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Ok, I actually DO have a project going on that may end up EP size but could grow to Album size. I'm old AF but I have a pop punk voice a lot of the time. I have certainly thought about a mic preamp for vocals but it never has risen to a level of importance that makes me open my wallet. But, CURSE YOU ALL, I'm thinking about preamps again. But........I own am M-Audio DMP3. I bought it for lunch money years back mainly to be able to add a couple of tracks to the number of XLR inputs.

Reading about cheap preamps I looked up my little preamp and it has a good reputation. I guess I will just try it.

Bye the way...............CURSE YOU ALL!!!

Regards,
Dado
 
LiveeviL2000 said:
Well. That’s an easy fix. Ditch the astronomy gear. Replace it with musical gear, stop looking at the stars and reach the stars through music.
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Nah, I live alone with an awesome cat. The astro gear is going to be pared down a bit, the music gear is, quite frankly, just enough to record and release and practice. I need to play more gigs, and maybe rejoin the Astro Club. I did early retirement about a year and a half ago and I am trying to figure out what to do with all this time.......
 
I try to do a PSA for new members, but all youse guys and gals stormed the gates and I just sat on the sidelines. So here it is:

If ya’ll hang around here for a while, you WILL have more gear a year from now.

And if you start a thread like “Should I get this?”, every response is going to be YES!
 
Don O said:
I try to do a PSA for new members, but all youse guys and gals stormed the gates and I just sat on the sidelines. So here it is:

If ya’ll hang around here for a while, you WILL have more gear a year from now.

And if you start a thread like “Should I get this?”, every response is going to be YES!
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That's all normal interwebs protocol.

Many of us that have some stuff, accumulated it over 40 years or more. We have gear. Some of us have gear but are also really cheap. Not naming names....(Dado)
 
Preamp for vocals? Do you mean to add FX or something when playing live? I'm just curious cause never heard of that before and I do a lot of singing both live and for recordings...
 
Mad_Hater said:
Preamp for vocals? Do you mean to add FX or something when playing live? I'm just curious cause never heard of that before and I do a lot of singing both live and for recordings...
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Since the smarty pants peeps have not posted, I will give you what I know and understand. Disclaimer, as seen on earlier posts: I am not an expert!!

Ok, first of all, you have been using preamps when you are singing in a mic, and there is a cable and it's plugged in to a mixer or recording interface. So, they are there, just not a thing that you necessarily think about. Those mixers and interfaces have a mic preamp behind each of those xlr channels but, since they have to make a profit, the 8 preamps on my Tascam interface are not amazing. They're not horrible, but they are not pristine, clean and amazing. Same with mixers, bunch of preamps in there. But, those preamps are just set and can't be adjusted. Microphones differ in what they need to sound their best and using a preamp, as I intend to do for the next recordings of songs, will let me have some control for boosting the output of the mic, which is pretty small, up to a good level going in to an interface. But the other part of this is that while I have preamps good enough for recording in my interface, are OK but they don't ADD anything. Some Preamps, due to their architecture, actually are not totally transparent. They ADD some color. Sometimes it's color that people dig, sometimes not. But when you talk about great sounds, a lot of them were due to the preamp they were going through.

This is not perfect or complete but what I am interested in something that can give my a bit more girth, size, presence on vocals. I am hoping, that the incremental progress I have made recording/mixing and so on, will include better vocals. Fingers crossed.
 
Mad_Hater said:
This is me singing straight into a Tascam DAW...

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Nicely done. I never said you HAVE to use an external preamp. :p So far all the things that I have released I have not used an external preamp while recording. I do think we might mess with this little preamp on vocals. When the music gets loud and noisy and with busy instrument parts, might help a vocal ride on top of the mix. Might not too but it's time to try. My bassist and I are both audio production nerds and we have fun just trying out mics and stuff. Obviously, we have no social life.
 
So…you have a preamp laying around that might work out for you @Dado …that’s excellent news. I’ve read about your efforts to record drums, now vocals too…wicked fun stuff. Do you have any compressors laying around? Something you can put in line, after the preamp…Those can work some magic on vocals, kick drum, snare, bass….you get the idea…
Regardless…best of luck.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
So…you have a preamp laying around that might work out for you @Dado …that’s excellent news. I’ve read about your efforts to record drums, now vocals too…wicked fun stuff. Do you have any compressors laying around? Something you can put in line, after the preamp…Those can work some magic on vocals, kick drum, snare, bass….you get the idea…
Regardless…best of luck.
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I do not. As far as I can tell, Scott Baxendale owns ALL OF THEM, LEAVING NONE FOR THE REST OF US!!!!! I have mixed feelings about that. I am pretty happy with using plugins, it's just that hope to get a better vocal song. It's kind of different, in my opinion, from the rest of mixing and if it maybe had some character that the rest didn't it might help, or not. Who knows???
 
OK, to clarify: I do fine with my dear old Tascam interface using no external preamps but I am interested in trying an external preamp for vocals. Easy peasy.

I will admit that when other people are talking about their preamps, I get jealous, but hey, I'm jealous of a lot of things without having to acquire them.
 
Bought my GAP 73 (neve style)new only 299 & found my JoeMeek 6Q(optical old school) for 125. They gave me the 2 warmish but still gritty when needed. I dont like color or compression in my recording chain cause i spend all the time making the tone to come out the speaker basically..so i can repeat perform live when needed.

Not knowing anything up till then..these 2 devices completely made my recordings in a way. They seem to be able to bring to digi world the warmth & fullness that i hear in the room.
 
RunDown said:
I thought you had an 8i8 FocusRite? The preamp in those have a good pedigree. @simoncroft had an article about it at one time.
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Yeah, I've been using a Saffire Pro 26 for a few years now. The preamps – and indeed all the electronics – in Focusrite interfaces has an nice, open sound. My current one is the only one I bought new. All the others I've picked up on ebay, or similar, when I needed more inputs. When my needs changed, I moved on. As long as you buy wisely and/or keep what you bought and get years of use from it, recording doesn't have to be a money pit. Personally, I'd be more tempted to change the entire interface than buy just a mic preamp, because you'll still have to go through your existing interface otherwise…
 
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