Amplifier Tone - Another Fascinating Jim Lill Video

True on both accounts. I don't judge others for how they get their sound. Each of us has unique contributing reasons why we choose one method over another.

Lately, ive been using the @syscokid modded Origin 50 and the 2x12 (Celestion Copperback 250's) cabinet with distance miking for my side projects because it has such an aggressive tone.

One musical friend remarked recently that the tone reminds him of Vernon Reid and i was very pleased to hear that.
 
Backing away from playing last 6 months & sorting through all those studio & home recordings.. All seems to start with drums to me lol..what that have to do with amp tone & where it comes from? Any gear that inspires me for the particular song is 'the" gear to use... my top recording amp believe it or not was Bug 22 combo or head with Gibson SGJ 61 pickups. Actually could of just rolled with that all along except for the downtune stuff

Its the gear you have confidence in is what will always work best..you know it-ya just do & then we spend a mini fortune to wind back up at square 1. lol...

interestingly ended up on TH30 (fender clean-british OD) into greenback 2x12 closed & v-type & v30 semi open) does it all with mic options. How simple. Having all those amps, the TH30 was able to mimic most of them. Messed around comparing & soon as TH30 copped the tone of particualr amp-sold it. For el84(my fav-breakup on edge so easily obtainable anywhere ya want ) it does the heavies also, not sure how & can do the finesse. Maybe its the 6 dif ways you can set the amp from 30 watts down to 7 1/2. 2 tubes -4 tubes. Its like chameleon , the shape knob is insane for eq shift.. only amp have left

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My next amp project Dumble Ultra Phonix channel one Rock Phonix channel two
I have a black face Fender Super Reverb working on a trade Fender 1965 Showman and have a transformer set from a 1965 Pro Reverb
why I don't have one I have played a real one and liked it very much.

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My methodology is very different here, in my discussions with you, than in the real world and i think that's a distinction that's being overlooked herein.

All these years that i worked as a session player, i told nobody nothing of my own opinions. I LISTENED and focused on doing what i was told and that quality kept me steadily employed.

Now, when i am asked specifically whether a given mod will produce a tangible change, i will offer my opinion in that context.

I believe i have a responsibility to my students to tell them something other than "paper in oil is best," or all the other bull:poo: that's been preache for decades, and in that context, i do interject my opinion.

I'll give you a real-world example.

A client recently asked me to change a ceramic disc capacitor - that measured .047uf - for a PIO that measured .047uf. I did what he asked and he was puzzled because it made no difference at all and i told him that it absolutely could not make a discernible difference from a scientific standpoint.

You cannot, in all honesty and candor, compare that to what @syscokid did to the Marshall Origin. Its a completely different thing, regardless of perception, or whther or not you like the tonal change, the tonal change slaps you right upside the head, and even non-musicians have commented on the change, and it is that precise distinction that is being disregarded within the confines of this discussion.

But here you're trying to make exactly the same point with different language: that your perception is correct and the guy that wants the PiO caps' perception is wrong. Whether a beginner or a rock star, every player gets to decide for themselves what makes a difference for them. You can dismiss it as snake oil, and argue that because you feel there is a tangible difference in what you choose to accept over what someone else does your opinion is the correct one, but it is still your opinion and everone else is entitled to experiment and decide for themselves what works/doesn't and what they can themselves hear/feel. There are a lot of very good, very experienced players that swear those PiO caps make a huge and discernible difference in tone...you have to consider the possibility that they are right and you are wrong because that possibility does exist.
 
But here you're trying to make exactly the same point with different language: that your perception is correct and the guy that wants the PiO caps' perception is wrong. Whether a beginner or a rock star, every player gets to decide for themselves what makes a difference for them. You can dismiss it as snake oil, and argue that because you feel there is a tangible difference in what you choose to accept over what someone else does your opinion is the correct one, but it is still your opinion and everone else is entitled to experiment and decide for themselves what works/doesn't and what they can themselves hear/feel. There are a lot of very good, very experienced players that swear those PiO caps make a huge and discernible difference in tone...you have to consider the possibility that they are right and you are wrong because that possibility does exist.

I believe you are reading way too much into this, my good and studious Man.

I don't think i am right, nor wrong. Scientifically, there cannot be any discernible difference in caps of identical value and this has been proven in numerous YouTube videos.

But, musicians are industry-trained to believe that they can hear the difference in everything, and that's the product of decades of marketing strategies, and its a multi-million dollar industry.

Yes, people/musicians have a right to believe whatever they want, but if you ask me what i think, i will probably share that information with you and it might not be something you agree with.

I am not doing quite as much guitar tech work as i used to, but probably 90% of it falls into the unnecessary or the diminishing returns catergory. But, i am pleased to tell you that i still do the work and i still charge for it, but i don't preach the common bullshit "narrative of agreement" with these perspectives based on abstract sciences or industry-spawned beliefs that you see and read about all the time.

I'm not like the Guitar Sinner employee who just agrees with anything and everything a potential consumer says, just to make a sale. I wont allow myself to be placed into that catergory, although blindly agreeing with people seems to earn you lots of friends these days.

I know that i am likely one of your lesst favorite members herein, but you might recall that i went down the Rabbit Hole of swapping out poly covered wire for cloth covered, PIO for Tropical Fish, bone nuts for brass and all other sorts of experiments - at considerable expense - then did 'A'/'B' recordings and had a half dozen of my studio work colleagues listen and comment on their thoughts.

In the end, i probably wasted over $2,000 on these experiments and ended up giving complete project guitars away or donating them to the music a academy, just to make room in my home studio.

And based on those experiences, i do not feel that sharing my opinion is wrong, even if it conflicts with socially acceptably norms based on skillful marketing strategies.

I see your point that people's wishes and opinions should be respected. I get that. But, at the same time, i feel an obligation to a music student - or a client - to be the voice of reason when discussing any investment in their equipment, especially when they expect a "night-and-day difference" when switching from a ceramic dis .047uf to a PIO .047uf.

Don't you think that's reasonable???
 
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