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gball
Ambassador of Boogie
Yes, this is really true. It'd probably be easier to move them separately than as a package.
mdubya
Well-Known Member
These two posts sum up my exact thoughts.
Those prices would be solid real world actual sales prices.
OP
Ya, I agree...I'm in no rush...
Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
The prices are fair, but hard to obtain in the real world of guitar sales. I know because I have moved a LOT of guitars and they have been languishing lately.
I have had to take bottom dollar to move a guitar or wait a long time...the Attenuator made the package sweeter, but I can understand keeping it.
I have had to take bottom dollar to move a guitar or wait a long time...the Attenuator made the package sweeter, but I can understand keeping it.
Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
I had to ship both of these and take a hit on seller fees.
I got $650 for the Cherry Faded and I had to remove the Vibrola before it would sell...
Pickups - Seymour Duncan SH-1 N & B 59's
Wiring - Toneman 50's Wiring Kit
Tuners - Hipshot Locking with Pearloid Buttons
Pearloid Pick Guard and TRC
I got $950 for the Standard with Maestro
I got $600 for the Special T
I got $650 for the Cherry Faded and I had to remove the Vibrola before it would sell...
Pickups - Seymour Duncan SH-1 N & B 59's
Wiring - Toneman 50's Wiring Kit
Tuners - Hipshot Locking with Pearloid Buttons
Pearloid Pick Guard and TRC
I got $950 for the Standard with Maestro
I got $600 for the Special T
OP
I've always taken huge losses on musical gear. Check this out...
I paid $730.00 for the SG, $135.00 for the case, $599.00 for the DSL40C and about $200.00 for the attenuator....all brand new at at full retail....and I will NEVER do it again.
My #1 guitar is my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute. I traded a music store a one-off custom Ibanez DT555 replica for it and got $400.00 cash to boot.
First of all, I earn a comfortable living with ONE guitar. I don't need any more than ONE. I have an extra Les Paul Custom Replica my Mom gave me back, (good for the rougher and/or outdoor venues) and I have the double neck, which does see use on SOME studio projects, but I don't need - or want - any more guitars....ever. New guitars don't make me a better player, neither do they offer me an instant bond. I trust my Les Paul implicitly.
I no longer see guitars that excite me. I see gig opportunities....my weekly salary from my studio work..that's what I get excited about...performing and getting paid to do it.
Amp wise, I am very happy with my 1997 Marshall Valvestate VS265 2X12 Stereo Chorus Combo. I have a line on a Marshall 8280 2X12 that is like new. These two amps will give me just about everything I need, plus two amps are REQUIRED for my doubleneck with separate inputs.
Next will be a 1x12 Marshall Valvestate VT50 as a portable practice amp, then an AVT50H or VS100H head to mate with my pair of 1985 Jackson 4X12 cabinets.
I am very patient and if these things don't seel, they will just keep sitting covered until someone needs them...
Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
I've always taken huge losses on musical gear. Check this out...
I paid $730.00 for the SG, $135.00 for the case, $599.00 for the DSL40C and about $200.00 for the attenuator....all brand new at at full retail....and I will NEVER do it again.
My #1 guitar is my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute. I traded a music store a one-off custom Ibanez DT555 replica for it and got $400.00 cash to boot.
First of all, I earn a comfortable living with ONE guitar. I don't need any more than ONE. I have an extra Les Paul Custom Replica my Mom gave me back, (good for the rougher and/or outdoor venues) and I have the double neck, which does see use on SOME studio projects, but I don't need - or want - any more guitars....ever. New guitars don't make me a better player, neither do they offer me an instant bond. I trust my Les Paul implicitly.
I no longer see guitars that excite me. I see gig opportunities....my weekly salary from my studio work..that's what I get excited about...performing and getting paid to do it.
Amp wise, I am very happy with my 1997 Marshall Valvestate VS265 2X12 Stereo Chorus Combo. I have a line on a Marshall 8280 2X12 that is like new. These two amps will give me just about everything I need, plus two amps are REQUIRED for my doubleneck with separate inputs.
Next will be a 1x12 Marshall Valvestate VT50 as a portable practice amp, then an AVT50H or VS100H head to mate with my pair of 1985 Jackson 4X12 cabinets.
I am very patient and if these things don't seel, they will just keep sitting covered until someone needs them...
That's the first thing I noticed about you Robert, you're a great player and you don't covet or need a lot of gear! You are right that gear does not make the player.
I think it's fantastic that you can make a living doing session work and occasional gigs! It's not an easy thing to do anymore...
You should keep that gear until the price you want comes along. There are always buyers, they may just take a while to materialize!
If you want to list any of it on Reverb let me know. I have a good seller reputation there and you may be able to get very close to what you want.
You could also Craigslist it, but you have to deal with wakos!
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
I've always taken huge losses on musical gear. Check this out...
I paid $730.00 for the SG, $135.00 for the case, $599.00 for the DSL40C and about $200.00 for the attenuator....all brand new at at full retail....and I will NEVER do it again.
My #1 guitar is my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute. I traded a music store a one-off custom Ibanez DT555 replica for it and got $400.00 cash to boot.
First of all, I earn a comfortable living with ONE guitar. I don't need any more than ONE. I have an extra Les Paul Custom Replica my Mom gave me back, (good for the rougher and/or outdoor venues) and I have the double neck, which does see use on SOME studio projects, but I don't need - or want - any more guitars....ever. New guitars don't make me a better player, neither do they offer me an instant bond. I trust my Les Paul implicitly.
I no longer see guitars that excite me. I see gig opportunities....my weekly salary from my studio work..that's what I get excited about...performing and getting paid to do it.
Amp wise, I am very happy with my 1997 Marshall Valvestate VS265 2X12 Stereo Chorus Combo. I have a line on a Marshall 8280 2X12 that is like new. These two amps will give me just about everything I need, plus two amps are REQUIRED for my doubleneck with separate inputs.
Next will be a 1x12 Marshall Valvestate VT50 as a portable practice amp, then an AVT50H or VS100H head to mate with my pair of 1985 Jackson 4X12 cabinets.
I am very patient and if these things don't seel, they will just keep sitting covered until someone needs them...
I think it's very good, and very healthy, to view these instruments as what they are: tools for making music. There was a time in my life when I shared your view on this, but as I evolved away from playing in a band, and gigging, I started to view them more and more as simply my hobby and in turn, like so many others, began to fetishize them a bit. I'm not going to overthink it because I really do enjoy them for the objects they are individually and I like that they all sound and feel so different, but I will admit there is a part of me that wishes I could get back to that one amp/one guitar ideal.
Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
this is great forum functioning at its best.
a fascinating thread, with no snarky comments, no arrogance and a very companionable tone.
I played most of my career with one or two six string acoustics, one bass and one amp
(at a time).
Never needed or wanted more diversity because I felt like I was doing it with the
songs, and the gear was just to make it possible. Also, I felt that my instruments were
among the best. Other guys would talk about their gear, and I'd nod and look wise...
Also, (importantly) I didn't think I could afford buying expensive instruments
and I knew the cheap ones didn't interest me. So I didn't look.
It wasn't until I turned 60, in 2008, that I decided I was in a rut, and needed something
to break out of it. I chose a Gibson SG, and this opened a whole 'nother world.
Which is what I wanted. That thing about getting set in your ways when you're older is
no joke. And an SG is just radical enough to bust all that up.
Now it's ten years later and I've finally sold all my 'vintage' instruments and am
working with newer ones. My career has changed, I'm now a care giver and can
only play short range gigs. Lucky me that I still have a gig now and then. I'm very
grateful for everything the music has given to me. I'm sure I made hundreds of dollars
playing all those places.
Since I've been selling my stuff, I read this thread with interest.
This is a great forum, thanks for inviting me here.
a fascinating thread, with no snarky comments, no arrogance and a very companionable tone.
I played most of my career with one or two six string acoustics, one bass and one amp
(at a time).
Never needed or wanted more diversity because I felt like I was doing it with the
songs, and the gear was just to make it possible. Also, I felt that my instruments were
among the best. Other guys would talk about their gear, and I'd nod and look wise...
Also, (importantly) I didn't think I could afford buying expensive instruments
and I knew the cheap ones didn't interest me. So I didn't look.
It wasn't until I turned 60, in 2008, that I decided I was in a rut, and needed something
to break out of it. I chose a Gibson SG, and this opened a whole 'nother world.
Which is what I wanted. That thing about getting set in your ways when you're older is
no joke. And an SG is just radical enough to bust all that up.
Now it's ten years later and I've finally sold all my 'vintage' instruments and am
working with newer ones. My career has changed, I'm now a care giver and can
only play short range gigs. Lucky me that I still have a gig now and then. I'm very
grateful for everything the music has given to me. I'm sure I made hundreds of dollars
playing all those places.
Since I've been selling my stuff, I read this thread with interest.
This is a great forum, thanks for inviting me here.
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Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
I went nuts with the collection phase of my journey to guitar playing. It was way more of a collection than useful tools. I found out after time that the thrill of the chase was not worth the payoff.
Boutique guitars never felt or played any better for me at my low skill level, but they nice to own and show off. I think I had at least 25 at one point. I'm down to about 9 or 10 now and I'm still
selling them off. I think when I hit 6 or 7 I'll be where I want. The reason for that # is there are a few that are just not worth anything $$$ wise.
Amps were the same to a lesser degree. I went through a lot of them, but never owned 20 at a time. I have 1 Tube Amp, 1 Solid State Amp, I Modeler with a Power Amp, and I Pedal Board Direct to Power Amp.
I don't see myself with any more amps unless I win the lottery...
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
I think the most guitars I ever had at one time was 10. Maybe 11. I am at 6 right now, and I really can't see myself buying any more unless I stumble into a must-have deal. But I don't think I'll go looking for any more. For amps, I have, what? 2 tube heads, 3 cabinets, a 1x12 modeling amp, 1 small practice amp, 1 small battery-powered amp for the patio and one of those little things you plug into your phone and listen through headphones. That's probably the most amps I have had at one time ever. I ought to get rid of some stuff.
OP
I have immense respect for you, and many of our other members here, and I am - in no way - making light of your "affliction" or suggesting that my view is the 'right' one. I'm just sharing my perspective.
I'm not a rich guy, but I get a comfortable salary each week from my studio work and I enjoy living the "dream" I had as a kid, and playing on various music projects and being tapped as a 'special guest' for colleague's music projects. It's a happy place for me, and personally, I found my obsession with guitars (and quieting them down) to distract me from this pursuit.
One day, I decided that I would do nothing but play, as many hours a day as I could, regardless of white noise, or feedback, or even stopping to change strings. I pushed myself in this fashion for several months, recording 100's of rehearsal tracks for our band, playing in several different music projects (can't really call these bands as they were often 3 or 4 of us getting together to do something, then we may not work together for 6 months or so) and before I knew it, I had broken my fascination with acquiring guitars and I became hugely satisfied with my 2016 Gibson Les Paul, and even the white noise didn't bother me anymore.
I find myself 100% satisfied with my ugly 2016 Les Paul. I wore the frets flat in one year of playing and had to level and crown it. I took the opportunity to shield it recently, but retained the PCB and stock Gibson quick connect 498T/496R pickups. It is now dead quiet and impervious to cell phone signals, RFI and everything else that used to cause all manner of interferences with it.
Yes, I still have the 1987 Squire bought for me by bandmates in 1988. All I have ever used it for the past few years are tremolo dives. The rest of the time it sits in it's case. My custom double neck does see studio use when a 12 string is needed, or when a 180-out of phase tone is required - which you can hear on my cover of the solo for "Fall To Pieces" by velvet Revolver.
Mom "traded me" the Les Paul Custom I built for her as a Mother's Day 2017 gift, so I will use that - along with my 2016 Les Paul - as the E-Flat guitar or where I don't want to risk a genuine Gibson...
For me, the desire to create music and work in this industry has surpassed everything else...
It has taken me over 30 years to amass the modest number of guitars and amps I have.
I just don’t get rid of the ones that I continually enjoy.
The ones that I don’t...well...they find their way eventually.
Best of luck Robert.
I just don’t get rid of the ones that I continually enjoy.
The ones that I don’t...well...they find their way eventually.
Best of luck Robert.
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
COL, If you weren't invited to join any forum, the members should all be issued shock therapy. I am proud to say, the welcome you made to me on my first day at ETSG after buying my first SG never faded from my memory. You sir are a good and level headed asset to any forum.
In addition, we all come from many backgrounds all around the globe here, and yet we operate 99% of the time as a team. Obviously I am sure some feathers get ruffled here and there, but I rarely witness any of us treating anyone here in inconsiderate and negative ways.
As a care giver and friend and part time musician, may your loved ones, hunting, photography, instruments and other pursuits that bring you joy, always do so.
Rock On, COL Mustard
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Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
thanks Chili
Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
I did the same with guns in the '70s and '80s,
and then again with fishing lures in the '80s and '90s.
And yes, maybe it's the thrill of the chase... but we call it G.A.S.
I suffered from it before I knew how to name it.
But my condition has always been mild. My gun collection is modest
and utilitarian, and I discovered that I really like wooden fishing lures
with glass eyes. *shrugs
I collected these antiques before they became outrageously priced. But I also like the modern replicas if
they are well made.
Now I get to sell off some or all of these things, and turn them into money we'll need later.
I have a garage full of stuff, some of it excellent. So I might become the local garage sale guy,
with a big sign that says "GUY STUFF"... If that don't fetch 'em, I don't know rural Michigan.
Sorry if I deflected this thread... let's get back to encouraging our colleague Robert
to get a good price for his gear. I too believe the offered price is very fair, and any of our
members could buy that guitar and that amp and rock. Somebody here ought to pounce.
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Sp8ctre
Ambassador of Steel
I went through a phase with a HUGE collection of old Aurora H.O. Scale slot cars. I must have had
well over 1000 of them. I did make a lot of money when I sold them off though...no so with guitars!
OP
I love HO! I still have a Bowker 2-4-0!
Session 5
Ambassador of Strings & Wings
Well I find I have more than enough guitars at 4. I play each one of them and I like each one of them, for now I will stay with 4 but I have always been a believer that 2 is enough, at some point I might go down to 2. After all you can only play one at a time. I have 4 amps and that's plenty, I might sell one off but I could get away with 3 amps, I have my MojoMojo pedal and Ditto I will keep them both they get good use. The gear that I have right now all gets used down the road I might make a couple of adjustments. I really like to play and spend much time doing so, and through the winter months do some gigs. And now that I am back to the Cottage for the Summer will get lots of playing time in. As many of you know R/C is my #1 Gig and I will get lots of flying in this year hopefully if the weather cooperates, but I have learned over the years I own 20 Aircraft and lots of gear, I can only fly one at a time. They're 2 Giants that I like to fly so I switch between the 2 of them. I have become a better Pilot by doing so, getting to know those two Planes inside and out is the key, you get know what they can do and you become one with them. I believe its the same with guitar you need to become one with it, and I believe this really helps to be a better player so for this reason I will probably in the future cut back to two guitars. One thing with the planes is I am happy that I built the 20 Planes just in case I had some fatalities, this way you have extra planes to fly if necessary. In my 30 yrs of flying I have had 3 right offs, I have sold 2, there is always guys wanting to buy, but now I have been thinking of selling some I think I could cut a few free, this would allow me to have a bit more room in my Man Cave. Now that I am getting a little older, I have done more thinking on downsizing. My Wife and I did this with our home when we renovated a few years back, makes things much easier to manage.