Can Your Meat Diet Kill You???

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Well, I have been thinking about this a lot...for a couple of years actually, but the recent move "What The Health," and learning more and more about Phil Collen's health regiment, finally gave me the push I needed.

I have eaten almost a total meat (steak, carne asada) and cheese (quesadillas etc) diet for many, many years. Thankfully, at 51, I still weigh 225 (I am 6'-2") and take no medications. However, I saw some amazing health benefits from dropping meat altogether.

For years, I have wondered if our consumption of animal products, as a society, was responsible for so many health problems. This film really drove the point home and I encourage everyone to watch it. The money the food industry spends to conceal the true health risks of animal products is amazing. Internal emails from the American Egg Board were released in which upper level management actually discussed having an egg substitute CEO assassinated and the directors of the American Cancer Society, American Diabetes Association and The American Heart Association all refused to be interviewed. People with cancer have reversed their symptoms after eliminating meat, without chemotherapy and you will meet them in this presentation.

It is amazing how people have transformed in only 2 weeks, including eliminating their medication...because the medication treats only the symptom, not the cause.

I was shocked to learn that sugar intake does not cause diabetes - it only aggravates the symptoms once you already have the disease. You owe it to yourself and your family to watch this.

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I am currently completing my first day as a vegetarian...no milk, cheese, meat of any kind, fish, crustaceans, or eggs.

It's not an easy job!!!!
 
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Robert Herndon said:
Well, I have been thinking about this a lot...for a couple of years actually, but the recent move "What The Health," and learning more and more about Phil Collen's health regiment, finally gave me the push I needed.

I have eaten almost a total meat (steak, carne asada) and cheese (quesadillas etc) diet for many, many years. Thankfully, at 51, I still weigh 225 (I am 6'-2") and take no medications. However, I saw some amazing health benefits from dropping meat altogether.

For years, I have wondered if our consumption of animal products, as a society, was responsible for so many health problems. This film really drove the point home and I encourage everyone to watch it. The money the food industry spends to conceal the true health risks of animal products is amazing. Internal emails from the American Egg Board were released in which upper level management actually discussed having an egg substitute CEO assassinated and the directors of the American Cancer Society, American Diabetes Association and The American Heart Association all refused to be interviewed. People with cancer have reversed their symptoms after eliminating meat, without chemotherapy and you will meet them in this presentation.

It is amazing how people have transformed in only 2 weeks, including eliminating their medication...because the medication treats only the symptom, not the cause.

I was shocked to learn that sugar intake does not cause diabetes - it only aggravates the symptoms once you already have the disease. You owe it to yourself and your family to watch this.

Start

I am currently completing my first day as a vegetarian...no milk, cheese, meat of any kind, fish, crustaceans, or eggs.

It's not an easy job!!!!
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I am making the trasition. No meat, just fish so far, but I am eating 1/2 the fish I used to. Nice job!
 
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I think it was the right choice for my wife and I. We are doing it together...

JohnnyGoo said:
My Daughter and Son n Law are Vegans but let me tell you they make plenty of shite food they can eat.
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I have been slowly cutting down meat and my energy level (at 51) has steadily increased, and I have not even started my workout routine yet.

Today I ate avocados with salt and lemon juice, corn on the cob, and black beans...and I am stuffed!!! I really enjoy East Indian foods and my wife makes my favorite - Masala Paneer - with Tofu and coconut milk and I cannot taste the difference. I have also, for the past several months, been eating raw green onions, (which I love) raw jalapenos, curtido, mashed potatoes, scorpion pepper salsa, baked chips we make here at home, Ezekiel breads, bell peppers, onions and peppers sautéed in olive oils, and the list goes on and on and on... :-)
 
I don't care if it kills me, something will eventually and I'll never stop eating meat. Period. We are omnivores not herbivores...

All of my family has lived into their 90's for generations and they all ate LOTS of meat.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I was shocked to learn that sugar intake does not cause diabetes - it only aggravates the symptoms once you already have the disease. You owe it to yourself and your family to watch this.

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I notice they are not concerned enough about my health to let me watch the movie for free...
 
Goldmember said:
OK. I kinda dig this idea, but is it truly necessary to remove eggs from the diet as well? I can't each mushrooms without egg.
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I don't know, Goldy, I am brand new to this. But I am getting older (I'm 51) and I am starting to look at everything differently.

Dr. David Spence, professor of neurology at Western University in London, Ontario, Canada, states that egg consumption stiffens your arteries almost as much as smoking. He elaborates: “People at risk of vascular disease should not eat egg yolks. Carotid plaque goes up steeply with age. Spence and his team team collected data on more than 1,200 men and women, using ultrasound to first determine the amount of plaque their arteries. Participants were then asked about tobacco use, egg consumption (and other lifestyle factors like what medications they were on). Although artery plaque levels rose with age, both smoking and eating egg yolks sped up this plaque formation within vessels, the researchers found. Regular consumption of egg yolks sped up plaque deposits in arteries at a rate that was about two-thirds the rate seen with smoking, Spence said.

People who ate three or more yolks a week had significantly increased plaque compared with people who ate two or fewer yolks a week, the team found. That makes sense, Spence said, since just “one egg yolk contains more than the recommended daily intake of cholesterol.”
 
Robert states...
"For years, I have wondered if our consumption of animal products, as a society, was responsible for so many health problems."

I believe it has more to do with how the animals we eat have them selves been fed and medicated.
Farmers regularly add antibiotics and God knows what else to the food supply of cows, pigs and chickens.
The milk we drink and the cheese we eat, same thing.
Even fish. Farm raised fish I believe suffer from the same issues.

Hormones to make them grow faster so they can be marketed sooner. All these chemicals eventually end up in us as table food.
Not to mention the way they are penned up in such close quarters. If one is diseased, they all most likely all will be.
That's why the overuse of antibiotics.

An old saying is, you are what you eat. I believe this to be true.
I'd be curious the mortality rate of truly rural folks.
The people that hunt and only eat wild meats and fish.
Nothing store bought or farm raised.

I'm an admitted carnivore. I like meat, chicken and fish.
I'm also 30 to 40 pounds overweight and in my later 50's.
The older I get the harder it will be to lose any weight.
Therefore I'm trying to eat more salads. Once a week I'll have a salad instead of a burger, or chicken.
It's only a drop in the bucket, but it's a start.

And the veggies and greens in the salads have been grown using pesticides, chemical fertilizers and are artificially ripened.

I think we're all doomed.
This is all my opinion of course, I'm not a biologist or scientist.
Just my take on Roberts statements.
 
Hackmaster said:
Robert states...
"For years, I have wondered if our consumption of animal products, as a society, was responsible for so many health problems."

I believe it has more to do with how the animals we eat have them selves been fed and medicated.
Farmers regularly add antibiotics and God knows what else to the food supply of cows, pigs and chickens.
The milk we drink and the cheese we eat, same thing.
Even fish. Farm raised fish I believe suffer from the same issues.

Hormones to make them grow faster so they can be marketed sooner. All these chemicals eventually end up in us as table food.
Not to mention the way they are penned up in such close quarters. If one is diseased, they all most likely all will be.
That's why the overuse of antibiotics.

An old saying is, you are what you eat. I believe this to be true.
I'd be curious the mortality rate of truly rural folks.
The people that hunt and only eat wild meats and fish.
Nothing store bought or farm raised.

I'm an admitted carnivore. I like meat, chicken and fish.
I'm also 30 to 40 pounds overweight and in my later 50's.
The older I get the harder it will be to lose any weight.
Therefore I'm trying to eat more salads. Once a week I'll have a salad instead of a burger, or chicken.
It's only a drop in the bucket, but it's a start.

And the veggies and greens in the salads have been grown using pesticides, chemical fertilizers and are artificially ripened.

I think we're all doomed.
This is all my opinion of course, I'm not a biologist or scientist.
Just my take on Roberts statements.
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You make a lot of sense!

I'm not advocating anyone go this route, I am just sharing what my wife and I are doing and some of the crazy information we found while researching the diet....

I applaud your drop in the bucket...the journey of a million miles begins with but a single step!!!!!
 
Thanks Robert. And I wish you & the Mrs. luck in your journey as well.
When we take control of our lives, I think we're better people.
We live in a country of excess.
Young kids force fed Mc Donalds daily because the parents are too lazy to cook.
It's a race to the bottom.
 
Hackmaster said:
Thanks Robert. And I wish you & the Mrs. luck in your journey as well.
When we take control of our lives, I think we're better people.
We live in a country of excess.
Young kids force fed Mc Donalds daily because the parents are too lazy to cook.
It's a race to the bottom.
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No doubt. It's a huge issue of laziness I am afraid!!!!
 
Life= Sexually transmitted disease with no known cure ----no one gets out alive.

HOWEVER ---yes Robert I agree and there is a QUALITY of that life issue---
Sp8ctre did your relatives (or you) have arthritis? kidney stones, diabetes,chrones disease, high cholesterol,gout or any other "ailments" (bet they did ) we all do eventually we all GET something.....could it be from meat---animal hormones etc. I agree Chris--and my ancestors lived to RIPE old ages too and most ate EVERYTHING they tell you not to---heavy cream fatty meat sugar--- but the MEAT my grandfather grew up (he would be 119 now and lived to be 94 was driving till he was 92) as a youth and most his adult life is NOT the overly processed---hormone chemical injected dyed, bleached, additive infused stuff in the market today ---it was fresher--pure--farm to table literally--

My wife is on a vegetarian diet has been for a while--- she LOVES animals---and doesnt LOVE eating them---she raises chickens.....we have pigs.....and as a MEAT lover I can tell you --- when you feed and care for and play with and interact with pigs---and chickens (and if we had a cow----she wants one---dont start) ----you do tend to want that sausage patty less......or the chicken sandwich just DOESNT have the appeal it used to.

I also agree with MODERATION of all things--- and balance--- and I agree that most the grocery store veggies have "issues" that can cause humans problems just like the meat is claimed to ........so again I say ----see line one of this post---- DO what YOU think is right for you and be happy in that, you only go 'round once.

ME -- I still eat meat--- no where near as much--- and a lot less of the processed stuff. ---I might feel a little better--- I know my cholesterol is down......I know my BP is down....is it because we now have been eating BEAN tacos instead of meat tacos--- maybe--- meatless spaghetti or eggplant parm instead of chicken parm----possibly--Do I feel better when I look in the eyes of the pigs and goats and chickens and critters here at the house.......sure I do. Thats good enough for me.
 
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