EQ Plug Ins

[ibmorjamn]

If I were submitting it to be mastered, amongst other things, I’d clean it up with some EQ on the stems, and take the limiter off the master to leave the dynamics(and some headroom)for the mastering tech to play with. Mastering is a different rabbit hole altogether….VooDoo magic. Expensive gear.

I do like the song a lot. It is collectively good but the vocals once mastered I bet would be even better. It already sounds good and all sits well in the mix . I like how the guitar track ends!

 

[Thatbastarddon]

I do like the song a lot. It is collectively good but the vocals once mastered I bet would be even better. It already sounds good and all sits well in the mix . I like how the guitar track ends!

I’ve gotta say….Thanks!
Please bear in mind the literal “quick & dirty” concept of this song. I was writing the melody and rhythm of the lyric as I recorded. Super “off the cuff”, hence the wandering/warbling lines. I put down two tracks, liked both intro “Ohio howls”, liked the first verse on take 1 over take two, and liked the second verse on take two better than take one…hence the edits seen in the screenshot. Kept both “Ohio howls”, and one verse for each track. I don’t particularly like the vocals much, for their lack of confidence(in my perception). Singing while seated is usually very bad.
The ending was funny…I ran out of drum track in the final resolve, looked at how long the song was, and went with it.
Yes…I programmed the whole drum track after I wrote the chromatic descending guitar riff to one of the drum loops used. After I built the drum track, I wrote the rest of the guitar parts, decided how it should be arranged, scribbled some lyrics(chickened out on two lines to be sung over the end of the chromatic riff), and put it all down…only to find that I kinda wanted another couple of measures in the end, but then the “choke out” seemed kinda funny.
So….Thanks again!

 

[ibmorjamn]

I’ve gotta say….Thanks!
Please bear in mind the literal “quick & dirty” concept of this song. I was writing the melody and rhythm of the lyric as I recorded. Super “off the cuff”, hence the wandering/warbling lines. I put down two tracks, liked both intro “Ohio howls”, liked the first verse on take 1 over take two, and liked the second verse on take two better than take one…hence the edits seen in the screenshot. Kept both “Ohio howls”, and one verse for each track. I don’t particularly like the vocals much, for their lack of confidence(in my perception). Singing while seated is usually very bad.
The ending was funny…I ran out of drum track in the final resolve, looked at how long the song was, and went with it.
Yes…I programmed the whole drum track after I wrote the chromatic descending guitar riff to one of the drum loops used. After I built the drum track, I wrote the rest of the guitar parts, decided how it should be arranged, scribbled some lyrics(chickened out on two lines to be sung over the end of the chromatic riff), and put it all down…only to find that I kinda wanted another couple of measures in the end, but then the “choke out” seemed kinda funny.
So….Thanks again!

I could use some help with ez drummer. You say are you writing midi tracks. How do you edit ?

 

[Thatbastarddon]

I could use some help with ez drummer. You are you writing midi tracks. How do you edit ?

In that one, I used the song builder, and rearranged the stock loops it chose from the root one it was based on. I tend to keep it simple, and use stock loops…I may modify them, a bit. But I’m usually just looking to keep time…nothing flashy. I’m not that good with it, but I can get around. Sequencing midi is not on my list of “fun stuff”. Sometimes, I might actually program the midi in Reaper, and strap EZD on to read/play it..adjusting velocities to taste as I go…tedious stuff. I usually just want it to count to 3, 4, 6, 7, 11, or 12, in an entertaining manner. I hate tempo mapping, but should learn to deal with it to make things sound less mechanized.

We could take a discussion like that to a PM, for a bit of shared learning.

 

[ibmorjamn]

In that one, I used the song builder, and rearranged the stock loops it chose from the root on it was based on. I tend to keep it simple, and use stock loops…I may modify them, a bit. But I’m usually just looking to keep time…nothing flashy. I’m not that good with it, but I can get around. Sequencing midi is not on my list of “fun stuff”. Sometimes, I might actually program the midi in Reaper, and strap EZD on to read/play it..adjusting velocities to taste as I go…tedious stuff. I usually just want it to count to 3, 4, 6, 7, 11, or 12, in an entertaining manner. I hate tempo mapping, but should learn to deal with it to make things sound less mechanized.

We could take a discussion like that to a PM, for a bit of shared learning.

Sounds like a plan. I really like the discussion.

 

[GabrielGuitar]

Hi, maybe my info can help
there are 5 types of EQs, Graphic, Parametric, Shelving, Linear Phase, Dynamic

dynamic EQs with the rest of the bells and whistles swapping between analogue digital analysis etc are very diverse, this idea has been ported over to AI technology as we can see with Sonible Smart EQ., regardless of this the questions becomes what applications you need the specific eqs, during the audio capturing stage after a preamp, before a guitar as a boost and or to scoop, between a guitar pre amp and amp fx chain, bus-mastering etc etc Yet all those applications i mentioned dont even include coloring…so while its easy to suggest one eq for all its never the solution once you realize you need to tweak something inside the mix.

fabfilter Pro EQ has def been the top, i dont use it as much as others but if im in trouble i do.

waves f6 and h-eq are something to check out

i like focusrite red stuff on guitars, no one agrees but i get the neve-ish tad in their,
PA or UAD Maag 4 has been my fav for boosting synths, api stile boost eq making the synths brutally aggressive.

PA Amek, Kirchoff, are my fav PA aside maag 4

Kuch Clariphonic dspmkii is interesting

uad pultec

eventide split eq is amazing

Oeksound sooth2 is effective And like fabfilter a must

Oxford Dynamic

then you have match eqs,
-fabfilter does a good job,
-eventide ??

20-80hz sub bass
100-250hz boom
200-300hz body
700hz strings
2-5k hz presense
10k hz air

maag and split eq adds an air type function

based on all this info, a fraction nerdy bunch info that is, its enough to work with even if you have ears suffering from fatigue …and as mentioned over and over here most eqs built into daws like Logic, reaper, pro tools are usually very good and enough.

 

[ibmorjamn]

Hi, maybe my info can help
there are 5 types of EQs, Graphic, Parametric, Shelving, Linear Phase, Dynamic

dynamic EQs with the rest of the bells and whistles swapping between analogue digital analysis etc are very diverse, this idea has been ported over to AI technology as we can see with Sonible Smart EQ., regardless of this the questions becomes what applications you need the specific eqs, during the audio capturing stage after a preamp, before a guitar as a boost and or to scoop, between a guitar pre amp and amp fx chain, bus-mastering etc etc Yet all those applications i mentioned dont even include coloring…so while its easy to suggest one eq for all its never the solution once you realize you need to tweak something inside the mix.

fabfilter Pro EQ has def been the top, i dont use it as much as others but if im in trouble i do.

waves f6 and h-eq are something to check out

i like focusrite red stuff on guitars, no one agrees but i get the neve-ish tad in their,
PA or UAD Maag 4 has been my fav for boosting synths, api stile boost eq making the synths brutally aggressive.

PA Amek, Kirchoff, are my fav PA aside maag 4

Kuch Clariphonic dspmkii is interesting

uad pultec

eventide split eq is amazing

Oeksound sooth2 is effective And like fabfilter a must

Oxford Dynamic

then you have match eqs,
-fabfilter does a good job,
-eventide ??

20-80hz sub bass
100-250hz boom
200-300hz body
700hz strings
2-5k hz presense
10k hz air

maag and split eq adds an air type function

based on all this info, a fraction nerdy bunch info that is, its enough to work with even if you have ears suffering from fatigue …and as mentioned over and over here most eqs built into daws like Logic, reaper, pro tools are usually very good and enough.

Good info. The last paragraph is maybe the most helpful because I did find my DAW has good plugins. No big names but they do what I need.