AI Unethical Use Of

Read and watch the video Chilli. Click on the yellow words.


These are not my words, they are someone else's. But I agree with what this person say's


There is a difference in an AI band and AI generated lyrics/music.

I can here the difference with an AI band.

Don't like the fact that AI is also generating lyrics and new tunes that will change music forever.
Destroying human creativity.
Why should kids be creative when a computer can do it for them?
Why should they even learn math skills?

There is also quite a bit of "gray" area where music is partially created by humans and other parts are computer generated.

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AI is dangerous on so many fronts not related to music but will be a part of our lives weather we like it or not. Potentially more dangerous than anything that has been created on earth. If we don't control it, it may control us. May sound extreme but we live in a different time
 
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I know very little about the working of AI. I have played with it a little. Few days ago I used Copilot that comes with Windows to suggest some settings for my Boss GT1. Got that idea from @Headache. And I got answers. We’ll see how that works out.

But awhile back I did go into one of those freebe online AI sights to try something. I’ve had partial lyrics for a chorus. And nothing else. I have zero imagination when it comes to lyrics. While I didn’t flunk poetry writing in school…. I barely got a passing grade. Soooo…. Plugged the line for the chorus and some ideas into the website and got a song. (Lyrics). No music. If anything ever comes to fruition from this, I will not take credit for the lyrics. I will state AI wrote the poem. However…. For this to come to fruition I will need music. Notes. Chords. Etc. That part I will do and take credit for it. Good or bad.
 
Seamus OReally said:
ChatGPT gave me three pages of detailed instructions for setting up my UAFX amp pedal to produce a tone similar to Robben Ford’s on his recording of “Cut You Loose.” It didn’t work. I wasn’t surprised.
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I haven't tried it yet on my GT1, but I have my doubts as well. I guess if it gets me close I can tweak from there. Like I stated somewhere.... the Acoustic Patch loaded as a preset from Boss wasn't even close. Fortunately, there's a computer interface you can program the box from. Don't have to do it using that tiny little screen and three knobs on the box. Needless to say. Screwing around with it for about an hour has gotten me pretty close. Still needs some work.
 
I have used it to find a connector for a 5mm ball for the carb sleeve, on a radio control engine. It gave me other forums on rc/aircraft, that led me to some threads , that the guys didn't even know what they were talking about, they were wrong.

I read somewhere, where it said AI might not be correct. No kidding eh!:D
 
My youngest is embracing parts of AI. With limits. I honestly am not sure 100% what he does other than customer support/service. One of the things where he's embracing AI is emails. Personal emails..... he still types word for word. Group informational type emails, he lets AI create it. Using AI he can crank out one of those emails in seconds after he inputs what needs to be said..... minutes with his review and any corrections he may have to make..... vs 30-40 minutes to put said email together one word at a time. He loves that aspect of AI.
 
Norm, that yellow looks like a signature tag line and gives no clue it's a video or link to click on. Maybe you can revise your initial message to say something like, " I came across a message or video about AI and the detrimental effects on the music industry... " It can be seen by clicking on the yellow below....
 
Seamus OReally said:
ChatGPT gave me three pages of detailed instructions for setting up my UAFX amp pedal to produce a tone similar to Robben Ford’s on his recording of “Cut You Loose.” It didn’t work. I wasn’t surprised.
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I found Dumble ODS #102 a complex build I started off with 1971 Fender Twin Iron spent two years fine tuning it 85% there
rebuilt the preamp and power amp five times my voltages were exact to the real #102 I called my friend Robert he sold me
a set of NOS 28 year old transformer set Magic parts once I adjusted the dropping string and used a NOS quad of pre 1974 USA
6L6GC and 3 RCA 12AX7 gray plate all tubes matched I used the same speakers as Robin G12-65's x2
I gifted the amp to a friend it survived 3.5 years world tours treble pot failed and the 6L6GC were used up I tried every brand of new production
6L6GC not the same I did learn a wealth of information on that build every part makes a difference

ODS-100 High Plate Classis 001.JPG.
 
So I was messing with Windows Copilot yesterday. Just for kicks and grins I typed in the question (paraphrased) "compare X pickup from company A to Y pickup from company B." Hit Enter and had two pages of info in maybe 5 seconds. Descriptions of the pickups. A table so I could compare side by side the virtues of each. Copilot suggested what type of music each pup would be good at. I believe it may have given me specs on each pup.

Nothing I learned was info I could not have found using the Google machine. Difference... I would have been researching for at least an hour. Searching forums. Manufactures web site. Reviews. Reddit. Etc. By that point, I would have no longer cared. Using Copilot I had answers in less time than it took me to type the question.

I get the ethical question of using AI to create songs and sell them as "originals." As AI gets better at it, unless the person says up front AI wrote and produced this song.... most of the population will never be able to tell. We have some folk here in TTR dabbling with AI to help produce songs. They are up front with it and tell us that's what they are doing or have done. To me that just makes it another tool. Some people..... like me..... have zero creativity with writing poems/lyrics and barely have enough talent to come up with the music.
 
After I posted the previous post, I went back into Copilot. Actually, still had it on screen. I guess I feel this is a good use of AI. I got some answers and saved a ton of time. I like that.

Asked this question: "why should i use AI to compare specific guitar pickups from competing companies?"

This is how Copilot responded. First half of response was "general" info, the 2nd half was specific to what I had been researching yesterday. Sharing the first half.

1. Instant access to the big picture

Pickups aren’t just “hotter” or “vintage.” They differ in:
  • magnet type
  • coil design
  • output level
  • frequency response
  • taper interaction
  • wiring quirks
  • how they behave with different pots, caps, and pickup heights
I can pull all of that together in one place so you don’t have to bounce between forums, spec sheets, and YouTube demos.

2. Neutral, side‑by‑side comparisons

Manufacturers hype their own products.
Forums are full of opinions.
YouTube demos depend on the player, the guitar, the strings, the room, the mic…

I can cut through all that and give you:
  • what each pickup is designed to do
  • how it behaves in real‑world setups
  • where the differences actually matter
No brand loyalty, no marketing spin.
 
AI is the gun , you want to ban. Metaphorically.
The problem is Spotify wants money no matter where it’s generated from.
AI should have controlled parameters to prevent bands being copied and pasted real time. If they get away with it, someone cheated the system . A growing scenario in every facet of life.
Don’t kill the messenger.
 
iblive said:
After I posted the previous post, I went back into Copilot. Actually, still had it on screen. I guess I feel this is a good use of AI. I got some answers and saved a ton of time. I like that.

Asked this question: "why should i use AI to compare specific guitar pickups from competing companies?"

This is how Copilot responded. First half of response was "general" info, the 2nd half was specific to what I had been researching yesterday. Sharing the first half.

1. Instant access to the big picture

Pickups aren’t just “hotter” or “vintage.” They differ in:
  • magnet type
  • coil design
  • output level
  • frequency response
  • taper interaction
  • wiring quirks
  • how they behave with different pots, caps, and pickup heights
I can pull all of that together in one place so you don’t have to bounce between forums, spec sheets, and YouTube demos.

2. Neutral, side‑by‑side comparisons

Manufacturers hype their own products.
Forums are full of opinions.
YouTube demos depend on the player, the guitar, the strings, the room, the mic…

I can cut through all that and give you:
  • what each pickup is designed to do
  • how it behaves in real‑world setups
  • where the differences actually matter
No brand loyalty, no marketing spin.
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Now ask it the same exact question again.

Does it give you the same exact answer?

Then, ask it the same question, but word it just slightly differently.

Does it's answer change again, if at all?

What if you add an element of emotional inflection? Imply that you are angry, or dissatisfied. Or maybe that you are overcome with joy that AI has come to 'save' us from needing to research because it can 'cut through all that'.

Watch how it's reactions will adjust to match your input.

Depending on exactly how you word your queries, your responses can be wildly different. If you push back and insist it's wrong, sometimes the answers can be interesting. Try calling it names. Try calling other people or groups of people names. What are it's limits? What can you get it to 'admit'?

Soon, you'll be trying to trick it, which can be fun.

I like to get them to try to tattle on each other. I'll ask Gemini, "why won't Grok tell me about _____?" and then I'll ask Grok the same thing about Gemini. Certain systems have been programmed to not talk about (i.e. supress) certain things, and other systems have been programmed to not talk about other certain things as well. I try to pit them against each other.

Ask it a question but tell it to exclude certain sources. Ask it the same question but now tell it to include those sources but exclude another different source.

I once told AI that I'm an 80s child, and I thought it was the most bitchin rad decade ever, and the rest of the conversation, it was using 80s lexicon. I must admit, that was like, totally bodacious, dude.

AI can be manipulated.

It's also a tool that 'they' can and probably do use to manipulate us.



Gag me with a spoon!
 
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