Amp tone and volume

RVA said:
Thanks again guys. I have lost my center lately and I have been riding myself pretty hard in all regards. I will try to lighten up!
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Ray, I saw a movie once and Tom Cruise played the role of "you" losing your center. But it all worked out in the end. Oh and one of the best one liners in a movie ever.
"I don't believe this. I have a trig mid term tomorrow, and I'm being chased by Guido the Killer Pimp"

 
RVA said:
Ok, thanks. It is so odd that some days it all falls into place and others I cannot put 2 notes together. It is almost always attributable to emotional tension
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RVA said:
I had to get back on the recording horse after falling on my face yesterday. I think I got a fair to good EQ balance (for this song anyway) at high volume. This is the Phase amp on the "Marshall" gain channel, the amp that led me to start this thread. Not a great performance, tone or recording by any means, but it would work in a mix and serves as a starting point for the endless knob tweaking we all do!

https://soundcloud.com/id%3Duser-903662928%252Fsm13%3Btrack_id%3D719528683
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Man that was smooth Ray! very soothing, Well done Sir!!
 
RVA said:
Can anyone explain why I find it so much harder to dial in a good tone on an amp at higher volumes? It does not matter what amp, or which guitar I match it with. I am not talking about breakup, but balance. It seems that I am all over the EQ after I pass 4-5.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
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1. Because first the preamp saturates and reaches a point of compression.
When that compression wall is reached the EQ in the preamp is no longer effective.
(it's like banging up against a wall where there is a limit you cannot exceed)

If you were to EQ in the loop after the preamp you would have much more control.

2. And likewise, the power amp also saturates.
3. And then the speaker also saturates.

Ultimately if you mic the speaker and use EQ at the mixer you have more consistent control.
(because the mic and the mixer do not go into saturation and compression)

So on a more basic level without a mic and mixer you best option is to EQ in the loop.
There are also speaker attenuators with EQ options now days which also provides some control.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
1. Because first the preamp saturates and reaches a point of compression.
When that compression wall is reached the EQ in the preamp is no longer effective.
(it's like banging up against a wall where there is a limit you cannot exceed)

If you were to EQ in the loop after the preamp you would have much more control.

2. And likewise, the power amp also saturates.
3. And then the speaker also saturates.

Ultimately if you mic the speaker and use EQ at the mixer you have more consistent control.
(because the mic and the mixer do not go into saturation and compression)

So on a more basic level without a mic and mixer you best option is to EQ in the loop.
There are also speaker attenuators with EQ options now days which also provides some control.
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Thank you!! I had a para EQ in the FX loop, but moved it in front. I will get another for the loop.
 
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