The J&J is what I’m hoping we can find for my roomie. Glad to hear the feedback! Thanks!It was not painful, I did not get sick and my arm didn't even hurt the next day...
Now they need to let my wife in on it so she can go to Korea.

Never got a flu shot either. But this one can kill me, so I’m waiting for a J&J shot too.For 8 years in the military, I was hospitalized for 2-3 days after each flu vaccination. Needless to say, I avoid these things.
For 8 years in the military, I was hospitalized for 2-3 days after each flu vaccination. Needless to say, I avoid these things.
I have had more vaccines that most have had or can even imagine. I was in a Tactical Control Unit for 3 years and deployed all over the world.
Add to that the other 23 years in the USAF and the needle pokes add up quick!
I got vaccines for things I'd never even heard of. I got mildly sick once or twice, but nothing serious. I'd rather have the vaccine than the virus!
If you have the vaccine, you "do" have the virus.
The entire planet will be permanently infected...forever.



ANd here we are.............AMS and I AGREE on something (the end is near people)
......I have almost posted this several times and erased it. Not sure all can "handle it" ......... we'll see I guess......
CONFESSION: I ........................have not stayed home a DAY (not 1 not a single damn 1) in 2020 or 2021 -- I have traveled through 11 states---3 airports--- truck stops-- construction sites-- using portl-o-ets (construction sites are FILTHY areas PERIOD) using shared tools-- equipment.... I dont wash my hands 20 times a day (the horror) no place to do so on a jobsite-- -- I dont wear a mask (horror #2-- I must be an poop chute!) --unless its in a close retail environment where I MIGHT affect ANOTHER "at risk" person--Ive been around Grandchildren and family -- WE HAD A CHRISTMAS -- with kids... germs-- hugs -- kisses... and family all around in 1 tiny ROOM! (and dogs birds ...cats... dirt dander MORE GERMS---its insane!!!!)
I am OUT and AROUND the PUBLIC --- constantly -- all day 6 to 7 days a week. (FYI at least in FLORIDA most folks in these stores....AINT WEARING MASKS EITHER--sorry its reality we are the "problem" state the REBELS ruining it for all! -- )
-- most recently our current job "site" the last month or so has 1/4th of its parking area DEVOTED to COVID VAC SHOT SERVICE-- HUNDREDS of vehicles a day filled with those needing the shot.... (many I think NOT in the "preferred" demographic judging by their look -- but its not my job to police them) .....health care workers and Nat. Guard everywhere mulling about and working -- all GIVING shots and USING the same port o lets...and the same SPACE as us -- bandages... cotton swabs... the OCCASSIONAL syringe/NEEDLE all left on the parking lot (yep) as we install signs and wheel stops and WORK in the area they are all working in.
I am CERTAIN, 220% certain, Ive been exposed to this virus at LEAST once (mathematically its not conceivable I haven't) and I am certain my system (and Sailor Jerry Rum) have "dealt" with it .....
Our 9 man crew has been OUT EVERY DAY as well.
Traveling ALMOST as much as me if not more in the given central Fl area-- and -- not 1 has had, shown, or exhibited a single sign of covid in the least --we havent had an employee register a SICK day all year -(well....2 used sick days for a tooth removal and a baby birth -- and one was just "tired"and needed a day off-- but no REAL ILLNESS) - we are working 60+ hour weeks every week. .........outside in public -- all day. NONE of their wives-- kids-- etc have had covid either (staggering isnt it?)
---how could it be possible out of 10 people traveling all over and working -- NONE have gotten sick????? seems AMZING and IMPOSSIBLE (if you belive the media #'s) doesnt it???? Or .......just MIGHT it be typical NATURE working its magic......?
Yes the way VACCINES WORK is they GIVE YOU THE VIRUS .(the number of people that dont know that makes me frankly, ILL! I recall learning this in MIDDLE SCHOOL BIOLOGY CLASS!!! HELLO PEOPLE!!!)
HOWEVER.......the way vaccines FAIL (much LESS talked about by the medical community) is when the persons system cant handle it ......................... "oops" say the medical community -- its THEIR fault...they were WEAK..... (no -- YOU GAVE them the shot -- YOU KNEW the % of people getting it WOULDNT make it-- you KNOW the risk factor-- yet YOU give it to them ANYWAY with a smile---- and some friendly "banter" about the weather or sports...... wow)--
maybe there should be a better PRE SCREENING SYSTEM ?? if we REALLY want to HELP the masses???? Just a thought. -- and to be clear this is NOT covid specific this is with ANY VACCINE -- any of them CAN make you sick or worse...the CONCEPT of vaccines is really like a Roman Gladiator show in a microscopic level -- they THROW you in the pit with the lion ---if you SurVIVE, well you win!! YEAH!! -- if you DONT ....awh sorry YOU were WEAK ............bye byenot my rules people .... just REALITY
My thinking really at its core is MORBID, I often stand and look at the (not exaggerating) HUNDREDS of cars a day flowing through the LAKE COUNTY FL VACCINATION SITE ....and wonder to myself how many of them --- will be sick tomorrow?.......sicker next week ...or dead in 2 weeks?
Many are VERY ELDERLY..........many get lost on the property and come up to me or crew and ask frantically "WHERE do I get the SHOTS!?!?!?" ---(Ive wanted to say DONT -- FVCKING RUN NOW!) but -- I just POINT to the area where the COPS -- Military-- Nurses and Tents are lined up .......not my battle-- they have their own Lions to fight .....
Daily they come -- every day .5 days a week......with their masks on .......in their cars with the windows rolled up and a/c on ......(???? why????) ....... SCARED TO DEATH (literally???) by the media PUSHING them like lemmings off the cliff .......... sad.
I doubt I (or ANYONE) will ever SEE the REAL numbers of these people who...... get SICK from getting the vaccine in that parking lot and DONT make it ............. frankly its just damn sad --I say ... "maybe they will all be fine" .....but any intelligent person KNOWs that isnt the case.
However I am certain it has and will SAVE THOUSANDS as well. And there is the rub really -- WILL IT ? or does it just EXCHANGE some for others ? (think about that)
how many will live because of the shot that maybe shouldnt have and how many will perish that wouldnt have but do prematurely.......oh thats a real riddle eh? (maybe we should all leave it alone and stop tampering with the ods?)
But, HEY -- not my problem as they say,----- what do I KNOW, Im just a sales guy installing some signs and trying to get through another week---- who am I TO GO AGIANST THE GRAIN?!?!? --
Time for a fresh Rum I believe, then bed.......
this thread (and others recently) have frankly depressed me beyond imagine.
The entire situation is INSANE in its ENTIRETY, and caused me to doubt humanities ability to survive as a whole .....to be clear, for reasons FAR beyond any virus.
ANd here we are.............AMS and I AGREE on something (the end is near people)
......I have almost posted this several times and erased it. Not sure all can "handle it" ......... we'll see I guess......
CONFESSION: I ........................have not stayed home a DAY (not 1 not a single damn 1) in 2020 or 2021 -- I have traveled through 11 states---3 airports--- truck stops-- construction sites-- using portl-o-ets (construction sites are FILTHY areas PERIOD) using shared tools-- equipment.... I dont wash my hands 20 times a day (the horror) no place to do so on a jobsite-- -- I dont wear a mask (horror #2-- I must be an poop chute!) --unless its in a close retail environment where I MIGHT affect ANOTHER "at risk" person--Ive been around Grandchildren and family -- WE HAD A CHRISTMAS -- with kids... germs-- hugs -- kisses... and family all around in 1 tiny ROOM! (and dogs birds ...cats... dirt dander MORE GERMS---its insane!!!!)
I am OUT and AROUND the PUBLIC --- constantly -- all day 6 to 7 days a week. (FYI at least in FLORIDA most folks in these stores....AINT WEARING MASKS EITHER--sorry its reality we are the "problem" state the REBELS ruining it for all! -- )
-- most recently our current job "site" the last month or so has 1/4th of its parking area DEVOTED to COVID VAC SHOT SERVICE-- HUNDREDS of vehicles a day filled with those needing the shot.... (many I think NOT in the "preferred" demographic judging by their look -- but its not my job to police them) .....health care workers and Nat. Guard everywhere mulling about and working -- all GIVING shots and USING the same port o lets...and the same SPACE as us -- bandages... cotton swabs... the OCCASSIONAL syringe/NEEDLE all left on the parking lot (yep) as we install signs and wheel stops and WORK in the area they are all working in.
I am CERTAIN, 220% certain, Ive been exposed to this virus at LEAST once (mathematically its not conceivable I haven't) and I am certain my system (and Sailor Jerry Rum) have "dealt" with it .....
Our 9 man crew has been OUT EVERY DAY as well.
Traveling ALMOST as much as me if not more in the given central Fl area-- and -- not 1 has had, shown, or exhibited a single sign of covid in the least --we havent had an employee register a SICK day all year -(well....2 used sick days for a tooth removal and a baby birth -- and one was just "tired"and needed a day off-- but no REAL ILLNESS) - we are working 60+ hour weeks every week. .........outside in public -- all day. NONE of their wives-- kids-- etc have had covid either (staggering isnt it?)
---how could it be possible out of 10 people traveling all over and working -- NONE have gotten sick????? seems AMZING and IMPOSSIBLE (if you belive the media #'s) doesnt it???? Or .......just MIGHT it be typical NATURE working its magic......?
Yes the way VACCINES WORK is they GIVE YOU THE VIRUS .(the number of people that dont know that makes me frankly, ILL! I recall learning this in MIDDLE SCHOOL BIOLOGY CLASS!!! HELLO PEOPLE!!!)
HOWEVER.......the way vaccines FAIL (much LESS talked about by the medical community) is when the persons system cant handle it ......................... "oops" say the medical community -- its THEIR fault...they were WEAK..... (no -- YOU GAVE them the shot -- YOU KNEW the % of people getting it WOULDNT make it-- you KNOW the risk factor-- yet YOU give it to them ANYWAY with a smile---- and some friendly "banter" about the weather or sports...... wow)--
maybe there should be a better PRE SCREENING SYSTEM ?? if we REALLY want to HELP the masses???? Just a thought. -- and to be clear this is NOT covid specific this is with ANY VACCINE -- any of them CAN make you sick or worse...the CONCEPT of vaccines is really like a Roman Gladiator show in a microscopic level -- they THROW you in the pit with the lion ---if you SurVIVE, well you win!! YEAH!! -- if you DONT ....awh sorry YOU were WEAK ............bye byenot my rules people .... just REALITY
My thinking really at its core is MORBID, I often stand and look at the (not exaggerating) HUNDREDS of cars a day flowing through the LAKE COUNTY FL VACCINATION SITE ....and wonder to myself how many of them --- will be sick tomorrow?.......sicker next week ...or dead in 2 weeks?
Many are VERY ELDERLY..........many get lost on the property and come up to me or crew and ask frantically "WHERE do I get the SHOTS!?!?!?" ---(Ive wanted to say DONT -- FVCKING RUN NOW!) but -- I just POINT to the area where the COPS -- Military-- Nurses and Tents are lined up .......not my battle-- they have their own Lions to fight .....
Daily they come -- every day .5 days a week......with their masks on .......in their cars with the windows rolled up and a/c on ......(???? why????) ....... SCARED TO DEATH (literally???) by the media PUSHING them like lemmings off the cliff .......... sad.
I doubt I (or ANYONE) will ever SEE the REAL numbers of these people who...... get SICK from getting the vaccine in that parking lot and DONT make it ............. frankly its just damn sad --I say ... "maybe they will all be fine" .....but any intelligent person KNOWs that isnt the case.
However I am certain it has and will SAVE THOUSANDS as well. And there is the rub really -- WILL IT ? or does it just EXCHANGE some for others ? (think about that)
how many will live because of the shot that maybe shouldnt have and how many will perish that wouldnt have but do prematurely.......oh thats a real riddle eh? (maybe we should all leave it alone and stop tampering with the ods?)
But, HEY -- not my problem as they say,----- what do I KNOW, Im just a sales guy installing some signs and trying to get through another week---- who am I TO GO AGIANST THE GRAIN?!?!? --
Time for a fresh Rum I believe, then bed.......
this thread (and others recently) have frankly depressed me beyond imagine.
The entire situation is INSANE in its ENTIRETY, and caused me to doubt humanities ability to survive as a whole .....to be clear, for reasons FAR beyond any virus.
Same here. I have not missed a single day of work throughout the entire pandemic.
Same here. I have not missed a single day of work throughout the entire pandemic.
you assume correctlySo can I assume you are not getting the vaccine?