Best pickups made by a guitar manufacturer

Which guitar manufacturer makes the best pickups

  • Gibson

    Votes: 10 66.7%
  • PRS

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Tom Anderson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fender

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Ibanez

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • G&L

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
Basically a toss-up between Gibson and G&L for me, but I chose Gibson because most of my guitars are Gibbies and their pickups have never let me down. I've been a bit underwhelmed by PRS pickups and Fender have never seemed like anything special, even the fancy "Abby" pickups I had in a CS Strat at one time. Never played Anderson or Ibanez in anything but someone else's guitar so no comment there.
 
Late to the party as usual... Polls closed by the time I prepared my ballot.

My vote goes to Gibson as the best, favoring the '57 Classic + as the all time top
with an honorable mention to the Gibson 21st Century mini hum bucker. My two Gibson SG specials
are the best guitars of any kind that I have ever played. Each sounds great through amps
made by Fender, Vox, Roland, Black Heart and Orange. Play well with f/x... Play well clean.
Noiseless. No mud, no ice pick, no problems of any kind, just greet performance. As we expect
from Gibson. Damn straight. Lovely clear musical tones in all the frequencies. Hard to beat.
Start with the best, then distort it, delay it, overdrive it or spin it to taste.

Followed closely (read that VERY CLOSELY) by Fender: My Fender Jazz Bass is the best bass
I've ever played, I've owned it since 1972 and it is unsurpassed. It's all stock with replaced pots and
caps to the original spec. Stock Fender Jazz Bass pickups are the world's best. All others (except
the Precision Bass pickup) are imitations. Excellent I'm sure, but still...
>Also, my MIM Fender Telecaster with its "Wide Range" Humbuckers keeps sounding better and better
to my ear. Those are stock, but modded with 500k CTS pots to bring out their full potential.

I don't own a Strat, but Strats are one of the world's standards for tone. No one can deny this.
And my good friend Rod Capps always can amaze me with his USA Telecaster with regular stock
tele pickups. Once again, the Fender Telecaster is the original. Undeniable. Start with the best,
and add your own soul and technique... Fender enhances your music in many many ways.

Pretty standard stuff, eh? I sound so conventional, it's unconventional. But it's true.
That's why they sell so many guitars. The majority of guitar players don't hang out on fora like this
one. They mostly just buy a Gibson or Fender and play it. And they mostly have no problems,
which you'd never guess if you read too many internet posts. So for every one of us here, fussing
over tiny details of construction or "Gibson Quality Control," there are thousands of others who never fuss over anything, just buy a guitar, buy an amp and play. *shrugs ...I wish them all well, and more power to them. They are the fan base

But I like fussing over the details, which is why I'm here. So now that I've said my piece, I've
got questions of my own:

1. Epiphone does make their own pickups (I thought)... so I felt they should be considered.
If Epi does not make their own, I'd like to know about it. I'll give them a B+.
I would NOT have given them first place, but they're right there in the pack IMHO. I have played
three Epiphones stock, and thought their pickups were fine. Then I went and improved them and
the instruments responded really well. What's that say? *grins ...Fussing over details is very
rewarding when it comes to Epiphone modding.

2. Doesn't anybody know about Taylor guitars? Taylor makes excellent electric guitars, and I believe they make their own p'ups. They claim they do, in their advertising blurbs. And they claim to be creative innovators in the world of electronics, and guitar pickups, as well as in guitar woodwork and
acoustic tone woods. I'd love to hear an opinion from colleagues here who own and play Taylor Electric guitars. Aren't there any? I don't own one, but they intrigue me. And Taylor acoustics are right up there with Martins.

3. I know nothing about PRS guitars, but they intrigue me too. As do Schecter and Ibanez guitars.
I imagine these makers all wind their own, but would be interested in hearing from someone who has facts. PRS is a well respected name, but I've never personally played one.
 
I really love the pickups on my 1998 American Standard Strat. I also cut some automltive sheet metal and used silicone to adhere to the bottoms of my pickups. They are supposed to direct the magnetic field more upwards and I got this tip from a DIY simple project. Seymour Duncan has a set called Twang Bangers I think. He uses copper and it gives the pickup more punch. I also have a David Gilmour mod on my Strat that turns on the neck pickup so I can use all 3 pickups pickups at the same time. I love the sound and it's super sparkling! I also like using the bridge pickup along with the neck pickup because it's out of phase and it has a cool nasily tone to it. I feel that my Strat is the most perfect guitar...I love it!


;>)/
 
Well I missed the poll too Col, but my vote is pretty much the same. Gibson I like the 57/57+ & burstbucker 1 & 2. I haven't tried a real T top but going on the two clones that I have they would be my favorite, love em. I also really like the fender single coils in my 2012 select strat. All I can find out about is that they were custom wound for each guitar. Damn nice strat pickups though. I have a set of CS Texas Specials but much prefer the select pickups. Cheers
 
Iota practice playing more and fuss about gear less.

Most stock Epi and Agile pickups sound just fine to me; I did some magnet swaps on some of those and other cheapish pickups and they sound just fine to me.
OR, I can take ANY pickup - even the revered 57 / 57+ - and make it sound horrible!!
I have to say I would like to try the 57 pair; maybe it would make a difference but I still think the good, the bad, and the ugly comes mostly from my hands.
 
Late to the party as usual... Polls closed by the time I prepared my ballot.
2. Doesn't anybody know about Taylor guitars? Taylor makes excellent electric guitars, and I believe they make their own p'ups. They claim they do, in their advertising blurbs. And they claim to be creative innovators in the world of electronics, and guitar pickups, as well as in guitar woodwork and
acoustic tone woods. I'd love to hear an opinion from colleagues here who own and play Taylor Electric guitars. Aren't there any? I don't own one, but they intrigue me. And Taylor acoustics are right up there with Martins.

Hah! Learn something new ever day... I THOUGHT Taylor makes excellent electric guitars, because I've seen them advertised and drooled
on my keyboard trying not to inflate myself with noxious G.A.S. I've read these ads intently, imagining my self on the road to glory, playing
one of Bob Taylor's solid body creations, and rocking his innovative pickup designs.

But search for one now. Nada... Taylor guitars must be out of the solid body electric guitar business. Why, I don't know.
Does anybody here know what happened. I presume that they didn't sell too well, and have been discontinued. So look on
the used market for these beauties... and get 'em while you can. Instant collectors' items IMHO.

I'd love to have one of these: (and at used prices too...)
Taylor Solid Electric Guitars | eBay
 
More about the discontinued Taylor line of SB electric guitars: If you want to read a load of closed minded clap trap... *grins
A closed mind is nothing to be proud of... but we wade through so much of it on guitar fora. All that short sighted negativity makes
me extremely curious and increases my G.A.S. level to an alarming bulge... If short sighted and narrow minded types don't like
something, I often do. *shrugs ...this makes life interesting sometimes.


https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...r-discontinued-their-solid-body-line.1446971/

To me, this just means that Taylor priced their SB guitars too high to encourage the
tonally adventurous players... And it also means that buying one on the used market is
the way to go. Laughed reading how guys wouldn't buy a Taylor because it was hard to
mod...

That's actually great, because maybe the used ones don't have the same SD p'ups
that guys install in everything else. I'm curious about them, thinking they might have
a unique tone that's neither Gibbie nor Fenderish. I'd love to explore a tone like that
for a year, but I'm still busy with my P-90 experience. AND my mini hums.

Here's four lovelies, sporting Gibson Mini hums, Gibson '57 classics, Fender "Wide Range" hums
and a set of Gibson 490R/ Golden Age Overwound Br in the Wilshire. Lots of tonal adventure here,
with Luna, the Brown SG and her '57s as the most (devilishly) conventional.
Four Electrics@100.jpg
Missing from this portrait is my beautiful blonde/black Epi ES 339 with her P-90s for
more tonal adventure, and also missing is the Taylor electric guitar I never bought. *sob
Blonde@100.jpg
 
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More about the discontinued Taylor line of SB electric guitars: If you want to read a load of closed minded clap trap... *grins
A closed mind is nothing to be proud of... but we wade through so much of it on guitar fora. All that short sighted negativity makes
me extremely curious and increases my G.A.S. level to an alarming bulge... If short sighted and narrow minded types don't like
something, I often do. *shrugs ...this makes life interesting sometimes.


https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...r-discontinued-their-solid-body-line.1446971/

To me, this just means that Taylor priced their SB guitars too high to encourage the
tonally adventurous players... And it also means that buying one on the used market is
the way to go. Laughed reading how guys wouldn't buy a Taylor because it was hard to
mod...

That's actually great, because maybe the used ones don't have the same SD p'ups
that guys install in everything else. I'm curious about them, thinking they might have
a unique tone that's neither Gibbie nor Fenderish. I'd love to explore a tone like that
for a year, but I'm still busy with my P-90 experience. AND my mini hums.

Here's four lovelies, sporting Gibson Mini hums, Gibson '57 classics, Fender "Wide Range" hums
and a set of Gibson 490R/ Golden Age Overwound Br in the Wilshire. Lots of tonal adventure here,
with Luna, the Brown SG and her '57s as the most (devilishly) conventional.
View attachment 5935
Missing from this portrait is my beautiful blonde/black Epi ES 339 with her P-90s for
more tonal adventure, and also missing is the Taylor electric guitar I never bought. *sob
View attachment 5936
I played one and almost bought it. I say "almost", because you are correct, they were priced too high and there were comparable more familiar brands in that price range. Also, it was heavy as a boat anchor! it did feel and sound nice though.
 
Other than Carvin, I would have to use an off the shelf pickup....not enough sonic variations to suit my desires...
 
I thought the solid-body Taylors were kind of cool. But, I didn't like the aesthetics of the models with the large pickguards, as much.
 
No PG here.There are some really nice ones out there

Taylor Solid Electric

That one is kind of nice, but the pickup switch is in the same location as my Jackson, and it's rather cumbersome to switch pickups on the fly. Honestly, that alone would make me lean away from getting one. I switch pickups a lot and having the switch on the other side of the knobs is annoying to me.
 
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A heavy Taylor that was too expensive would also turn me off...

But this is a tone thread, so I was wondering if anyone plays one, and could
tell us about how the p'ups sound compared to what.
 
More about the discontinued Taylor line of SB electric guitars: If you want to read a load of closed minded clap trap... *grins
A closed mind is nothing to be proud of... but we wade through so much of it on guitar fora. All that short sighted negativity makes
me extremely curious and increases my G.A.S. level to an alarming bulge... If short sighted and narrow minded types don't like
something, I often do. *shrugs ...this makes life interesting sometimes.


https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...r-discontinued-their-solid-body-line.1446971/

To me, this just means that Taylor priced their SB guitars too high to encourage the
tonally adventurous players... And it also means that buying one on the used market is
the way to go. Laughed reading how guys wouldn't buy a Taylor because it was hard to
mod...

That's actually great, because maybe the used ones don't have the same SD p'ups
that guys install in everything else. I'm curious about them, thinking they might have
a unique tone that's neither Gibbie nor Fenderish. I'd love to explore a tone like that
for a year, but I'm still busy with my P-90 experience. AND my mini hums.

Here's four lovelies, sporting Gibson Mini hums, Gibson '57 classics, Fender "Wide Range" hums
and a set of Gibson 490R/ Golden Age Overwound Br in the Wilshire. Lots of tonal adventure here,
with Luna, the Brown SG and her '57s as the most (devilishly) conventional.
View attachment 5935
Missing from this portrait is my beautiful blonde/black Epi ES 339 with her P-90s for
more tonal adventure, and also missing is the Taylor electric guitar I never bought. *sob
View attachment 5936


Col, I remember that dual bucker Tele you have. Not sure if you saw, but I now have a 2 bucker Strat type guitar to join the club.
 
A heavy Taylor that was too expensive would also turn me off...

But this is a tone thread, so I was wondering if anyone plays one, and could
tell us about how the p'ups sound compared to what.
Closer to PRS McCartys than to Gibson '57s. IE - more "fat" that "vintage" but not hot as I recall. Does that help?
 
Strats get a hum bucker in the bridge position... but maybe the neck and middle
are too classic of a tone to replace, eh? ...says the guy with the double hum bucker Tele...

Anyway, tell us about how your double hum bucker strat sounds... this is a forking TONE thread!
And you have to confess who made the p'ups! If they weren't made by forking Fender, they
prolly don't count in this thread.

I'll tell you that the "Fender Wide Range Humbucking pickups" are a very cool innovation.
Fender hired Seth Lover to design them, after he got fed up with working for Gibson under the
Norlin corporate bosses. Seth Lover describes how he designed something that wouldn't violate
the Gibson Humbucker patent, which was still active at that time, but he also made sure to keep
the Fender brilliance in the tone.

To me, that means he added his knowledge and experience with designing Gibson pickups
onto the Fender sound, and worked in CBS Fender's lab until he had something interesting to
offer. The 1972 Fender Wide Range hum bucking pickup was a great blend of both worlds.
Unfortunately, the guitarists of the time ('70s) were too fascinated with the Les Paul sound
of Jimmy Page and others... so the Fender innovation was not well accepted at that time...

They didn't sell too well, and were discontinued by 1981. It took until the turn
of this century for guitarists to realize that these instruments were very cool, and for Fender
to re-issue this model. I bought one as soon as I saw one hanging in a guitar store, used but
in great shape.

The new ones are different than the classic (and collectable) models
with a hum bucking pickup much more like all the others... using AlNiCo bar magnets instead
of the CuNiFe magnets Seth Lover called for in his design. But the patent issue is a non issue
now, and my Fender sweetheart was made in Mexico in 2006. It sounds great! ...and unique.
My Fender Tele Deluxe is wired just like a Les Paul, but she sure doesn't sound like one.
She's a different animal entirely, which I like.

Does this count, in this tone thread which measures p'ups made by guitar companies against
other similar equipment made by other guitar companies? Here's Fender's poster for the '70s
Starcaster, which used the same p'ups being discussed above. I saw this way back when, and
always wanted one... but to me, the Tele is a better choice, and it's my choice now.
FenderPoster_4x@100.jpg
 
In my hands so far the best sounding set up I had was a 2005 SG std. with a clean headstock repair and Gibson BB Pro's plugged into a T-Rex Yellow Drive with very little gain on into a Marshall DSL 50 head (green channel) into my 2x12. It sang that sweet bluesy Marshall sound of AC/DC & the likes....seriously debating swapping my 800 for a DSL50.
 
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Questions beget more questions, do they not? Has anyone answered this one (with facts)...
DOES EPIPHONE MAKE THEIR OWN P'UPS, OR DO THEY SHIP THE JOBS SOMEWHERE
THAT WORKERS WORK FOR LESS PAY THAN IN A CHINESE SWEATSHOP?

So now I'm axing about one more guitar making company that didn't get included in this
poll... Gretsch!

Don't they make their own p'ups? The Filtertron and the Flubbertron and the toaster tops
and the Broadkastertron, or what ever they are calling them now...

Nobody brought up Gretsch. So I am asking why. Does everybody know something I don't
know? Are they decoys, like a Jeep with a canvas Battletank silhouette on it... or are they real pickups made by a real guitar company... or what. Inquiring minds want to know.

The polls are closed and we all must now live with the choices that were made.

But I'm still curious about what our members could say concerning things that weren't
covered. It's easy to see that Gibson seems to be favored here, and I'm in step with the
in crowd, amazingly enough. Taylor Electric guitars seem to be kaput, and have no loyal
fans around here anyway.

What about Gretsch then...

Note that I have NOT brought up Rickenbacker yet. Nor D'Angelico...
 
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Gretsch was acquired by Fender in 2003.

Filtertrons are Gretsch's own humbuckers. They were said to have been designed by Ray Butts for Chet Atkins. Although the patent on the Filtertrons was granted later, historical evidence shows the prototypes were actually produced well before Gibson's humbuckers were released.

Before Gretsch switched to Filtertrons in 1957, Gretsch guitars mainly used DeArmond's 200 pickup, which known as the "Dynasonic" pickup in Gretsch literature.

There are a number of things to take into consideration when speculating where certain articles are produced and determining what percentage of parts are used from foreign sources.

Hamer had a USA line of pickups, made for them by DiMarzio, and later by Duncan, that carried the Hamer name.

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However, it is not clearly known what percentage of foreign parts may be used in the building of domestic pickups.

At a certain percentage of imported parts, a product can still be legally declared "Made In USA. " Beyond a certain percentage of imported parts a product must be labeled "Assembled in USA," and beyond that, a component must be declared made in the country of origin.

Gibson's facility, in Quingdao China, is very near to many other guitar and guitar part manufacturers. Two of the largest in this area are SSMII and Huyuan.

I have approached both and obtained production samples from both (including Swing Inc. and WMI in Korea) when my oldest son suggested we start offering an import line of guitars - an idea I later rejected in favor of keeping everything USA Made.

Step one in these discussions were signed non-disclosure agreements, which is SOP when dealing with intellectual property.

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Since Gibson China is very secretive about what they do, and with good reason, you may be only able to speculate as to what parts are actually made in their facility. Gibson China likely has similar non disclosure agreements in place also, as one would expect.

I have been told, in my recent conversations with my contacts in China, that cargo trucks are in constant motion between the Gibson China facility and other nearby musical instrument builders, so one could speculate that some level of sub-contracting is in place with their Chinese plant.

Artec is one very large producer of guitar pickup raw components and they produce completed pickups for a number of OEM's. They also produce the GFS line as well.

One can easily examine the shipping manifests of various companies online and see what raw materials are being imported by a given manufacturer. That data is widely available.

When we were in talks with pickup winders recently about building pickups, before we went with a California company, we obtained some pickups from an Asian maker. To my surprise, one had a base plate clearly embossed "Gibson." When I emailed my contact the photo, he called me immediately.

I was asked not to post or retain any photos of the pickup in question. My contact immediately issued a call tag and told me the base plate was a "controlled article" protected by confidentiality agreements which had been accidentally released.

The question is, does it really make a difference where the baseplates, bobbins and magnets are made, or where the wire is sourced??? For that matter, does it really matter where or by whom the pickups are wound as long as the end user likes the sound???

If winder A uses the same gauge of wire, same number of turns, same impedance, same materials and same magnet composition as winder B, you will have an identical product.

Everyone is going to hear something different in the sound and many things will influence what the ear ultimately hears, and many factors that people attribute to the pickup sometimes have little to do with the pickups themselves.

So in the end, a good pickup or a bad pickup is just a matter of opinion...
 
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