And here I thought I was supposed to have all the talent

[Don O]

But come to find out that I never taught my guitar to play great! I’m gonna hold a class for about 6 of them and get them schooled to play great for me

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

HAHA DONO

 

[jtcnj]

So, I CAN blame my budget gear!
Primo!

 

[eSGEe]

It isn't me then ......its the GEAR is under-talented! whew....thats a relief

do they have a BASS guitar version as well.......???? --asking for a friend---

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

But come to find out that I never taught my guitar to play great! I’m gonna hold a class for about 6 of them and get them schooled to play great for me

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Yup, I knew Dan when I was a teenager.
He's been around a really long time.

 

[Hackmaster]

I threaten my guitars with the chainsaw if they don't play nice.

 

[eSGEe]

you have allready HACK-SAWED most of your guitars lol

 

[eSGEe]

Dan E.-- the PRIDE of ATHENS OHIO...........(it doesnt take Much----Ive BEEN to Athens Oh.)

 

[Hackmaster]

you have allready HACK-SAWED most of your guitars lol

Correct, they fear and respect me.

 

[iblive]

Can I sign mine up for your class? Mine are all pretty much zero talent and could use some learnin’.

 

[Cadorman]

I have come to realize that the Gretsch could use some learnin. The neck isn't quite as smart as my Gibsons.

 

[Don O]

Can I sign mine up for your class? Mine are all pretty much zero talent and could use some learnin’.

‘We’re gonna have a BBQ before class to get their attention

 

[Astral Traveler]

Send them all to me for their um... training. My methods have proved quite effective. I'll PM the shipping addresses

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

But come to find out that I never taught my guitar to play great! I’m gonna hold a class for about 6 of them and get them schooled to play great for me

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Actually
pickup replacement and wiring modifications have nothing to do with how a guitar plays.
That just a sales pitch.

Cleaning: that's also a sales gimmick.

It's the fret leveling, the nut and the saddles.
That's what the real issue is.
Separate the hype from what really matters.

 

[jtcnj]

and "stuck in the middle with" the above, the neck relief dialed in.

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

and "stuck in the middle with" the above, the neck relief dialed in.

Neck Relief
Harmonics adjustment
That's what matters.

The string vibrates more in the middle, than at the ends.
This is why the neck must have relief.

 

[Beagle]

This is why the neck must have relief.

I remember people arguing whether it did or not, about 40 years ago. It was just as vitriolic as some of the setup arguments today.

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

I remember people arguing whether it did or not, about 40 years ago. It was just as vitriolic as some of the setup arguments today.

The neck "can" be flat with no relief.
As long as the playing is very light.

The moment picking becomes heavy, that's when the strings will buzz on the frets.

Experienced players can pick the strings very lightly, and have no trouble with fret buzz on a flat neck.
But students who have not learned a lot about picking technique, will have more problems playing lightly.

That is why manufacturer specifies relief, so that heavy picking will not buzz.
Both Gibson and Fender specify relief.

 

[Beagle]

The neck "can" be flat with no relief.
As long as the playing is very light.

The moment picking becomes heavy, that's when the strings will buzz on the frets.

Experienced players can pick the strings very lightly, and have no trouble with fret buzz on a flat neck.
But students who have not learned a lot about picking technique, will have more problems playing lightly.

That is why manufacturer specifies relief, so that heavy picking will not buzz.
Both Gibson and Fender specify relief.

One of my necks has always been flat, no relief at all, for the last 38 years. What other people do doesn't interest me.

 

[jtcnj]

The neck "can" be flat with no relief.
As long as the playing is very light.

The moment picking becomes heavy, that's when the strings will buzz on the frets.

Experienced players can pick the strings very lightly, and have no trouble with fret buzz on a flat neck.
But students who have not learned a lot about picking technique, will have more problems playing lightly.

That is why manufacturer specifies relief, so that heavy picking will not buzz.
Both Gibson and Fender specify relief.

Exactly.
The heavy handedness is me; I dont look at spec. numbers or measure.
I eye ball the low e relief with 1 and 16 fretted and tap the string against 8 to get a good visual.
I need a very little bit of relief at 24 3/4" scale and a touch more at 25 1/2".