ALL THINGS AEROSMITH

gball said:
I'll go first 5 - I think Draw The Line is awesome, and the sleaziest of any of them - and I will even go for about half of Night In The Ruts. After that...er, hard no on pretty much everything they have done. There are a few tunes on Rock In A Hard Place that could have been great with Brad and Joe but were just an interesing experiment with Jimmy Crespo and Rick Dufay.

I've seen Aerosmith live more than any other band, in their heyday, and short of Ace Frehley they are probably the #1 reason I ever wanted to pick up a guitar as a kid. They were the biggest, baddest American band on the planet for a while there.

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In my generation, it was the time of Permanent Vacation onward via the MTV days. I always thought they were cool just from that, especially as massive as Get A Grip was ( you gotta remember this was a band that was about 20 years old and staying incredibly relevant at a time when Janet Jackson ruled the airwaves, Grunge was now the soup dejour and hip-hop and gangsta rap was taking over). Seeing videos with the gorgeous Alicia Silverstone as I was a kid coming of age certainly helped my affection for them lol.

But it was through my dad that I got into the classic era aroiund the same time this was going on as well. I had definitely heard Toys In the Attic but now I was getting exposed to the debut, Get Your Wings ( 2nd favorite album of theirs) and then the immortal Rocks. So while most kids my age had the idea of Aerosmith confined to just the MTV era, I was getting the full history and learning to play guitar from that which was awesome
 
Clockworkmike said:
In my generation, it was the time of Permanent Vacation onward via the MTV days. I always thought they were cool just from that, especially as massive as Get A Grip was ( you gotta remember this was a band that was about 20 years old and staying incredibly relevant at a time when Janet Jackson ruled the airwaves, Grunge was now the soup dejour and hip-hop and gangsta rap was taking over). Seeing videos with the gorgeous Alicia Silverstone as I was a kid coming of age certainly helped my affection for them lol.

But it was through my dad that I got into the classic era aroiund the same time this was going on as well. I had definitely heard Toys In the Attic but now I was getting exposed to the debut, Get Your Wings ( 2nd favorite album of theirs) and then the immortal Rocks. So while most kids my age had the idea of Aerosmith confined to just the MTV era, I was getting the full history and learning to play guitar from that which was awesome
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"Rocks" is it for me. Wore that sucka out.

As a testament to that albums greatness, IMHO Etc..., I'll still listen to it... not sick of it yet! Like most bands that I like, their first few albums are the best. Youthful exuberance, they have that fire. That Rocks album has it. IMO Etc...
 
steveb63 said:
"Rocks" is it for me. Wore that sucka out.

As a testament to that albums greatness, IMHO Etc..., I'll still listen to it... not sick of it yet! Like most bands that I like, their first few albums are the best. Youthful exuberance, they have that fire. That Rocks album has it. IMO Etc...
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Totally agree. I mentioned in another thread topic about albums that at 10/10 and that was definitely one. A perfect album thru and thru
 
Clockworkmike said:
Definitely were their strongest for the first 4 albums, maybe the first 5 if we stretch a bit. After that? Pump and Get a Grip did have some great stuff too if I'm being fair, albeit a lil inflated with some sappy stuff. They did have a few songs in the era in between I liked such as Chip Away At The Stone and Rag Doll but that's nearly a decade gap with only two standouts for me.

As much as I thought Joe Perry was epitome of cool, it was actually Brad Whitford I always kinda leaned towards. I always thought and still think he is so grossly underrated. Nobody's Fault and Kings and Queens were his ideas and showed how he could take the band in an unbelievably heavy direction if they wanted
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I still love the first three records. As much as people love Rocks, it didn't do much for me. I do like "Kings and Queens" and "Draw the Line" from Draw the Line, but it's not one of my favorite records. Maybe if they put more time into it, instead of an excuse to keep Tom H. out of jail it could have been better. But that was also in the days of Tyler and Perry eating massive amounts of methaqualone, snorting tons of blow, and drinking who knows what. Toxic Twins at their finest. Anything after that, where they just picked songs from Desmond Childs and other writers is not even in my radar. But, I should give Honkin' on Bobo a good listen. It's supposed to sound like their early days. Some of the members of the band said they wished they recorded an originals album at that time, and just lock themselves in an apartment and write together again. Something they hadn't done in many, many years.

As far as Whitford is concerned, give the early records a real good listen. He's playing all the good licks, hooks, and everything else that is establishing the songs. He is an amazing player. I loved the stuff he did with Derek St. Holms. I wish that they recorded more stuff. It seemed like they were always playing at the Channel in Boston in the early '80s.

I also love the first two Joe Perry Project records. Ralph Morman and Charlie Farren were both excellent singers. As much as I like Mach Bell, and run into him often, I don't think he is as good of a singer as Charlie. Check out some Farrenheit stuff if you can. They were a great band back in the day.
 
SG John said:
I still love the first three records. As much as people love Rocks, it didn't do much for me. I do like "Kings and Queens" and "Draw the Line" from Draw the Line, but it's not one of my favorite records. Maybe if they put more time into it, instead of an excuse to keep Tom H. out of jail it could have been better. But that was also in the days of Tyler and Perry eating massive amounts of methaqualone, snorting tons of blow, and drinking who knows what. Toxic Twins at their finest. Anything after that, where they just picked songs from Desmond Childs and other writers is not even in my radar. But, I should give Honkin' on Bobo a good listen. It's supposed to sound like their early days. Some of the members of the band said they wished they recorded an originals album at that time, and just lock themselves in an apartment and write together again. Something they hadn't done in many, many years.

As far as Whitford is concerned, give the early records a real good listen. He's playing all the good licks, hooks, and everything else that is establishing the songs. He is an amazing player. I loved the stuff he did with Derek St. Holms. I wish that they recorded more stuff. It seemed like they were always playing at the Channel in Boston in the early '80s.

I also love the first two Joe Perry Project records. Ralph Morman and Charlie Farren were both excellent singers. As much as I like Mach Bell, and run into him often, I don't think he is as good of a singer as Charlie. Check out some Farrenheit stuff if you can. They were a great band back in the day.
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Well said. JPP was great


And yep, Whitford doesn't get the credit he deserves.
 
SG John said:
I still love the first three records. As much as people love Rocks, it didn't do much for me. I do like "Kings and Queens" and "Draw the Line" from Draw the Line, but it's not one of my favorite records. Maybe if they put more time into it, instead of an excuse to keep Tom H. out of jail it could have been better. But that was also in the days of Tyler and Perry eating massive amounts of methaqualone, snorting tons of blow, and drinking who knows what. Toxic Twins at their finest. Anything after that, where they just picked songs from Desmond Childs and other writers is not even in my radar. But, I should give Honkin' on Bobo a good listen. It's supposed to sound like their early days. Some of the members of the band said they wished they recorded an originals album at that time, and just lock themselves in an apartment and write together again. Something they hadn't done in many, many years.

As far as Whitford is concerned, give the early records a real good listen. He's playing all the good licks, hooks, and everything else that is establishing the songs. He is an amazing player. I loved the stuff he did with Derek St. Holms. I wish that they recorded more stuff. It seemed like they were always playing at the Channel in Boston in the early '80s.

I also love the first two Joe Perry Project records. Ralph Morman and Charlie Farren were both excellent singers. As much as I like Mach Bell, and run into him often, I don't think he is as good of a singer as Charlie. Check out some Farrenheit stuff if you can. They were a great band back in the day.
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I do not believe Derek St. Holmes is a certified "rockstar", more of a greatly talented musician. The album with Derek and Brad W is just awesome.

You know why Terrible Ted always used St. Holmes? Because he is an exceptional singer, and just plain kick azz on the guitar. I'm so fortunate to have these talented bands around when just starting to play, gave me tons of inspiration.
 
steveb63 said:
I do not believe Derek St. Holmes is a certified "rockstar", more of a greatly talented musician. The album with Derek and Brad W is just awesome.

You know why Terrible Ted always used St. Holmes? Because he is an exceptional singer, and just plain kick azz on the guitar. I'm so fortunate to have these talented bands around when just starting to play, gave me tons of inspiration.
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Derek is a solid rock, no star needed.

 
steveb63 said:
I do not believe Derek St. Holmes is a certified "rockstar", more of a greatly talented musician. The album with Derek and Brad W is just awesome.

You know why Terrible Ted always used St. Holmes? Because he is an exceptional singer, and just plain kick azz on the guitar. I'm so fortunate to have these talented bands around when just starting to play, gave me tons of inspiration.
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Plain and simple, Nugent wasn't jack $hit without that band he built in the mid 70s with Cliff Davies on drums, Rob Grange on bass and Derek St Holmes on guitar and vocals. THAT is the band that made Nuge a household name and he never came close to recapturing that amazing success and creativity without them. He had some hits along the way afterwards obviously, but his golden era was with that eponymous debut album to Cal Jam 2, which sadly was the last time they all shared the same stage. Nugent very arrogantly lead the band to break up by constant abuse towards Derek and flat out ripping off Rob in shady management. Only Cliff stayed but left after Scream Dream for being ripped off as well.

It was at that time too, that Nugent lost focus on the music being foremost and began dividing up his time with the hunting thing and then started to get too political as well. It's a downright shame all these things happened because the fact is if one single person made me pick up the guitar in the first place? It was Ted. For a 12 year old kid discovering this raccoon-tailed wearing caveman absolutely make a Byrdland roar to the point that feedback became a sonic weapon: it was a revelation and everything I wanted to do. I mean this was 1995 and he was long past the glory days but to me, there wasn't anything like this guy. The sun rose and sat on this dude for me.

It's a shame things have gotten so far away from what it was all about initially: the music and an absolute kickass band.
 
Clockworkmike said:
Plain and simple, Nugent wasn't jack $hit without that band he built in the mid 70s with Cliff Davies on drums, Rob Grange on bass and Derek St Holmes on guitar and vocals. THAT is the band that made Nuge a household name and he never came close to recapturing that amazing success and creativity without them. He had some hits along the way afterwards obviously, but his golden era was with that eponymous debut album to Cal Jam 2, which sadly was the last time they all shared the same stage. Nugent very arrogantly lead the band to break up by constant abuse towards Derek and flat out ripping off Rob in shady management. Only Cliff stayed but left after Scream Dream for being ripped off as well.

It was at that time too, that Nugent lost focus on the music being foremost and began dividing up his time with the hunting thing and then started to get too political as well. It's a downright shame all these things happened because the fact is if one single person made me pick up the guitar in the first place? It was Ted. For a 12 year old kid discovering this raccoon-tailed wearing caveman absolutely make a Byrdland roar to the point that feedback became a sonic weapon: it was a revelation and everything I wanted to do. I mean this was 1995 and he was long past the glory days but to me, there wasn't anything like this guy. The sun rose and sat on this dude for me.

It's a shame things have gotten so far away from what it was all about initially: the music and an absolute kickass band.
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Agreed.^^^^^^^^^ Wore that Free for All album out, and probably a cassette as well!
 
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