Aaaaaaarrrrghh!

As a lifelong 'Merican, let me just say, "Pounds, shillings, and pence" does sound kind of cool. I don't know how ya'll feel about it, but it sounds like a wild (in a good way) sort of way to figure currency.

Then again...I like the term, "shire", too. Maybe, I'm a bit too "Tolkien-esque".

Well, back in the day it was just how we did it, so it didn't feel odd. But I do remember the slight sigh of relief when we eventually went decimal. As for Shire, you do still have it - sort of. The man who ran a Shire was called a Reeve, and Shire Reeve got shortened to Sheriff.
 
I remember, 1960 farthings ceased to be legal tender in Australia. They hadn't been minted since 1956 and were seldom seen BUT because they were about to go out of circulation shops started advertising products at prices that finished with 3 farthings. They made a big deal of saying, "Yes you get a farthing in your change".

A farthing was 1/2 a half penny,
Or 1/4 of a penny,
Or 1/48 of a schilling,
Or 1/960 of a pound.
In other words today worth 1/480 of a dollar = not very much.

In 1966 when we were going decimal I'd take 2 schillings to the bank and ask for half pennies. Take them home and find those with dates not in my collection. Then I'd return them to a different bank and ask for 2 schillings then move on to another bank and do the same again and again. I still have my half penny collection but naturally the couple of valuable dates were and are still missing :-(
 
I remember, 1960 farthings ceased to be legal tender in Australia. They hadn't been minted since 1956 and were seldom seen BUT because they were about to go out of circulation shops started advertising products at prices that finished with 3 farthings. They made a big deal of saying, "Yes you get a farthing in your change".

A farthing was 1/2 a half penny,
Or 1/4 of a penny,
Or 1/48 of a schilling,
Or 1/960 of a pound.
In other words today worth 1/480 of a dollar = not very much.

In 1966 when we were going decimal I'd take 2 schillings to the bank and ask for half pennies. Take them home and find those with dates not in my collection. Then I'd return them to a different bank and ask for 2 schillings then move on to another bank and do the same again and again. I still have my half penny collection but naturally the couple of valuable dates were and are still missing :-(

You used a Germanic spelling for Schilling? We did it without the c - shilling. And farthing is an old Anglo-Saxon word for a quarter (four-thing).
 
You used a Germanic spelling for Schilling? We did it without the c - shilling. And farthing is an old Anglo-Saxon word for a quarter (four-thing).

You're correct and my mistake.
Been 53 years since Feb 1966 when we last handled "shillings".
 
hee hee. Hardly patronising at all - but couldn't they find any Aussies willing do the voiceover?

That period of time was close to the end of the days when out national broadcaster and senior public officials still had cultural cringe. The perceived accent officially and abroad was either still British or full on Chips Rafferty.

 
@Gahr
This is incredibly eerie coincidence:
I am looking to correct or greatly lessen the nick dive on the Agile AD-2300 I got last week.
I solve that, it is a keeper and maybe a hard #1.
If I don't, I will ring up @chilipeppermaniac as he has showed interest.

The heavy black Grovers currently on the Agile will go great on my AXL LP Jr I have wanted to put better tuners on.

I just ordered these about an hour ago after researching the last few days:

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Like Don and others here I'm of the age that grew up using imperial units but as an adult witnessed our country advance into the metric system.
You should be able to figure out my attitude by my use of the word "advance".
Strangely I can only imagine if a person is tall or short by thinking feet and inches. Talk about a length of timber or distance to the next town, metric all day for me. Don't get me started on how stupid Pounds, Shillings and Pence was.

I'm a mile man when it comes to distances. But like Gasket and Don, I grew up in school that worked the metric system into our math education. Since my 1 foot long school spec'd ruler had inches on one side and a 30+ cm/mm side made things super easy plus any dummy should be able to count to 10 and multiply and divide by 10. Also, how hard is it REALLY? Our money is based 100's and fractions thereof. From penny to nickel to a dime to a quarter to a dollar etc. A penny is 1/100th of a dollar, therefore 100 pennies = 1 dollar. A cm is in a similar proportion as a penny is to a dollar. A cm is 1/100th of a Metre, now just interchange a penny for a cm and a dollar for a metre and you are in business. Unlike the cm/mm relationship, there is no 1/10th of a penny, but all one has to know is 10 mm's = 1 cm and it is simple as that.

Pounds shillings and pence did have one important benefit. We learned, without even thinking about it, how to reckon numbers in all sorts of different bases. That was an important mathematical skill that those who have only ever known decimal don't have. It is getting better now that computers are nudging us towards binary, octal and hexadecimal, but they are so closely related that they really only count as one.

Kind of like DonP says, we learned without even thinking about it...
As a carpenter, I am fully capable of measuring quickly in Inches, fractions of inches, mm's cm's, yards( length NOT cubic yards of volume), Metres, KM's if needed etc. Heck, many times I used the manner of measuring I like best, " the dummy method"
This is where I take an item and put a mark on it and whatever that measurement is is irrelevant because it is THE measurement. I make my cut there.
Heck there have been times I have even taken my pencil and laid it against some place on my work and eyeball where the length falls between 2 letters on the name or specs of the pencil and then lay it on my wood and mark the length between the E and the Z or whatever LOL.

As for pounds, shillings etc, WTF is a quid?

Now back to measuring lengths,,,,,,,, As a carpenter like I said, I can measure in all manner of whatever you call ems. BUT don't give me a tape that is so "busy" with all types of numbers like Harry Homeowner tapes that have 1/16 1/8 3/16 1/4 3/8 etc etc etc etc all printed out so as to make it nearly impossible to read the little lines and the big number 1, 2, 3, 4 INCH, CM etc marks that make quick sight reading of a tape SIMPLE and easy.

Some of our tapes come so full of numbers I can't use em. I do not need tape measure makers to label each 1/16 or 1/8 like the one pictured below because I can count or divide or multiply. Those extra numbers just foul me up if I need to pull a measurement from right to left or left to right. I can't read either side of the tape by instinct because of all those extra fraction numbers in the way.

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Same goes for this Metric/Imperial tape. While I can read it in time, it slows me down having to "see" the measurement when the sight picture is "too busy"

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Ideally I want a tape with all one scale of numbers, 2 sides of graduations in the same breakup of increments on both sides like these.
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As a lifelong 'Merican, let me just say, "Pounds, shillings, and pence" does sound kind of cool. I don't know how ya'll feel about it, but it sounds like a wild (in a good way) sort of way to figure currency.

Then again...I like the term, "shire", too. Maybe, I'm a bit too "Tolkien-esque".

bucks--dough--moola--payola--scratch--- shillings willings hence pence fence yen hens as long as it s PROFIT --Im in ;)


I have no clue what Smitty just said....re: shires and tolkiens, but I fully understand esgee speak.
You beat us by five years. We didn't go decimal until 1971. I feel ashamed at our backwardness :bow:

I remember doing metric somewhere around 1972-74 at about 8-10 years old. Little did I know I would be using a tape measure every day of my adult life after age 24.
 
I remember, 1960 farthings ceased to be legal tender in Australia. They hadn't been minted since 1956 and were seldom seen BUT because they were about to go out of circulation shops started advertising products at prices that finished with 3 farthings. They made a big deal of saying, "Yes you get a farthing in your change".

A farthing was 1/2 a half penny,
Or 1/4 of a penny,
Or 1/48 of a schilling,
Or 1/960 of a pound.
In other words today worth 1/480 of a dollar = not very much.

In 1966 when we were going decimal I'd take 2 schillings to the bank and ask for half pennies. Take them home and find those with dates not in my collection. Then I'd return them to a different bank and ask for 2 schillings then move on to another bank and do the same again and again. I still have my half penny collection but naturally the couple of valuable dates were and are still missing :-(

At my Mom's I have some Australian pennies - minted 1944 - they are copper and about 45mm in diameter!
 
At my Mom's I have some Australian pennies - minted 1944 - they are copper and about 45mm in diameter!
Cool, you're all set to learn how to play "two up," the best form of gambling ever devised. Best odds too. 15508689451821481735662868426165.png
You can google/download the rules/instructions. Ignore any saying to use 3 coins, can't be two up with 3 coins now can it. Cheers
 
Ok, this is a trifle, but sometimes you just make silly mistakes that annoy you when you find out.

I just bought a set of double ring Kluson keystone tuners to put on my Derek Trucks SG, for no other reason than to "vintagify" it further (the ideal is a 1964/early 1965 Standard). I got them in the mail today, but didn't realize I had forgotten to buy the conversion bushings needed because of the 10 mm hole used for the modern Klusons. I didn't remember until I had already taken the first tuner off the guitar. I kind of felt like a kid opening a Christmas present only to find it broken, and knowing the store will be closed for three days so he can't swap it for an unbroken one right away. I got childishly pissed off at myself, promptly ordered a set of the needed bushings and I'm already unpatiently waiting for them to arrive. I bet I won't have them for at least four days yet...

Btw., these are the tuners:
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Those knobs kind of look like they are glow in the dark - which would be pretty cool if they were...
 
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