound or work for me because I know how it sounds in my cellar or living room is not gong to be the same as when I'm playing with my band. It's funny how adjusting the tone pots of an amp to find the sweet spot in each of the tone pots changes when you're playing in your house compared to next to a loud drummer and bass player, and having to work with the bass player to get both sounds complimentary to each other.

Also when I buy anything, I buy it because of what it is and how it played/sounded when checking it out. When offered stuff over the years, it always had to fulfill one of the "Do I own one", "Will it offer something to the musical sound palette", "Is it something I would really like to own?" Many guitars I have bought since joining guitar forums and being drawn into the world of GAS, have really been left alone. I bought a Rick 330 several years ago that sounded amazing. I wanted to put a set of Rick "Toaster" pickups in it that I have. Although the "Toaster" aesthetic is what I want, the guitar sounds too good to mess with it. My '82 Les Paul Standard is stock. I'm not touching my ES-335 because it sounds great as is. Memphis hit it out of the park with that guitar. I have one Strat that the '54 reissue Custom Shop pickups that came with it did not sound good. I put them in a different Strat, and they sound great. The pickups I put in the other guitar are amazing. That took several months of research swapping between amps and the pedals I was using at the time. Also swapping the pickups between the guitars numerous times because I didn't believe that they sounded great in one guitar but not the other.

I still think no matter what guitars or anything else in the chain you buy, you should spend time with it before dismissing something and starting an upgrade process that may never produce any results. A dead sounding guitar that is still a dead sounding guitar after a proper setup isn't going to sound better with pickup, capacitor, or potentiometer upgrades. The trouble with having to buy so much stuff on-line these days, is you never get to truly evaluate it before purchasing it. I've always said that I live a very spoiled life having so many options for actual music stores in a less than 100 mile radius from Boston. I get to play stuff before buying it which is a wonderful thing because I can say "no", and walk away. The only real unicorn dust I believe in is practice. Right now, I wouldn't change a thing on any guitar I bought because I am wayyyyyy to much out of practice. Maybe when I can start spending the amount of time I used to, I'll consider my opinion on the certain aspects of the nuances of a particular guitar a bit more serious.

But yeah, leave it alone. Play it and get familiar with it. Learn every little nuance. If you're still not happy, mod away.
 
Man, I just use an off-the-shelf Dunlop GCB-95 Standard Wah

You have to upgrade the inductor though.. to really get the best tone out of it.

It's like a $6 part. You can also play with the values of this resistor and capacitor to alter the tone.

o5X5SmL.jpg
If I could find a $6 inductor I would not have even posted this. Please tell more about this inductor, those are parts of the unicorn. $50 less than any another option I have found.
 
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I got it from one of the effects pedal component sources I've used for years.

There's more expensive one's out there, to be sure. But this one was a surefire upgrade to my basic Dunlop Wah pedal

https://stompboxparts.com/transformers-inductors/wah-inductor-me-6/

If I could find a $6 inductor I would not have even posted this. Please tell more about this inductor, those are parts of the unicorn. $50 unless you have another option I have not found.
He posted a link…in the quote above. Looks fun!
 
If I could find a $6 inductor I would not have even posted this. Please tell more about this inductor, those are parts of the unicorn. $50 unless you have another option I have not found.
I got it from Stomp Box Parts

It's just a higher quality part than the stock inductor.

You can really get into modding these things for more specific sounds/tonality if you start changing the value of the voicing resistor and the sweep cap.
 
I'm often surprised how fast people will swap out components of guitars, amps, or pedals. I'm not talking after a few months, but a few days (if that long). For the most part, all my stuff is stock. Except old guitars I bought that had Mighty Mite or DiMarzio pickups in them, and I wanted to get something closer to the stock PAF style pickups that were removed. I always stick with a basic formula for pickups, and it has seemed to work for me. Usually I try a capacitor or potentiometer change first because it makes a bigger difference for a much more wallet friendly price tag.

After that, all my amps are stock with the exception of tubes. Parts only get replaced when necessary. I also need much more time to assess how things sound or work for me because I know how it sounds in my cellar or living room is not gong to be the same as when I'm playing with my band. It's funny how adjusting the tone pots of an amp to find the sweet spot in each of the tone pots changes when you're playing in your house compared to next to a loud drummer and bass player, and having to work with the bass player to get both sounds complimentary to each other.

Also when I buy anything, I buy it because of what it is and how it played/sounded when checking it out. When offered stuff over the years, it always had to fulfill one of the "Do I own one", "Will it offer something to the musical sound palette", "Is it something I would really like to own?" Many guitars I have bought since joining guitar forums and being drawn into the world of GAS, have really been left alone. I bought a Rick 330 several years ago that sounded amazing. I wanted to put a set of Rick "Toaster" pickups in it that I have. Although the "Toaster" aesthetic is what I want, the guitar sounds too good to mess with it. My '82 Les Paul Standard is stock. I'm not touching my ES-335 because it sounds great as is. Memphis hit it out of the park with that guitar. I have one Strat that the '54 reissue Custom Shop pickups that came with it did not sound good. I put them in a different Strat, and they sound great. The pickups I put in the other guitar are amazing. That took several months of research swapping between amps and the pedals I was using at the time. Also swapping the pickups between the guitars numerous times because I didn't believe that they sounded great in one guitar but not the other.

I still think no matter what guitars or anything else in the chain you buy, you should spend time with it before dismissing something and starting an upgrade process that may never produce any results. A dead sounding guitar that is still a dead sounding guitar after a proper setup isn't going to sound better with pickup, capacitor, or potentiometer upgrades. The trouble with having to buy so much stuff on-line these days, is you never get to truly evaluate it before purchasing it. I've always said that I live a very spoiled life having so many options for actual music stores in a less than 100 mile radius from Boston. I get to play stuff before buying it which is a wonderful thing because I can say "no", and walk away. The only real unicorn dust I believe in is practice. Right now, I wouldn't change a thing on any guitar I bought because I am wayyyyyy to much out of practice. Maybe when I can start spending the amount of time I used to, I'll consider my opinion on the certain aspects of the nuances of a particular guitar a bit more serious.

But yeah, leave it alone. Play it and get familiar with it. Learn every little nuance. If you're still not happy, mod away.
Good to have all those options, I should not have bought the wah. It’s a can of worms, weak to me anyway. The point is how so many people have parts they want to sell but because the part is no longer in production they put a high price on it. All I am saying is I am not going to buy it. Whatever it is, like the recently released pedal that was hyped “Randy Rhoads”
Klon Centaur, 70’s Gibson T-Tops, Clones of 70’s T-Tops, original PAF’s and so on.
 
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I got it from Stomp Box Parts

It's just a higher quality part than the stock inductor.

You can really get into modding these things for more specific sounds/tonality if you start changing the value of the voicing resistor and the sweep cap.
Right , I read about the voicing mods. There are lots of mods out there. Good find on the inductor. Thanks. It’s not inflated like a lot of them are.
 
Good to have all those options, I should not have bought the wah. It’s a can of worms, weak to me anyway. The point is how so many people have parts they want to sell but because the part is no longer in production they put a high price on it. All I am saying is I am not going to buy it. Whatever it is, like the recently released pedal that was hyped “Randy Rhoads”
Klon Centaur, 70’s Gibson T-Tops, Clones of 70’s T-Tops, original PAF’s and so on.
Yeah, there's so many cloners out there now.. no point in paying ridiculous "snake oil" prices.

I have two boutique pickup winders I do business with who will make you a clone of an Ibanez Super70, a PAF, prototype JB, soapbar P-90... whatever.

AionFX makes the circuit boards for like $12 to build a clone of any effects pedal you could want.
 
Yeah, there's so many cloners out there now.. no point in paying ridiculous "snake oil" prices.

I have two boutique pickup winders I do business with who will make you a clone of an Ibanez Super70, a PAF, prototype JB, soapbar P-90... whatever.

AionFX makes the circuit boards for like $12 to build a clone of any effects pedal you could want.
I have AionFx board here somewhere for a Ibanez Mostortion (MOSFET) clone but I ended up finding a clone pedal and didn’t build it.
 
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.. like the recently released pedal that was hyped “Randy Rhoads” ..
I traded a low-end RR Jackson guitar that I won in a contest for one of those when it was first released by Dunlop.

Didn't sound any different or better than my 1977 MXR Distortion+

Sold it on Reverb for 2x the street price, right after the first production run ended and no one could get them, but people were still clamoring for them.
 
I have had it with musical Unicorn parts.
It’s seems if you want a good wah wah tone you have to spend more money than the crap is worth. I am just to the point where it’s not worth it. Keep your Unicorns!
I feel like they need us more than we need them. The parts can rot on the shelf.
The parts increased in price because somebody put a big tax on them...
(I take it these parts are made in China)
The price of everything that comes from outside the USA increased significantly.
Many food items I buy at the grocery store have already doubled in price, just recently.
As for my 05 Hyundai car parts:
the manufacturer (Hyundai) cut off parts sales entirely.

I guess lots of people are feeling the pinch, just guessing.
 
I traded a low-end RR Jackson guitar that I won in a contest for one of those when it was first released by Dunlop.

Didn't sound any different or better than my 1977 MXR Distortion+

Sold it on Reverb for 2x the street price, right after the first production run ended and no one could get them, but people were still clamoring for them.
It looked cool but it was about $200. Sadly the family is trying to sell stuff. I didn’t buy one.
I have had so many pedals and wahs. I had an early crybaby, if I had saved that it would been easy to mod. When I had it the only mod I did was a battery. lol
 
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