Alnico Cream 90 vs. Creamback 65

I've given as much time as I'm going to, more time than I've ever given it it before and I can say with certainty that the Creamback 75 is just not my thing...at all! I can dial in a decent sound don't get me wrong, but it's too much work. It sounds thin and "empty" clean, yuck...and I have to fight with it to get high gain sounds that I can work with. I'm officially done with it. It's for sale. I can't for the life of me see how anyone prefers a 75 over a 65.

@fitz ,brother...I gotta to figure out how to keep you out of my head. :ROFLMAO:
 
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As for the Jensen Nighthawk...it a killer speaker and I hope to someday find a home for it in another cab, but I've put the Alnico Cream 90s back in. They are doing it for me right now with this EVH cab. I think I'll leave them alone.
 
DirtySteve said:
I can say with certainty that the Creamback 75 is just not my thing...at all! I can dial in a decent sound don't get me wrong, but it's too much work. It sounds thin and "empty" clean
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I've been running my H-75 CB's in particleboard cabs with 50w iron.
EQ in the loop is usually a mid-boost hump, and it works for me.
Finding the balance between the stuff you have, and the tone you want, sometimes takes a lot of trial and error with a dash of dumb luck.

DirtySteve said:
I've put the Alnico Cream 90s back in. They are doing it for me right now with this EVH cab. I think I'll leave them alone.
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If you keep coming back to that combination of variables, it probably means you've found a good balance.
I've put my Alnico's back in my O20 rig with ply cabs and I think they're staying right there.
The other O20 is running M-65 CB's in the CODE50 cabs and the stereo blend is sublime.
 
fitz said:
I've been running my H-75 CB's in particleboard cabs with 50w iron.
EQ in the loop is usually a mid-boost hump, and it works for me.
Finding the balance between the stuff you have, and the tone you want, sometimes takes a lot of trial and error with a dash of dumb luck.
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It definitely needed a lot of mids added to make it sound good, but it still wasn't doing it for me. I'm not (at least at this point) doing an eq in the loop just to get a speaker to sound good. I'd rather just move of and chalk it up as lesson learned.

fitz said:
If you keep coming back to that combination of variables, it probably means you've found a good balance.
I've put my Alnico's back in my O20 rig with ply cabs and I think they're staying right there.
The other O20 is running M-65 CB's in the CODE50 cabs and the stereo blend is sublime.
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Yeah, I'm not saying they're perfect, but out of what I have on hand with the way I have my Origin set up and my EVH cab they sound the best. I wish my CB65s sounded better in the EVH cab, but they're kind of dark speakers and so is the EVH cab so I need another cab for them. That's the second 212 I mentioned I need earlier in the thread. Then I need a 112 for my ET65 and another 112 for my Night Hawk. I know I'll never do all that unless things change, I don't have the space for all that.

And there are still several speakers I want to try yet. It's crazy! :shock:

...and I'm just trying to get one rig sorted out. If I had all the amps and cabs you have I would be a basket case! :LOL:
 
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EQ in the loop is a game changer for me.
If my amp has a loop, there's an EQ in it.
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I've never used a loop before and now that I have one (that works) I want to, but I just hate the extra cables in my way when I want to move things around, like when swapping speakers I have to take my whole amp down and those cables were a PITA. I guess it's just because I'm not used to dealing with it and I have yet to see the benefit, I've never had much luck an eq and I don't use delay or chorus or reverb or anything that ideally should be in the loop...not yet anyway. I was using my Haunting Mids in the loop for a while, but the cables kept getting in my way and I took it out.

I need to find a better way and I need a pedal board.
 
DirtySteve said:
I'm a dummy, I have no idea what that does.
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It’s just a cable junction…on the amp, run cables from the send and return jacks to the top(from amp send)and bottom(from amp return) of a channel in the back of the box. If you want to plug something into the fx loop, run a cable from the pedal input to the top jack on the front of the bay, and the pedal output to the bottom jack on the front of the bay…
If you don’t want anything in the loop, just remove the jacks from the front of the bay, and the bay switches to connect the send and return automatically.
You can swap things in and out, A/B, etc with ease. The box can sit in any convenient spot.
 
DirtySteve said:
I've never used a loop before and now that I have one (that works) I want to, but I just hate the extra cables in my way when I want to move things around, like when swapping speakers I have to take my whole amp down and those cables were a PITA. I guess it's just because I'm not used to dealing with it and I have yet to see the benefit, I've never had much luck an eq and I don't use delay or chorus or reverb or anything that ideally should be in the loop...not yet anyway. I was using my Haunting Mids in the loop for a while, but the cables kept getting in my way and I took it out.

I need to find a better way and I need a pedal board.
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My Origin20 boards:
Just unplug the input, send & return cables from the amp.
Disconnect the power supply and stereo connection and the whole boards lift away.
Once you set up a pedal board, it's not much harder to disconnect than a single pedal.

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Thatbastarddon said:
It’s just a cable junction…on the amp, run cables from the send and return jacks to the top(from amp send)and bottom(from amp return) of a channel in the back of the box. If you want to plug something into the fx loop, run a cable from the pedal input to the top jack on the front of the bay, and the pedal output to the bottom jack on the front of the bay…
If you don’t want anything in the loop, just remove the jacks from the front of the bay, and the bay switches to connect the send and return automatically.
You can swap things in and out, A/B, etc with ease. The box can sit in any convenient spot.
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So that means I need even more cables? Sorry, I can't wrap my head around that right now.
 
DirtySteve said:
I'm a dummy, I have no idea what that does.
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From the manual…

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I was referring to the “normal” mode…bottom row.
I do use the “half normal” mode to run a “wet/dry” rig(top row, column B). A setup to use the preamp for one amp running with nothing in the loop, while pushing an effects chain to a second amplifier return…thus using only the power amp of the second(wet) amp. It’s a really cool way to run atmospheric effects, while retaining a solid core tone. But that’s another story altogether.
 
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DirtySteve said:
So that means I need even more cables? Sorry, I can't wrap my head around that right now.
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Yeah….sorry…I’m one to buy a 20 foot cable, and a 20 pack of right angle jacks…to make 10 two foot cables.

….and yeah….thats way advanced for you, but the simple pass through for a fixed installation is amazeballs. Makes life easy.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
From the manual…

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I was referring to the “normal” mode…bottom row.
I do use the “half normal” mode to run a “wet/dry” rig. A setup to use the preamp for one amp running with nothing in the loop, while pushing an effects chain to a second amplifier return…thus using only the power amp of the second(wet) amp. It’s a really cool way to run atmospheric effects, while retaining a solid core tone. But that’s another story altogether.
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Don, I appreciate that you're trying to help me I really do, but this is way over my head. I'm sorry, but this is what I see. :ROFLMAO:

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