Battling Alcoholism...

Vox AC30 said:
From the hustle and bustle of Clearwater especially near Gulf to Bay [60 N/S } and { 19 N/S }quite frankly really f in boring , Satellite Beach is a bedroom community on the beach where they roll up the curbs at 8 O'clock. I checked Google maps and while I'm standing in the street lookin at the Ocean I can't believe the next nearest land mass is the Ivory Coast! The house is a little small and a little pricey so my wings are clipped a little …. being partially retired I just play guitar, sometimes go beachin, to hone my Social Engineering skills, fix all the 1/2 arsed house'el teething pain problems that seem to always come up as the beach weather, close to the ocean is brutal, to all the houses on the island. The salt in the air just wears down everything. Cwater, I had Sam's Ash and GtrWallyWorld Center just around the corner now I gotta drive an hour n 10 minutes to Qrlando @ 85 mph, er... that's a normal speed to go there !

The sad story goes, the property we were living on was part of a parcel , again on the beach, that sold for 28 million! So when the lease was up Mary said why don't we move to Clearwater near her nephew Mike, who was now 40yrs, he was a little kid when I robbed the cradle and started going out with " the bride, " Mary. So I said " I guess what's the difference? ", but she did line up a job in the emergency room, front lines, at a local prestigious hospital to work in. I called Mike n told em " ya gotta hook me up for easy home updates/repairs " as I knew not one soul over there. So 11 months later Mikey drinkin fireball, we had a rule no hard stuff, period! And ya'll know why. This was on my wife's and sons birthday AUG 20th and we were having a riot. He got thru 1/2 a bottle before I dumped it down the drain. He goes out at 11 o'clock pm with my son … does multiple shots, for hours, buying many for every patron at the " (.)(.) " Bar, leaves and goes to another (.)(.) bar and does it again there. At 4 am he leaves to go home. He owned a 4 bay repair station in Pinellas Park, and, whenever we did this we always used Uber, another rule, " no driving "! He left with an old partially restored Truck, punched out 350, racing tranny and what, a 396 rear end, he would blow off that line like a bat outta hell since the rear end was geared precisely for doin that. Well, 6:30am we get a call from his mother in law …. Mikey was in an accident and he didn't make it! Rolled the truck 6 times, I know the steering box was a POS and needed immediately needed to be over hauled. I think the steering gave him some argro, he might of been racing, I'm not sure but road the steel barrier which rolled the truck. Left a 3 1/2 and 8 yr old son & daughter.
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@Vox AC30
sorry to hear of your family tragedy.
All too common.
Walked that tightrope some as a young man.


I only drink at home, period.
In the evening when I done doing things.
When I'm doing nothing.
Doing nothing means a lot to me.
But drinking doesn't.
 
Yea Thanks! I haven't really brought it up to anybody since it's such a buzz kill, but after reading thru the 10 pages of the thread I just went with it, probably feel a little better that I got it out . In that one year there I had one of the best times of all my years in FL. Thanks guys
 
Vox AC30 said:
Yea Thanks! I haven't really brought it up to anybody since it's such a buzz kill, but after reading thru the 10 pages of the thread I just went with it, probably feel a little better that I got it out . In that one year there I had one of the best times of all my years in FL. Thanks guys
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Thank you for sharing sir! I’ve heard and seen things as you’ve described...lived through one vivid memory of pure hell on wheels...thanks...seriously...
 
Been following this thread from the start and wishing those with problems (large or small) well.
I don't think I have a problem. If I do it's a very VERY small one, usually 2 or 3 beers a day. A couple of days without a drink doesn't cause any distress but socializing etc makes extended dry time almost nonexistent.
So after one beer and a large bottle of Guinness last Friday night Saturday morning was a little foggy (most unusual). I decided to stop drinking for a yet to be determined time and see what happens. Now after five days I'm sleeping better, don't have any craving but miss the social part of drinking, I think I've found a great answer ... SODA WATER! I'm finding the soda water refreshing, filling and I can drink with my mates, even if they call me silly names (all in good fun).
Give it a go :-)
 
gasket said:
Been following this thread from the start and wishing those with problems (large or small) well.
I don't think I have a problem. If I do it's a very VERY small one, usually 2 or 3 beers a day. A couple of days without a drink doesn't cause any distress but socializing etc makes extended dry time almost nonexistent.
So after one beer and a large bottle of Guinness last Friday night Saturday morning was a little foggy (most unusual). I decided to stop drinking for a yet to be determined time and see what happens. Now after five days I'm sleeping better, don't have any craving but miss the social part of drinking, I think I've found a great answer ... SODA WATER! I'm finding the soda water refreshing, filling and I can drink with my mates, even if they call me silly names (all in good fun).
Give it a go :)
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Cool. Change is good. Your body is the first to benefit. If you give it some more time, you will notice more significant changes in your nervous system.
 
We've been dealing with alcoholism now up close & personal for a few months.
We ended up "adopting" my 59 year old sister in law after her husband thru her and the dog out and divorced her.
She's always been dependant on others, never really having to accept responsibility for anything.
She had two kids while still in high school. Those kind ended up being dumped on the grandparents from the beginning.
Being how she never finished high school, she never learned the simplest of life skills that most take for granted.
Instead she took the easy route & chose bartending as a "career".
So starts a pattern of sleeping all day and being out all night.
She met her last husband in the bar. He was a manager.
After 20+ years he'd had enough and got rid of his problem.

We ended up with it. It's my wifes sister.
The grandparents are gone now and she has no one left to depend on, so my poor wife falls victim to it.
We've bought her a mobile home so she wouldn't be homeless, spent countless dollars fixing things and just making it nice.
How does she repay us? By sneaking vodka and thinking we couldn't tell. My wife caught her trying to hide a half empty vodka bottle just a month ago.
I had smelled it the night before & mentioned it to my wife, that's when she caught her.

She's had a job in a deli for a couple weeks now and already missed a few days.
I'm not thinking that job will last much longer.

Yes alcohol is a powerful drug.
 
Vox AC30 said:
Yea Thanks! I haven't really brought it up to anybody since it's such a buzz kill, but after reading thru the 10 pages of the thread I just went with it, probably feel a little better that I got it out . In that one year there I had one of the best times of all my years in FL. Thanks guys
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I also like to thank you for sharing. This is REAL news!

Hackmaster said:
We've been dealing with alcoholism now up close & personal for a few months.
We ended up "adopting" my 59 year old sister in law after her husband thru her and the dog out and divorced her.
She's always been dependant on others, never really having to accept responsibility for anything.
She had two kids while still in high school. Those kind ended up being dumped on the grandparents from the beginning.
Being how she never finished high school, she never learned the simplest of life skills that most take for granted.
Instead she took the easy route & chose bartending as a "career".
So starts a pattern of sleeping all day and being out all night.
She met her last husband in the bar. He was a manager.
After 20+ years he'd had enough and got rid of his problem.

We ended up with it. It's my wifes sister.
The grandparents are gone now and she has no one left to depend on, so my poor wife falls victim to it.
We've bought her a mobile home so she wouldn't be homeless, spent countless dollars fixing things and just making it nice.
How does she repay us? By sneaking vodka and thinking we couldn't tell. My wife caught her trying to hide a half empty vodka bottle just a month ago.
I had smelled it the night before & mentioned it to my wife, that's when she caught her.

She's had a job in a deli for a couple weeks now and already missed a few days.
I'm not thinking that job will last much longer.

Yes alcohol is a powerful drug.
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Ouch!

Seriously... There are a lot of similarities here that could describe my first marriage... :ohno:
 
I always tell everybody … water makes me vomit! Just as a joke though. When I used to bust my a%$ every day, 35 years, nothing tasted better than a 16oz suds after work. And that always was the hardest part. What put the moderation on me is I went to a meeting, as my whole life I've only heard about meetings and went to one to see what the skinny was about. Me, I was like F that, I don't want to do that, it'd be better to just ebb the flow. Thing that got me was everybody there had a killer job makin much more than I did! They also lost relationships with their family and/or significant others and children. Recently when I was in a Publix liquor store , turned around to my son and said look at these prices for that s@^%, you gotta have a good income to be a lush!
 
Goldmember said:
Alcohol is an interesting drug. It would help me sit down and drift away from life's stress and troubles...but only for a short time.
If anything happened out of the ordinary, I would find myself overreacting, sometimes with unnecessary anger. Now, though I miss
the "escape," I'm able to think clearly before reacting and put up my emotional armor. Oh, yes, and I no longer have to worry about
making the choice to drive or not. Thanks, everyone, for all the kind words of encouragement!
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The inclusion of personal details sure does a lot to bring the members into our own homes more than just words on a screen.

For you, Goldie I mostly replied my reactions before but have more to add in light of your statement. In reaction to your natural inclination to react adversely or with haste and anger, I can relate but not due to alcohol consumption in my case. In my formative years and during the young adult ones, I had 2 significant role models to be shaped by. Of course these are parental type persons. The original and for the duration of my life are my biological parents both mom and dad. Where the significance lies is in the polar opposite natures of my parental examples. Both mom and dad had impetuous and short fuse type personalities. With low boiling point, low esteem and confrontational personalities, this often wound up with them in combat with one another. The violence and verbal abuses were highly detrimental to the peace and nurturing of young children. No alcohol was involved in these arguments, unless one counts the effects that my alcoholic grandfather's nature had on the upbringing of my dad and his 10 siblings.

With my life up to age 12 turning into a day to day struggle to survive the mental torment at home while just trying to be a kid at school I'd spend most of my with my friends and do my best to avoid most of the negative things at home. Then one day my mom tells my sister and me to pack up all our stuff secretly to prep to leave our home at a future time when she said the word. When that day came, our lives turned 180 degrees to spend the 2nd half of our school age years with mom and my stepdad to be. My 2nd formative influence was now set into motion. Having a new home and a new loving, non violent and cerebral example of a DAD to grow and learn from was to be the single best happening for my life. My mom and my sister would also concur despite the obvious detrimental portion that fracturing of our original family unit would bring about.

Basically my point is just how one can learn from and benefit from a BETTER WAY. As I see it Goldie, Black, Robert and anyone else here, can realize so many positive changes the freedoms of a life without the addiction can bring. I suspect as time goes by, they will not only reap those rewards, but their loved ones and circles of influence will also be rewarded by the improved dispositions the healthier lifestyle brings forth.

Stay strong and stay well you guys.
 
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