Gibson Announces New CEO

ivan H said:
Neither would I, wouldn't even consider it & I'm not even American. To me, a Gibson made outside of the US just wouldn't BE a Gibson. Cheers
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What if they were made in Australia?:wink:

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You know, if an Australian company bought them lock stock and barrel, moved the Gibson gear to Australia, etc, I'd be cool with it. It's a business and they are just guitars at the end of the day. Although, I would much rather they stay in the USA.
 
Drumoid said:
You know, if an Australian company bought them lock stock and barrel, moved the Gibson gear to Australia, etc, I'd be cool with it. It's a business and they are just guitars at the end of the day. Although, I would much rather they stay in the USA.
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I'd be cool with that too. I just wouldn't buy another.
 
I have sevearl Kalamazoo Gibsons......they moved the plant to Nashville--- are the Nashville ones not as good as the Kalamazoo ones? IF they move the plant to India (like HARLEY has done ---oh-- you didnt know that....yes they have an INDIAN MFCt. facitlity -- for the European Mkt I assume-- but are Indo Harleys sold int he US? Dunno-- perhaps???) ---anyway if GIBSON moves the plant to INDIA -- is it still a GIBSON?
THe COmpanies HEadquartered in the US--- so still a "US BASED COMPANY" the New CEO knows how to pull this off (pants joke here) --- its NOT a STRETCH in the LEVIS -- to see it happen with the BIG "G"

As Drumoid says -- its a BUSINESS--- and decisions are made -- in the name of PROFIT-- to the SHAREHOLDERS-- not (sadly) to the liking of the customers at all times-----

and to answer my own question -- the Kalamazoo Gibsons (and 1 EPIPHONE USA!!!) are friggin AWESOME ;)

but so is my 2015 Nashville Les Paul JR..... so--- does it truly matter WHERE the CNC machine is located provided it drills the holes int he same place ------if a tree falls on Henry "J" does anyone give a crapo?>
 
What ya'll think...

At what point in manufacturing is it officially the end of the Henry J era and the beginning of the "JC" era?

Gibson was a no-show at Winter NAMM this year. I fully expect them to be at the Winter NAMM for 2019. Will there be any new and promising revelations?
 
BlackSG91 said:
What if they were made in Australia?:wink:

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Mel Gibson isn't Australian. When a VERY young man he traded on an Australian accent but quickly found more dollars were in his native American accent.
Quote from Wikipedia, "Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York. He moved with his parents to Sydney, Australia, when he was 12 years old".
 
eSGEe said:
I have sevearl Kalamazoo Gibsons......they moved the plant to Nashville--- are the Nashville ones not as good as the Kalamazoo ones? IF they move the plant to India (like HARLEY has done ---oh-- you didnt know that....yes they have an INDIAN MFCt. facitlity -- for the European Mkt I assume-- but are Indo Harleys sold int he US? Dunno-- perhaps???) ---anyway if GIBSON moves the plant to INDIA -- is it still a GIBSON?
THe COmpanies HEadquartered in the US--- so still a "US BASED COMPANY" the New CEO knows how to pull this off (pants joke here) --- its NOT a STRETCH in the LEVIS -- to see it happen with the BIG "G"

As Drumoid says -- its a BUSINESS--- and decisions are made -- in the name of PROFIT-- to the SHAREHOLDERS-- not (sadly) to the liking of the customers at all times-----

and to answer my own question -- the Kalamazoo Gibsons (and 1 EPIPHONE USA!!!) are friggin AWESOME ;)

but so is my 2015 Nashville Les Paul JR..... so--- does it truly matter WHERE the CNC machine is located provided it drills the holes int he same place ------if a tree falls on Henry "J" does anyone give a crapo?>
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But Gibson is a private company, no shareholders to muddy the water. The most valuable thing they have is their legacy and the perception it brings to their customers, so in my view the most foolish move they could make would be to give up the "Made In USA" moniker. I know it doesn't matter to some people but I do believe it matters to the majority of Gibson buyers, at least every one I know. If they even started making a percentage of their guitars in other countries it would dilute the brand and image in my mind to the point that I would never buy another new Gibson. I feel this way about American-made Fenders too - they ruined their own image by slapping the Fender name on things made in Mexico, China, Indonesia...they sold their identity cheap IMO.
 
gasket said:
Mel Gibson isn't Australian. When a VERY young man he traded on an Australian accent but quickly found more dollars were in his native American accent.
Quote from Wikipedia, "Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York. He moved with his parents to Sydney, Australia, when he was 12 years old".
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I want a bloody Australian accent!
 
gball said:
But Gibson is a private company, no shareholders to muddy the water. The most valuable thing they have is their legacy and the perception it brings to their customers, so in my view the most foolish move they could make would be to give up the "Made In USA" moniker. I know it doesn't matter to some people but I do believe it matters to the majority of Gibson buyers, at least every one I know. If they even started making a percentage of their guitars in other countries it would dilute the brand and image in my mind to the point that I would never buy another new Gibson. I feel this way about American-made Fenders too - they ruined their own image by slapping the Fender name on things made in Mexico, China, Indonesia...they sold their identity cheap IMO.
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I dont know -----I have a MIM strat that has ruined me --- for ALL Strats--- regardless of Birth Country (damn thing is like pure SEX)-- and I dont see any shortage of 1500.00 and up USA 2018 Strats for sale-- Im guessing folks are buying them I mean -- Fender isnt Bankrupt.......... there is a damn fine argument FOR THE FOREIGN use market tool eh---

Gibson..... snooty pompous corksniffery and barely afloat---
Fender SLAPPING LOGOS ON ANY ol THING -- doing well.....

hhhmmmmmmm
 
I'm trying (rather unsuccessfully) to fight the cork sniffing attitude.
Gibson once the quality control on any particular instrument has been checked as OK is desirable, I have two Epiphones both top notch but don't go looking for more.
When it comes to Fender the first thing I look for, "is it MIA?" Actually that attitude is counter productive as I keep my MIA Fenders locked away and have my MIM at hand, result the cherished MIA's don't get played :-(
 
gball said:
But Gibson is a private company, no shareholders to muddy the water. The most valuable thing they have is their legacy and the perception it brings to their customers, so in my view the most foolish move they could make would be to give up the "Made In USA" moniker. I know it doesn't matter to some people but I do believe it matters to the majority of Gibson buyers, at least every one I know. If they even started making a percentage of their guitars in other countries it would dilute the brand and image in my mind to the point that I would never buy another new Gibson. I feel this way about American-made Fenders too - they ruined their own image by slapping the Fender name on things made in Mexico, China, Indonesia...they sold their identity cheap IMO.
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What's wrong with Mexico gball they have Mexicans building Fender guitars in California.
 
gball said:
But Gibson is a private company, no shareholders to muddy the water. The most valuable thing they have is their legacy and the perception it brings to their customers, so in my view the most foolish move they could make would be to give up the "Made In USA" moniker. I know it doesn't matter to some people but I do believe it matters to the majority of Gibson buyers, at least every one I know. If they even started making a percentage of their guitars in other countries it would dilute the brand and image in my mind to the point that I would never buy another new Gibson. I feel this way about American-made Fenders too - they ruined their own image by slapping the Fender name on things made in Mexico, China, Indonesia...they sold their identity cheap IMO.
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I have a 1996 Fender Stratocater guitar made in Mexico in Candy Apple Red. It's actually a real good guitar and I read somewhere that Mexican Strats made between 1995 to 2000 where some of the best Strats made so I was lucky to find one at the pawn shop for under $400 used. Besides the Mexican plant is not that far away from Corona, Californ-I-A.


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Session 5 said:
What's wrong with Mexico gball they have Mexicans building Fender guitars in California.
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Just don't like it. Fender already had an offshore/foreign-made brand, Squire, that has gotten plenty of love over the years. Just like Gibson has Epiphone to handle their offshore duties.

To me, as a consumer, it seriously diminishes the perceived value of the brand name and I believe dilutes resale by flooding the market with all manner of products carrying the same name (i.e. Fender Stratocaster) at different price and quality points. It's fine to me for a company to stratify their products but not for a company to manufacture essentially identical products with the same brand and product names, differentiated only by country of origin and price point. I don't feel it does anyone any favors, and I don't look at Fender the same since they started these shenanigans.

Sometimes the country of manufacture means something, and is a valuable selling point. I wouldn't buy a Rolex not made in Switzerland or an Audi not made in Germany, and I damn sure would not buy a Gibson made anywhere but the US.

As with all things, opinions vary and you may feel differently.
 
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gball said:
Just don't like it. Fender already had an offshore/foreign-made brand, Squire, that has gotten plenty of love over the years. Just like Gibson has Epiphone to handle their offshore duties.

To me, as a consumer, it seriously diminishes the perceived value of the brand name and I believe dilutes resale by flooding the market with all manner of products carrying the same name (i.e. Fender Stratocaster) at different price and quality points. It's fine to me for a company to stratify their products but not for a company to manufacture essentially identical products with the same brand and product names, differentiated only by country of origin and price point. I don't feel it does anyone any favors, and I don't look at Fender the same since they started these shenanigans.

Sometimes the country of manufacture means something, and is a valuable selling point. I wouldn't buy a Rolex not made in Switzerland or an Audi not made in Germany, and I damn sure would not buy a Gibson made anywhere but the US.

As with all things, opinions vary and you may feel differently.
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I agree with you gball whole heartedly and understand where you are coming from. The way you feel about Gibsons being made in U.S.A, I feel the same way about Godin guitars they are made in Canada and build high quality. Also the company is family owned and operated. If they were to start making their guitars off shore I would stop buying them as well. It comes down to many things, keeping employees working within the country of origin, making sure the company doesn't become too big and loses its focus because of greed, which I think Gibson has had some of these issues and maintaining strict quality control.
 
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