Band Battle Floyd vs Maiden let's go brothers!

Which band deserves the headphones and a big fatty

  • Iron Maiden

    Votes: 6 21.4%

  • Pink Floyd

    Votes: 22 78.6%
  • Total voters
    28
  • Poll closed .
I have listened intently to the three IM selections @Clockworkmike presented.
They were all released out of the time frame directly relative to 70's Floyd, but i offered to consider them equally. One thing I will say is they are not too similar to the early 80's Maiden I was more familiar with, classics such a Run, Beast, Trooper etc. Seems the band evolved to "smooth" the sharpest edges. I also feel each pieces may have benefitted by being approximately half as long.
I want to listen through one more time before offering further thoughts. Can Maidenheads affirm those three sections are generally more reminiscent of modern Maiden, or were they more cherry-picked as outliers in progressive/epic/suite style to compete with Pink Floyd's progressive style?
 
TVvoodoo said:
I have listened intently to the three IM selections @Clockworkmike presented.
They were all released out of the time frame directly relative to 70's Floyd, but i offered to consider them equally. One thing I will say is they are not too similar to the early 80's Maiden I was more familiar with, classics such a Run, Beast, Trooper etc. Seems the band evolved to "smooth" the sharpest edges. I also feel each pieces may have benefitted by being approximately half as long.
I want to listen through one more time before offering further thoughts. Can Maidenheads affirm those three sections are generally more reminiscent of modern Maiden, or were they more cherry-picked as outliers in progressive/epic/suite style to compete with Pink Floyd's progressive style?
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They are that , the more recent style they evolved.
 
TVvoodoo said:
Not you @ibmorjamn, that was for @Clockworkmike but I'll bet you feel similar.

I'm reasonable, pit the best three maiden songs EVER against the best three 1970s Floyd songs here in this thread. I'll listen. so will others
In fact, if you headbangers can can muster up even close to a tie, (within 2 votes) I'll extend the vote on this contest for four more days.

You and or Clocky choose the Maiden songs. Anyone volunteer to pick the Floyd songs?

Let's weigh and measure.
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I would not be able to pick those for you. All I think of is The Wall , Dark Side of the Moon and Wish you were Here and Money. Not much help.
 
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TVvoodoo said:
I have listened intently to the three IM selections @Clockworkmike presented.
They were all released out of the time frame directly relative to 70's Floyd, but i offered to consider them equally. One thing I will say is they are not too similar to the early 80's Maiden I was more familiar with, classics such a Run, Beast, Trooper etc. Seems the band evolved to "smooth" the sharpest edges. I also feel each pieces may have benefitted by being approximately half as long.
I want to listen through one more time before offering further thoughts. Can Maidenheads affirm those three sections are generally more reminiscent of modern Maiden, or were they more cherry-picked as outliers in progressive/epic/suite style to compete with Pink Floyd's progressive style?
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Well the problem with Floyd vs Maiden is they were done by 1979 and Maiden began in 1980. If we're extending the range to a comparable time? Then we'd have to go to Floyd in the 80s which is just A Momentary Lapse of Reason from 1987 and The Division Bell in 1994.

Maiden's sound reshaped in 2000 to almost a progressive metal sound with the heart of the music still intact from the early NWOBHM days. The songs I picked are very typical of their sound since 2000, with occasional classic galloping tracks like The Wickerman, The Mercenary, El Dorado, Speed of Light, Stratego and Different World all ranging from 2000-2021, being more rarer than the progressive tracks like what was posted.
 
smitty_p said:
There's nothing to preclude such a contest from still happening. This contest is not being done instead of what @gball suggested. This contest right now was simply an opportunity to look at bands the forum recommended for a time period. All the bands on the list came from forum members.

A contest for hard rock and metal is still very much a possibility. I'm guessing @TVvoodoo may be kind of burnt out from working the other contest and now this one, so I'm not sure he'll have the motivation to arrange another one. But, he is not the only one on the forum who could do that. We moderators didn't get together and appoint him that role. I don't know; maybe he'd jump at the opportunity. The point is, it doesn't have to be him.

If someone wants to put together a hard rock/metal tournament, go ahead! I suppose there would have to be some definition of hard rock and metal. There may be bands that have edged up to that category without being full-on "hard" rock or metal.

Anyway, this is about having fun. I think these tourneys are a great camaraderie builder.

Incidentally, @Clockworkmike , you deserve some thanks, as well. The "Name That Riff" challenge also proved to be a great thread that built a community spirit. It still gets input, so well done on that!
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I'm gonna go a step further and suggest we do this for every decade of the rock era. '90s? Hey man, 'The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion' and 'Ænima' came out in the '90s. 2000's? 'Mer de Noms' and 'The Blessed Hellride' came out in the 2000s. I could go on but you get the point.
 
gball said:
I'm gonna go a step further and suggest we do this for every decade of the rock era. '90s? Hey man, 'The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion' and 'Ænima' came out in the '90s. 2000's? 'Mer de Noms' and 'The Blessed Hellride' came out in the 2000s. I could go on but you get the point.
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Sounds fine to me. Personally, though, I'd personally probably not participate too far. Just due to life, I paid very little attention to music past the '80s until I started on guitar forums. I did listen off and on to some '90s stuff, but nothing really extensive - I hardly even touched my guitar. I just don't have the background or experience to speak intelligently to it.

But, I'm sure such a tournament would be very interesting to others here.
 
Not really on topic but it does bring to mind the question of: What do you wish you had heard more of from a performer that they got away from?

Probably poorly worded but for example, clean guitar work from Carlos Santana ala Winning vs. Singing sustain.
 
An early maiden sample. The somewhat dark subject is not too far removed from some Floyd, I guess. Very melodic, Steve Harris' bass plays the melody during chorus! A fun romp, good musicianship. A retelling of Murders in the Rue Morgue. Even @Far Rider might be able to discern most of the lyrics although if it isn't his style to like, I get that. Song starts nearly a minute in after intro.
At worst it'll make you drive faster!!
You will NEVER convince me to listen to country in an attempt to like it. Won't happen.

 
Clockworkmike said:
Absolutely, and that's my point: I like these contests that @TVvoodoo puts together like these votes and the guitar god challenge thing we did. It was fun and got people talking. So there's no disrespect here on my end, rather the opposite.

And Im cool with this being a multifaceted era of rock, vs just the hard rock/metal thing. But where I dug my heels in, was having metal itself kind of being passed over and diminished as noise without judging it fairly. And the irony of it is, that while I am biased towards hard rock and metal? I'm also very personally rooted in old classic rock first and foremost, as well as even the more off-beat genres that a lot of people like myself don't normally listen to: i.e, Motown, Soul, Blues and even some older country.

I'll be the first to admit that there is a LOT of metal that IS noise. Ever listen to Norwegian Black Metal, Grindcore or Tampa Death Metal? It's... rough lol not my usual cup of tea but even still, I can find something good in it, like the drums or guitars. Vocally? No, almost never because it's the cookie monster or a dying crow.

But that's been the unfair assessment of metal by non-metal fans: that its ALL Noise or it lacks any melody or talent. Iron Maiden for example? Is the best case of not judging a book by its cover. You look at the album covers and you see this zombie, Eddie. To the passerby, you assume it's this fast, dark, evil music right? But you listen to them, especially outside of their debut album and suddenly you're surprised by harmonized guitars, melodical interludes, intricate song structures and soaringly clear vocals that are singing songs about novels and history.

So maybe out of this? Hopefully out of all of this? Some other people might open their ears and eyes to the idea that metal and hard rock IS something bigger. And I hope that if there are the true devout metalheads? They'll be just as open to classic acts like Steppenwolf or The Doors for example, who would be totally opposite of what they listen to normally.

Like I said earlier, I can legitimately say I listen to every single band on this list and with the exception of 2 bands, I listened to all the nominees too. Because I try not to pigeonholed myself and just really just enjoy ALL forms of guitar driven music
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Hey man don't forget we've actually been to a steppenwolf concert . lmao
 
Jethro Rocker said:
You will NEVER convince me to listen to country in an attempt to like it. Won't happen.
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Current day country music doesn't resemble or sound anything like the country music that was recorded decades ago by Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Flatts and Scruggs, and many many others.
The "country music" sound changed when Buck Owens hired Don Rich who played a Telecaster. That's right, folks! Don Rich delivered the "twang" to country music.

Country music's evolution simultaneously ran in parallel with the ever changing evolutions witnessed within Rock and Roll music, Blues music, Prog music, Jazz music, and Heavy Metal music. It's the continuing evolution that keeps us listening to all of our favorite artists and bands.
 
Sargeant Preston said:
Current day country music doesn't resemble or sound anything like the country music that was recorded decades ago by Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Flatts and Scruggs, and many many others.
The "country music" sound changed when Buck Owens hired Don Rich who played a Telecaster. That's right, folks! Don Rich delivered the "twang" to country music.

Country music's evolution simultaneously ran in parallel with the ever changing evolutions witnessed within Rock and Roll music, Blues music, Prog music, Jazz music, and Heavy Metal music. It's the continuing evolution that keeps us listening to all of our favorite artists and bands.
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No, very true.
Either way can't stand either. :D
 
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