Does It Flow, Or Does It Blow... Wrap Bridge for my SG PT

[syscokid]

PART 1:

Don't know why I obsess over silly stuff like this, but I guess that's me! In regards to my 2011 Gibson 50th Anniversary PT SG (Special), what soon bugged me about tuning it, was the limitations of the iconic and original lightning bolt wraparound bridge. But darn, if it didn't give this guitar a nice musical vibe. Evidence as presented:

Notice the amount of compensation and the high E bridge point which it's even with the center mark of the bridge post. It should have an extended distance, but it's a compromise and who the Hell plays 'fee-fee chords' on the 12th fret when comes to rock n' roll!



I know it's tilted and doesn't look very appealing, but is it really a negative? Yes, I thought so...ugh!


Then again, it does look pretty cool!


End of Part 1... PART 2 & 3 to follow quickly...

 

[syscokid]

PART 2... Wait for PART 3, dammit!

Enter Schroeder products from Redding, Crazyfornia. Killer and beautiful stuff from these guys! But...... unfortunately with this guitar's 25 1/2" scale length and what might appear to be a Gibson choice to reduce the distance between the nut, and the bass and treble side bridge posts on certain models a while back. Rumors are 1/3rd of an inch! WTF? If anybody has some more knowledge on, then please contribute.

Notice compensation from the bridge posts:


Schroeder's beautiful Locking Stud systems works well:


Looks good to me:


PART 3 coming....

 

[67plexi]

The stock Gibson bridge on my 2000 Les Paul JR never bonded with that guitar it just sounds off
I have two PRS guitars with wraparound bridge 24.594 scale every note rings true

I was looking at this bridge for my Les Paul JR

"The Savvy" - Compensated wraparound tailpiece - Music City Bridge

The Savvy Bridge is a compensated wraparound tailpiece compatible with a vast majority of wraptail guitars. The Savvy is a direct replacement guitar bridge used by professional musicians to make their wraparound guitars (Gibson Jrs, Specials, Melody Makers, etc...) playable on stage and in the...

musiccitybridge.com

 

[syscokid]

Whew, finally!

Lord help me, I've been researching again... . I almost ordered a Pigtail, which looks nice and has a big intonation range:


BUT...

Out of the blue, I decided to try StewMac's Golden Age Low Profile Wraparound Bridge. As you can see, it has a much more meatier contact going on:



Very tight tolerances between the bridge and studs and the original bushings:



The Southern curve of the StewMac bridge is sexy and compliments the ass of the SG:

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Followed the installation with Biddlin's foolproof setup method, and there's a nice Honeymoon going on right now!

 

[Thatbastarddon]

Whew, finally!

Lord help me, I've been researching again... . I almost ordered a Pigtail, which looks nice and has a big intonation range:
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BUT...

Out of the blue, I decided to try StewMac's Golden Age Low Profile Wraparound Bridge. As you can see, it's a much more meatier contact going on:
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Very tight tolerances between the bridge and studs and the original bushings:
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The Southern curve of the StewMac bridge is sexy and compliments the ass of the SG:
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Followed the installation with Biddlin's foolproof setup method, and there's a nice Honeymoon going on right now!

Diggin’ it immensely!!!

 

[C-Grin]

Cool, hope it works for you, but I can't stop staring at the blue sparkle amp.

 

[syscokid]

Cool, hope it works for you, but I can't stop staring at the blue sparkle amp.

Ha ha! That’s an old project that needs full completion with a pair of chassis faceplates, which just happens to be scheduled for delivery very soon. I ordered 2 pairs for two different amps. This will be my first time doing business with Ms Sandy Henry of Precision Design

 

[syscokid]

I have two PRS guitars with wraparound bridge 24.594 scale every note rings true

If I measure from the nut’s front edge to the top edge of the 12th fret, I get 12.25” for a 24.5” scale. If I measure from the nut to the middle of the 12th fret, I get 312 mm, or 12.2835” for a 24.567” scale. I’m guessing the second method is the correct way, right?

 

[DirtySteve]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that!

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

If I measure from the nut’s front edge to the top edge of the 12th fret, I get 12.25” for a 24.5” scale. If I measure from the nut to the middle of the 12th fret, I get 312 mm, or 12.2835” for a 24.567” scale. I’m guessing the second method is the correct way, right?

Yes you measure to the middle of the fret.

 

[Thatbastarddon]

To the crown.

 

[smitty_p]

If I measure from the nut’s front edge to the top edge of the 12th fret, I get 12.25” for a 24.5” scale. If I measure from the nut to the middle of the 12th fret, I get 312 mm, or 12.2835” for a 24.567” scale. I’m guessing the second method is the correct way, right?

Yes, the second method is correct, and this reveals something misleading about Gibson's marketing:

They do not build guitars with a 24.75" scale length.

In fact, Gibson hasn't made a true 24.75" scale guitar for many decades.

Here's a Stew-Mac article that talks a little about it:

Scale Length Explained - StewMac

Scale Length Explained

www.stewmac.com

 

[gball]

On 4 of my Les Pauls, the measurement from the nut to the center of the low E saddle (when properly intonated) is exactly 24.75. Another within 1/16". If I measure to the center of the 12th fret I come up with the same 24-9/16 measurement listed by StewMac. So go figure.

The '79 is totally its own thing.