The guy who sells the connectors on E-Bay and Reverb has a chart to sort of the wire order. Nice guy!!!
Gibson Conundrum
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The guy who sells the connectors on E-Bay and Reverb has a chart to sort of the wire order. Nice guy!!!
eclecticsynergy
Ambassador of Electric Synergy
Using the connectors saves Gibson time and money in the production line.
We all know they're on a shoestring to keep their prices so low...
A secondary benefit is, it discourages many from replacing the Gibson humbuckers.
We all know they're on a shoestring to keep their prices so low...
A secondary benefit is, it discourages many from replacing the Gibson humbuckers.
LiveeviL2000
Ambassador of Pentagonal Pentatonics
I would say that sounds like a paranoid conspiracy theory.
Sadly, That actually sounds realistic and correct.
OP
ninjaking67
Ambassador of Good Will
In the past I have had several Gibby’s with the PCB and they always played and sounded great.
If I decide that this SG is a keeper I will likely hand wire it but will make do with this for now.
If I decide that this SG is a keeper I will likely hand wire it but will make do with this for now.
jtcnj
Ambassador of the Crossroad
I dont know if it is the same seller, but I found this.
Once you get this sorted, I see no benefit to abandoning the pcb if it all functions properly.
jtcnj
Ambassador of the Crossroad
This has me thinking about the effects if the 2 coils are wired incorrectly, or the other options.
I'm thinking if one coil start and finish are reversed, it may cancel the hum bucking effect.
I think I recall if you want the out of phase / Peter Green deal, the magnet needs to be turned to be out of phase with the other pickup.
I guess if you wire them parallel, the polarity has to be right / opposite to keep the humbucking effect.
I reckon all this can be found on the web, sorry for the rambling.
The Dimarzio PAF Pro I bought used sounded really weak when I first installed it - in the neck of my semi hollow.
It didnt hum like a single coil from what I remember, or it wasnt so loud I took note of it.
I wired it the way it came; one pair spliced, one lead with the shield, and the hot by itself.
Turns out it was wired wrong - I dont recall exactly but I think one coil was the spliced pair, so it was only operating as a single coil.
Anyway, sorted it using the Dimarzio wiring diagram - it sounds great.
PIA, but it gave me the practice and experience both troubleshooting the pickup and fishing the semi-hollow.
I'm thinking if one coil start and finish are reversed, it may cancel the hum bucking effect.
I think I recall if you want the out of phase / Peter Green deal, the magnet needs to be turned to be out of phase with the other pickup.
I guess if you wire them parallel, the polarity has to be right / opposite to keep the humbucking effect.
I reckon all this can be found on the web, sorry for the rambling.
The Dimarzio PAF Pro I bought used sounded really weak when I first installed it - in the neck of my semi hollow.
It didnt hum like a single coil from what I remember, or it wasnt so loud I took note of it.
I wired it the way it came; one pair spliced, one lead with the shield, and the hot by itself.
Turns out it was wired wrong - I dont recall exactly but I think one coil was the spliced pair, so it was only operating as a single coil.
Anyway, sorted it using the Dimarzio wiring diagram - it sounds great.
PIA, but it gave me the practice and experience both troubleshooting the pickup and fishing the semi-hollow.
OP
ninjaking67
Ambassador of Good Will
jtcnj,
The diagram you posted above seems to match what I found through testing, wrt the bridge pickup. White is hot. I just need to verify if Black and Shield are shorted on the PCB or if I should connect them together when soldering the pickup.
Thank you for your research.
The diagram you posted above seems to match what I found through testing, wrt the bridge pickup. White is hot. I just need to verify if Black and Shield are shorted on the PCB or if I should connect them together when soldering the pickup.
Thank you for your research.
syscokid
Ambassador of War & Peace
Wow, I'll be damned! Was Gibson trying to "Idiot proof" the assembler's job to keep from installing the neck and bridge pickup in the wrong position?
I've changed PCB's to hand wired harnesses and the only change I noticed was $169.00 less in my account.
Guys with a heavy electronics background will affirm that only capacitor value - not construction - makes a difference and guitar circuit milivolts are too low for the size of the conductor medium to make a difference.
But, this industry depends on your loyal following, so please buy, buy, buy!!!!!
OP
ninjaking67
Ambassador of Good Will
Yes, I will of course test before permanently soldering and heatshrinking all the leads.
OP
ninjaking67
Ambassador of Good Will
Electrons do not know the difference between paper in oil or ceramic or mica capacitors. As jtcnj stated above, “caps is caps”.
Exactly!
But don't say it too loudly....people have been conditioned to believe they can hear a difference.
eclecticsynergy
Ambassador of Electric Synergy
Once people internalize a belief, they become highly resistant to any information that contradicts it.
In a practical sense this makes some nearly immune to facts and science.
In a practical sense this makes some nearly immune to facts and science.
The religion of tone!!!!
I'll tell you guys something.
People here may give me poop because I tell them that they are hearing things that marketing has conditioned them to hear, but not a day goes by that someone doesn't email me and thank me that I saved them from wasting money needlessly on gear.
Last night at rehearsal, we had a guest player with a Telecaster through a Twin Reverb. He had the worst case of "I can hear the subtlety" that I've ever seen, so we invited him to record some songs during the session with us, then make all his EQ changes and re-record them.
He was pissed that what he "heard" in his head, could not be detected on the playback, even when playing the tracks side by side.
The gear YOU currently own is better than ANYTHING used to record the songs you grew up listening too.
Just plug in, and play....
People here may give me poop because I tell them that they are hearing things that marketing has conditioned them to hear, but not a day goes by that someone doesn't email me and thank me that I saved them from wasting money needlessly on gear.
Last night at rehearsal, we had a guest player with a Telecaster through a Twin Reverb. He had the worst case of "I can hear the subtlety" that I've ever seen, so we invited him to record some songs during the session with us, then make all his EQ changes and re-record them.
He was pissed that what he "heard" in his head, could not be detected on the playback, even when playing the tracks side by side.
The gear YOU currently own is better than ANYTHING used to record the songs you grew up listening too.
Just plug in, and play....
Astral Traveler
Ambassador of Both Time and Space
Just be happy they stay consistent within the same pickup type. It could have been completely random
