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Legendary music producer Quincy Jones dished on what he really thinks of some of his most famous collaborators, from The Beatles to Michael Jackson, in a wide-ranging interview with Vulture.

Though they're widely regarded as one of the greatest bands to ever play, Jones' first impression of The Beatles was hardly complimentary.

In fact, his initial reaction to the mop-top Liverpudlians was that "they were the worst musicians in the world. They were no-playing mother f**kers."

He took particular issue with Paul McCartney's bass-playing skills ("Paul was the worst bass player I ever heard") and Ringo's drumming ("Don't even talk about it").

Jones recalled a particular studio session in 1970 in which he was working on a version of "Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing" for Starr's debut studio album.

The producer said Starr was trying — and failing — for hours to master "a four-bar thing" and couldn't perfect it, so Jones suggested he "get some lager and lime, some shepherd's pie" and take a time out.

While Starr was gone, Jones said he called up jazz drummer Ronnie Verrell to master the bit in 15 minutes — and when Starr heard it, he was impressed.

"I said, 'Yeah, mother f**ker, because it ain't you,'" Jones recalled.

Jones did have some positive things to say about the state of music today, despite gripes that most modern artists don't have enough musical knowledge to create decent work.

He praised Bruno Mars, Chance the Rapper, Kendrick Lamar, Ed Sheeran and Sam Smith, among others.

"I like where Kendrick's mind is. He's grounded. Chance, too," Jones said. "And the Ed Sheeran record is great. Sam Smith — he's so open about being gay. I love it. Mark Ronson is someone who knows how to produce."

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Rachel Desantis

Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 6:04 PM
 
Was never really a fan of the guy, he has a terribly heavy-handed approach, and this just cements in my mind that he is not only a douchebag but a douchebag that does not and never did know that much about what makes music great.
 
Robert Herndon said:
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The whole thing betrays a conceit that he has clearly had for years: that he only understands Jazz stylings and tries to apply that as the standard to everything he does (including funk if you look back at his credits). Ringo Starr is one of the most brilliant drummers any one of us has ever heard, but a Jazz drummer he ain't. To apply that stylistic standard vs. someone so singular and declare it "better" somehow is to reveal your own limited scope.
 
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gball said:
The whole thing betrays a conceit that he has clearly had for years: that he only understands Jazz stylings and tries to apply that as the standard to everything he does (including funk if you look back at his credits). Ringo Starr is one of the most brilliant drummers any one of us has ever heard, but a Jazz drummer he ain't. To apply that stylistic standard vs. someone so singular and declare it "better" somehow is to reveal your own limited scope.
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100 years from now, people will know who the "Fab 4" were...and they will ask the question, "Quincy Who?"
 
Off on a tangent time.

I have, over the years, grown quite tired of the
never ending blown completely out of proportion
"Beatle worship" that permeates our society.

They were NOT the be all end all ultimate no one will ever come close greatest band that ever was yaddayadda etc.
In my opinion Lennon McCartney were NOT the greatest be all end all Gods gift to music songwriters of all time.
They were OK and wrote some catchy stuff. So did George Harrison, Steve Allen and "the classical guys".
(Ludwig, Amadeus, Johann, Igor and that gang.) Carol King wrote everything else.
Tommy Tedesco and his crew played on pretty much everything else.

The Beatles got drug greedy and broke up. Lennon's head got so big no one else could fit in the room.
The Rolling Stones are still out there playing. So are some of the bands that were around before the Beatles.
John Lennon decided they were "bigger than Jesus". Maybe so since "Beatle worship" seems to be
a religion for some people. They were just another guitar band from England. No more, no less.
I guess they did that SRV thing and got better after they started dying.

Quincy Jones is an a$$hole in my book by the way.
Always has been.
 
Tony M. said:
They were NOT the be all end all ultimate no one will ever come close greatest band that ever was yaddayadda etc.
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OF COURSE NOT------
THAT

Was LED ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HUMINA HUMINA HUMINA 00--- she is a great comedic actress as well.......for a goofy cop spoof show...
 
It surprises me when a person who has worked in the music business for so long, and especially in a position like Quincy Jones has, comes out ans basically slags off influential and big artists like he has done here. The Beatles were not a group of technically great musicians, everybody knows that, but when did technical ability automatically equal great songwriting and the ability to capture people's imagination or stirr people's feelings? I really hope this is an example of someone's intent being twisted by the journalist. I mean, you dont have to love the Beatles, hell, you don't even have to love them to see their greatness. I never liked Michael Jackson's music (unless we are talking about the beer writer by the same name, he is my hero), but there is no denying he was brilliant at what he did.
 
Gahr said:
It surprises me when a person who has worked in the music business for so long, and especially in a position like Quincy Jones has, comes out ans basically slags off influential and big artists like he has done here. The Beatles were not a group of technically great musicians, everybody knows that, but when did technical ability automatically equal great songwriting and the ability to capture people's imagination or stirr people's feelings? I really hope this is an example of someone's intent being twisted by the journalist. I mean, you dont have to love the Beatles, hell, you don't even have to love them to see their greatness. I never liked Michael Jackson's music (unless we are talking about the beer writer by the same name, he is my hero), but there is no denying he was brilliant at what he did.
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From the same article:

Quincy Jones, the legendary music producer who frequently collaborated with Michael Jackson, has accused the late King Of Pop of plagiarism.

'I hate to get into this publicly, but Michael stole a lot of stuff. He stole a lot of songs,' Quincy sensationally told Vulture, the culture site of New York magazine.

'The notes don't lie, man. He was as Machiavellian as they come,' said 85-year-old Quincy, who has 27 Grammy Awards to his name.

Few listeners would immediately associate the two songs, although both open and are built on unusually lengthy synthesized bass lines.

Quincy also said Jackson was 'greedy' and should have given partial writing credit to keyboardist Greg Phillinganes for his song Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough.

'Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - Greg Phillinganes wrote the c section,' Quincy insisted. 'Michael should’ve given him 10 percent of the song. Wouldn’t do it.'

While chatting to Vulture, Quincy was equally candid about Michael's personal issues, saying he had raised concern to the singer over his plastic surgery.

'I used to kill him about the plastic surgery, man. He’d always justify it and say it was because of some disease he had. Bulls***,' said Quincy.

According to the music producer, the Thriller singer 'had a problem with his looks because his father told him he was ugly and abused him. What do you expect?'
 
Robert Herndon said:
From the same article:

Quincy Jones, the legendary music producer who frequently collaborated with Michael Jackson, has accused the late King Of Pop of plagiarism.

'I hate to get into this publicly, but Michael stole a lot of stuff. He stole a lot of songs,' Quincy sensationally told Vulture, the culture site of New York magazine.

'The notes don't lie, man. He was as Machiavellian as they come,' said 85-year-old Quincy, who has 27 Grammy Awards to his name.

Few listeners would immediately associate the two songs, although both open and are built on unusually lengthy synthesized bass lines.

Quincy also said Jackson was 'greedy' and should have given partial writing credit to keyboardist Greg Phillinganes for his song Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough.

'Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - Greg Phillinganes wrote the c section,' Quincy insisted. 'Michael should’ve given him 10 percent of the song. Wouldn’t do it.'

While chatting to Vulture, Quincy was equally candid about Michael's personal issues, saying he had raised concern to the singer over his plastic surgery.

'I used to kill him about the plastic surgery, man. He’d always justify it and say it was because of some disease he had. Bulls***,' said Quincy.

According to the music producer, the Thriller singer 'had a problem with his looks because his father told him he was ugly and abused him. What do you expect?'
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You didn't need to know Jackson to see that he had severe issues. He was as crazy as they come, but I still think he was a genius. If QJ feels the need so slag him off, I don't care, but I know who ends up sounding like a sourpuss, and it isn't MJ...
 
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