Dead Horse - Vintage vs Modern wiring

SG John hit the nail on the head, it's true, everybody hears it differently! I loathe, especially at my age along with hearing it my whole life " Why do you need so many guitars/amps " , same answer all my life " Each one is totally different from another, it's like apples and oranges " they just don't see the forest for the trees , I guess? It's such a heavy cross to bear .... but I love it! @ gearaholics. com
 
Vox AC30 said:
SG John hit the nail on the head, it's true, everybody hears it differently! I loathe, especially at my age along with hearing it my whole life " Why do you need so many guitars/amps " , same answer all my life " Each one is totally different from another, it's like apples and oranges " they just don't see the forest for the trees , I guess? It's such a heavy cross to bear .... but I love it! @ gearaholics. com
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Thanks. Back when I actually had time to spend with my guitars, I made sure that I knew them intimately. I wanted to know the little nuances of why a Les Paul would sound a bit more on the wild side than an SG. Or why I could get such raunch out of my SG and not my Les Paul. Or why one of my Strats would sound killer on a recorded track, and my other wouldn't for that particular song. Or why my Firebird could create a bit more of a haunting sound than a P90 loaded SG. I always went for what sounded best under many circumstances. Especially since I was playing in a band quite often. I was going for the best sound that worked with the other people I played with, not what sounded good in my den or bedroom.

Like you said apples and bananas. I wish I had that same kind of time to spend with my guitars and amps now.
 
SG John said:
Thanks. Back when I actually had time to spend with my guitars, I made sure that I knew them intimately. I wanted to know the little nuances of why a Les Paul would sound a bit more on the wild side than an SG. Or why I could get such raunch out of my SG and not my Les Paul. Or why one of my Strats would sound killer on a recorded track, and my other wouldn't for that particular song. Or why my Firebird could create a bit more of a haunting sound than a P90 loaded SG. I always went for what sounded best under many circumstances. Especially since I was playing in a band quite often. I was going for the best sound that worked with the other people I played with, not what sounded good in my den or bedroom.

Like you said apples and bananas. I wish I had that same kind of time to spend with my guitars and amps now.
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Same here bro, I can barely squeeze in a hour a day if i’m lucky
 
Mitch Pearrow SJMP said:
Same here bro, I can barely squeeze in a hour a day if i’m lucky
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I'm down to about an hour a week. I'm at a hotel in Buffalo for work right now. I'll be home (Boston) on Friday.

I need a good travel guitar. A local pawn shop has a Pee Vee. One of those little Epiphone Flying V things. It'll fit in my suitcase, so I should grab it. I've been holding out for an original Earlwine Chiquita travel guitar, but those are hard to find.
 
SG John said:
I'm down to about an hour a week. I'm at a hotel in Buffalo for work right now. I'll be home (Boston) on Friday.

I need a good travel guitar. A local pawn shop has a Pee Vee. One of those little Epiphone Flying V things. It'll fit in my suitcase, so I should grab it. I've been holding out for an original Earlwine Chiquita travel guitar, but those are hard to find.
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About 3 years ago I tried taking a guitar with me to learn some Trower after work at the motel I was at and the flipping internet wouldn’t work, I have since given up on that idea.
My commute to and from work is a bitch, when I get home I want to unwind a bit and then the things I slack off at home rear there ugly head and I run out of time!
Cheers Mitch
 
Vox AC30 said:
SG John hit the nail on the head, it's true, everybody hears it differently! I loathe, especially at my age along with hearing it my whole life " Why do you need so many guitars/amps " , same answer all my life " Each one is totally different from another, it's like apples and oranges " they just don't see the forest for the trees , I guess? It's such a heavy cross to bear .... but I love it! @ gearaholics. com
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Interesting...

I spent many years trying to nail a particular tone. At some point, I realized that it would require a Les Paul and a Marshall tube amp, but I never really liked how a Les Paul felt. So, I bought one and played it day and night, wearing the frets flat in a year. That guitar became an extension of myself, to such a degree that I dont like playing anything else. I purged every other guitar except my custom double neck.

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Then, I added a second Les Paul that felt like the first one. This is a Les Paul Custom replica we built here in a backyard workshop in Rancho Cucamonga. Its setup exactly the same as my "Number One."

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But, I wanted a third Les Paul so I could rotate through them during a performance rather than dick around with mid-set tuning.

Then, I ended up with a Chinese Replica of a 59 Les Paul that Adrian had. It has one of the nicest tops I have ever seen, excellent overall build quality, good neck angle and dimensionally correct. It also received the same pickups, electronics and general setup as the other two...right down to capacitor values.

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Then, I added a second DSL40C amp...LOL

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Everything else feels and sounds foreign to me, so it all got liquidated.

Sometimes, I play a studio-owned Telecaster on a recording for hire and I can hardly stand it, but it's my job so I do my best. It feels and sounds uncomfortable to me

I never get tired of something I like...
 
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SG John said:
I'm down to about an hour a week. I'm at a hotel in Buffalo for work right now. I'll be home (Boston) on Friday.

I need a good travel guitar. A local pawn shop has a Pee Vee. One of those little Epiphone Flying V things. It'll fit in my suitcase, so I should grab it. I've been holding out for an original Earlwine Chiquita travel guitar, but those are hard to find.
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Here's what you do: Buy a used Telecaster, and get it set up just the way you like 'em.
Find a luthier who can do this job: Drill out the holes for the neck screws, and install steel
threaded inserts. Then you can take the neck off and pack it into a special case that
holds the guitar body and the neck in separate compartments. This fits in the overhead
compartments of an airliner.

Of course you can take the neck off any Tele and pack it in an airline approved carry on
and put it back on when you've landed. But the steel inserts will save on wear in the screw
holes, and stop any worries. This is Bill Kerchen's method of travel. He gets to his hotel,
screws his Tele back together and is ready to rock. Combine this with a Pignose amp
and you can play while on business. *grins
 
Col Mustard said:
Here's what you do: Buy a used Telecaster, and get it set up just the way you like 'em.
Find a luthier who can do this job: Drill out the holes for the neck screws, and install steel
threaded inserts. Then you can take the neck off and pack it into a special case that
holds the guitar body and the neck in separate compartments. This fits in the overhead
compartments of an airliner.

Of course you can take the neck off any Tele and pack it in an airline approved carry on
and put it back on when you've landed. But the steel inserts will save on wear in the screw
holes, and stop any worries. This is Bill Kerchen's method of travel. He gets to his hotel,
screws his Tele back together and is ready to rock. Combine this with a Pignose amp
and you can play while on business. *grins
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I normally would do that with a Stratocaster and a 9V battery powered Orange Crush amp. If I get one of the two jobs that are being offered to me next week, I'll be working regionally and home 90% of the time. Then, if I actually do stay in hotels, I'll be driving and I can take a Gibson and my Vox Pathfinder with me. We'll see, time will tell.
 
Here's a 1000 watt (with power amp added) HF transceiver I got very familiar with...got an RF burn all the way through my thumb from one of these...

Top view looks nice and clean. Bottom side, not so much. You sure do learn how to solder though!

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Sp8ctre said:
Here's a 1000 watt (with power amp added) HF transceiver I got very familiar with...got an RF burn all the way through my thumb from one of these...

Top view looks nice and clean. Bottom side, not so much. You sure do learn how to solder though!

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Somewhat off topic from Chas's original post but Chris, do these look like anything that you've come across in your military electronics experience.
A friend & I pooled our resources about 10 years ago and bought about 15 of these military surplus amplifiers.
They were all individually sealed in tarpaper packaging with the test paperwork & desiccant packs, and with tubes installed.



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We paid $150 for the lot & I managed to sell most on Ebay for over a hundred bucks each.
But we never knew what the amplifiers were for.
 
Hackmaster said:
Somewhat off topic from Chas's original post but Chris, do these look like anything that you've come across in your military electronics experience.
A friend & I pooled our resources about 10 years ago and bought about 15 of these military surplus amplifiers.
They were all individually sealed in tarpaper packaging with the test paperwork & desiccant packs, and with tubes installed.



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We paid $150 for the lot & I managed to sell most on Ebay for over a hundred bucks each.
But we never knew what the amplifiers were for.
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That spec sheet says 6L6 tubes, has to be good for something! You have any left? I'm sure all the caps are shot, but replaceable. Maybe good for a stereo or mono power amp...
 
Sp8ctre said:
That spec sheet says 6L6 tubes, has to be good for something! You have any left? I'm sure all the caps are shot, but replaceable. Maybe good for a stereo or mono power amp...
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Sadly none are left, but we made a tidy profit.:dood:
I just found my notes from the EBay sales.
They had three 6L6G Coke bottle tubes, a 5U4G, a 6N7GT, and a 6SJ7GT

Just curious if they were audio in origin.
 
gball said:
Exactly why I prefer modern wiring. I actually find the slight treble rolloff quite useful for backing down into the mix and then popping in front for a solo or other emphasis, whereas the volume rolloff with granddad's wiring es no bueno. There is a reason they changed it after all.
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I’m beginning to feel the same as you. I’ve changed a couple guitars to ‘50s wiring, and I’ve gone back to modern on at least one.
 
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