chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
That stinks,,,,,,,,,,,, those reverb ones are too expensive for us.
Future of Bass amplification?
- Thread starter eSGEe
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The Kustom guitar and bass heads are the same. Plug it in to a bass cab, and it's a bass amp. Plug it in to a guitar cab, and it's a guitar amp.
It's true that they geared some heads more towards guitar by adding fuzz, and tremolo...but the amps are the same. They work for both. I plug mine in to that Peavey bass stack once in a while. It works great. More often I just use a GK Backline 4x10 that's more convenient in placement to its current location.
It's true that they geared some heads more towards guitar by adding fuzz, and tremolo...but the amps are the same. They work for both. I plug mine in to that Peavey bass stack once in a while. It works great. More often I just use a GK Backline 4x10 that's more convenient in placement to its current location.
Here's a page from the K250 brochure...
Same head, different cabs.
Weird eh?
I've been a fan for a little bit...not too long, but I was very curious to learn about them when I got mine.
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Same head, different cabs.
Weird eh?
I've been a fan for a little bit...not too long, but I was very curious to learn about them when I got mine.
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Hahahahaha!!!
You too can have a Kustom capable of pulling double duty!
Do it!!!
You should be aware though, the blue switches have plastic mechanisms that have been around since the early 70s. They are brittle, and are prone to mechanical failure. They can be Macguivered with zip ties and superglue, but replacements are pretty much non-existent.
I've been lazy with mine, and I use a surge plug strip to power up these days. One day I will pull that beast of a chassis out again and fix it.
While you were doing that, I just fired up my K250 head through my GK Backline 4x10, and fumbled around a bit.
Fooking awesome! Just wow!
I haven't used the Kustom for bass in quite a while. I have an old POS bass head that's a lot smaller to lug around that sits on the scrappy bass cab pile...I've been defaulting to that for a while now, and while it's ok...the Kustom has that old school hi-fi bass sound down. I fiddled around a bit, and was able to get a few other cool sounds out of it as well. Really a cool piece o kit to have on hand....but it's physically huge.
The K200 you've posted with the 3x15 cab looks pretty cool. It's not an everyday color either. If it all works, it's all there, and it's all original(except maybe a 3-pronged plug added for safety), their asking price is in the ballpark of fair.
You'd be robbing them at $200 if all 3 speakers are working along with everything in the head, and no tuck and roll damage.
If it was mine, and you made that offer, I might tell you to get stuffed like the tuck n roll on the amp...but that's just me.
Edit: I see that there is some damage so...
Fooking awesome! Just wow!
I haven't used the Kustom for bass in quite a while. I have an old POS bass head that's a lot smaller to lug around that sits on the scrappy bass cab pile...I've been defaulting to that for a while now, and while it's ok...the Kustom has that old school hi-fi bass sound down. I fiddled around a bit, and was able to get a few other cool sounds out of it as well. Really a cool piece o kit to have on hand....but it's physically huge.
The K200 you've posted with the 3x15 cab looks pretty cool. It's not an everyday color either. If it all works, it's all there, and it's all original(except maybe a 3-pronged plug added for safety), their asking price is in the ballpark of fair.
You'd be robbing them at $200 if all 3 speakers are working along with everything in the head, and no tuck and roll damage.
If it was mine, and you made that offer, I might tell you to get stuffed like the tuck n roll on the amp...but that's just me.
Edit: I see that there is some damage so...
OP
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
Don......I make retarded low offers all the time----- and I get about 10 percent of them ---but that is how I own Fender Jazz Bass for 120....flipped Fender Mim Strat bought for 30.00...sold for 300.00.......Marshal Valvestate made in England amp--45.00 -----and so on......
it is the way of the Ferengi---
the amp is tucked in a corner covered in dust--- its been in that spot (apparently ) over a year.....the retirement crowd in Winter Haven Fl. is not BIG on vintage amplification ----as they have at least 3 OTHER Kustom AMps---along with many other larger watt pieces.....
the guy doesnt "deal" much--- but knowing---as I do how long he has been holding it-----and also lets be honest its a Pawn SHop they gave some poor bastard 100.00 loan on the thing and he bought crack and never came back.......
its a dance a game --- I say 200---they say no---I turn it on--- the knobs will no doubt scratch like hell......perhaps some other issues....the tuck and roll is damaged......
I start the nit picking---- I have even walked out----(The above mentioned bass took two trips to secure) ----they may crack--- they may not.
I watched a Peavey T-20 sit in a pawn shop for 3 years........about every 3 months I would make on offer he would decline----somebody bought it at asking price--- my loss --- or was it??? I didnt want to pay fool price--
In my mind if I get it for 300 (or less) its a win eh? The HEad is worth 250-300. --- I if I dont it can sit-------like the Squire P bass he has had on the wall for 250 for the same length of time-----
The fun is in the hunt
it is the way of the Ferengi---
the amp is tucked in a corner covered in dust--- its been in that spot (apparently ) over a year.....the retirement crowd in Winter Haven Fl. is not BIG on vintage amplification ----as they have at least 3 OTHER Kustom AMps---along with many other larger watt pieces.....
the guy doesnt "deal" much--- but knowing---as I do how long he has been holding it-----and also lets be honest its a Pawn SHop they gave some poor bastard 100.00 loan on the thing and he bought crack and never came back.......
its a dance a game --- I say 200---they say no---I turn it on--- the knobs will no doubt scratch like hell......perhaps some other issues....the tuck and roll is damaged......
I start the nit picking---- I have even walked out----(The above mentioned bass took two trips to secure) ----they may crack--- they may not.
I watched a Peavey T-20 sit in a pawn shop for 3 years........about every 3 months I would make on offer he would decline----somebody bought it at asking price--- my loss --- or was it??? I didnt want to pay fool price--
In my mind if I get it for 300 (or less) its a win eh? The HEad is worth 250-300. --- I if I dont it can sit-------like the Squire P bass he has had on the wall for 250 for the same length of time-----
The fun is in the hunt
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Adrian, I got my Squier P for less than $250 brand new at the mom and pop shop. If I don't get a deal somewhere, I always like to support my local small business. In some cases it pays to shop there like how when certain High end guitars or basses might sell for $1300 elsewhere, and I get it for $999 there I feel like I did well.
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Adrian, I have no interest in what you pay, or how you negotiate(apart from entertainment value
).
Now that you've given a clear picture of the selling establishment, I can understand the strategy. I don't see too many pawn shops in my area these days.
That cab is massive.
Massive.
Fricken huge.
Ginormous.
Did you get it yet?
).Now that you've given a clear picture of the selling establishment, I can understand the strategy. I don't see too many pawn shops in my area these days.
That cab is massive.
Massive.
Fricken huge.
Ginormous.
Did you get it yet?
...and yeah, from the pictures posted....$300 would be a sweet deal if it works well enough.
I'm rooting for you!
I'm afraid to tell you what I paid for mine(or the Peavey bass stack cabs)....
Did you get it yet?
I'm rooting for you!
I'm afraid to tell you what I paid for mine(or the Peavey bass stack cabs)....
Did you get it yet?
OP
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
lol no--- I will not get back over that way for a while--- if the hurricane comes might not get over there for months----though based on its size and location inside a brick building sandwiched among other Kustom tuck and roll gear---the amp will survive lol
Don --- your truly my favorite bastard
Don --- your truly my favorite bastard
Awe shucks! I was looking forward to a tuck n roll goodness thread
sooner than later.
I also wanted to see how you were going to cram that beast in to your doom room.
I guess I will have to be patient.
sooner than later.I also wanted to see how you were going to cram that beast in to your doom room.
I guess I will have to be patient.
Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
well and so... I'm sorry to say this, because your repartee is quite entertaining and also
educational in a retro sort of way. But none of this looks like THE FUTURE of bass amplification.
It looks like the past. And the past was plenty exciting when we were young and excitable.
But those padded Custom amps remind me of the Fur Lined Chevy Vans people used to drive.
(It wasn't really fur, it was 'Shag Carpet'... and the girls who would get in that carpeted van
with you wore 'shag" haircuts... and easy access outfits...) ...until they found out you were
"only the bass player."
But this thread is about the future of Bass Amplification. So, the world wonders:
What will the bassists of the future be using? Our younger members might want to
know. I don't think that antique tube amps powering giant cabs that weigh more than
most skinny and underpaid rockers (or at least most skinny and undernourished groupies)
... will have much traction in the future.
Guitarists wax eloquent about the retro delights of tube amps... but IMHO most bassists
are not so inclined. I mean SOMEBODY in this band has to play clean. If both guitarists and the
keyboardist are stomping f/x without consulting anyone, and the drummer is hitting painful
spikes on the high hat and snares... Somebody needs to keep the whole thing grounded.
Guess who?
It might just be a personal style thing, but tube distortion seems like an unnecessary
consideration for most of us bass players. Solid state has worked fine for me since the
last tube amp I scrapped. I played solid state all through the 80s, 90s and into the
modern era. Never look back. My old Fender Bassman Compact gave good service for
more than twenty years of hard use, and thousands of miles in the minivan.
So much for the past, eh? What's in the future, if any?
That said, I would love to play through one of those padded dinosaurs. Turn it up!
educational in a retro sort of way. But none of this looks like THE FUTURE of bass amplification.
It looks like the past. And the past was plenty exciting when we were young and excitable.
But those padded Custom amps remind me of the Fur Lined Chevy Vans people used to drive.
(It wasn't really fur, it was 'Shag Carpet'... and the girls who would get in that carpeted van
with you wore 'shag" haircuts... and easy access outfits...) ...until they found out you were
"only the bass player."
But this thread is about the future of Bass Amplification. So, the world wonders:
What will the bassists of the future be using? Our younger members might want to
know. I don't think that antique tube amps powering giant cabs that weigh more than
most skinny and underpaid rockers (or at least most skinny and undernourished groupies)
... will have much traction in the future.
Guitarists wax eloquent about the retro delights of tube amps... but IMHO most bassists
are not so inclined. I mean SOMEBODY in this band has to play clean. If both guitarists and the
keyboardist are stomping f/x without consulting anyone, and the drummer is hitting painful
spikes on the high hat and snares... Somebody needs to keep the whole thing grounded.
Guess who?
It might just be a personal style thing, but tube distortion seems like an unnecessary
consideration for most of us bass players. Solid state has worked fine for me since the
last tube amp I scrapped. I played solid state all through the 80s, 90s and into the
modern era. Never look back. My old Fender Bassman Compact gave good service for
more than twenty years of hard use, and thousands of miles in the minivan.
So much for the past, eh? What's in the future, if any?
That said, I would love to play through one of those padded dinosaurs. Turn it up!
OP
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
Well ---
Frankly its MUCH easier and CHEAPER to go SS on bass......and it works---
I have tried to find an AFFORDABLE tube bass amp--- not---
Mostly (IMHO) because as a bassist you want clear tone--- clean deep tone--- not distortion or break up --- you want to sonically MOVE stuff.....buildings, 78 Buicks.....womens clothes off---- you know stuff.
Tubes take a CRAP TON more $$$$ and power to accomplish this task.
Frankly its MUCH easier and CHEAPER to go SS on bass......and it works---
I have tried to find an AFFORDABLE tube bass amp--- not---
Mostly (IMHO) because as a bassist you want clear tone--- clean deep tone--- not distortion or break up --- you want to sonically MOVE stuff.....buildings, 78 Buicks.....womens clothes off---- you know stuff.
Tubes take a CRAP TON more $$$$ and power to accomplish this task.
gasket
Ambassador of the Guitarded
Do tell me more about this, with pictures ;-)