9 types of guitar collectors never to become.
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LiveeviL2000
Ambassador of Pentagonal Pentatonics
I think he generalized extremes.
I think everyone can identify with portions of some or most of those categories.
I think everyone can identify with portions of some or most of those categories.
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
I do for sure but I think I fit in to more than one.
Sheesh. Am I boring or what? I don’t fall into any of these. Closest I probably come to one of his categories is my Ovation I bought in 74. That was because Glen Campbell played one.
Bought a G400 because I really liked the SG, just couldn’t afford a Gibson at the time. A really ugly kit Tele that I refinished. Then because I’m part Swede, the Hagstrom Viking. And finally the only “name” electric I own. My MIM Strat.
Didn’t buy any as collectibles…. And they aren’t. Play them all. The only one I’m seriously protective of and fussy with is the Ovation. It does have a cloth inside the case that I use to wipe down…. Just not every time I play it. The only time it leaves its latched hard shell case is when I’m playing it. It is 50 years old after all.
Bought a G400 because I really liked the SG, just couldn’t afford a Gibson at the time. A really ugly kit Tele that I refinished. Then because I’m part Swede, the Hagstrom Viking. And finally the only “name” electric I own. My MIM Strat.
Didn’t buy any as collectibles…. And they aren’t. Play them all. The only one I’m seriously protective of and fussy with is the Ovation. It does have a cloth inside the case that I use to wipe down…. Just not every time I play it. The only time it leaves its latched hard shell case is when I’m playing it. It is 50 years old after all.
LiveeviL2000
Ambassador of Pentagonal Pentatonics
I have bought just to have.
I have bought to flip for profit.
I have bought cheap, expensive (for my wallet) and everything in between.
And yes, I’ve come across guitars that I have even demo’ed here that “punch above their weight class.”
I just think he is talking in extremes and citing cliches to make his point.
If I fit in those “don’t be that guy” categories… ok I’m that guy
To be honest. I think we here are all players first. Then collectors.
Otherwise, I don’t think we’d be here on this forum.
As for not playing guitars and keeping them in the closet. I haven’t bought a guitar and not played it. That one seems weird to me. I guess strictly collectors?
I have bought to flip for profit.
I have bought cheap, expensive (for my wallet) and everything in between.
And yes, I’ve come across guitars that I have even demo’ed here that “punch above their weight class.”
I just think he is talking in extremes and citing cliches to make his point.
If I fit in those “don’t be that guy” categories… ok I’m that guy
To be honest. I think we here are all players first. Then collectors.
Otherwise, I don’t think we’d be here on this forum.
As for not playing guitars and keeping them in the closet. I haven’t bought a guitar and not played it. That one seems weird to me. I guess strictly collectors?
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
I agree with that , player first. The first Gibson I bought was a player grade 70's SG and prefer them that way. At the time I was 20 and never had more than one guitar until around 2013.I have bought just to have.
I have bought to flip for profit.
I have bought cheap, expensive (for my wallet) and everything in between.
And yes, I’ve come across guitars that I have even demo’ed here that “punch above their weight class.”
I just think he is talking in extremes and citing cliches to make his point.
If I fit in those “don’t be that guy” categories… ok I’m that guy
To be honest. I think we here are all players first. Then collectors.
Otherwise, I don’t think we’d be here on this forum.
As for not playing guitars and keeping them in the closet. I haven’t bought a guitar and not played it. That one seems weird to me. I guess strictly collectors?
I can't help my self , I do like bargins.
For example , I just bought a TB5.
It was less than $50.
With all the stupid pricing lately , I am hesitant. I do however have a collection of pickups I have yet to install.
I always watch pickups.
Really good deals , even though there are many high price pickups I would like to have.
I watched a set of T-tops actually, 1 was $400. I thought sounds like a good price I can not justify it.
Oh , and Facebook marketplace and Craigslist. Yes
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67plexi
Ambassador of Amps
I like good tools when I was turning wrenches for a living used Snap-On still do.
My job was high pressure so played in bands to put my mind on vacation
The bad I was playing my old guitars on stage and drunks tried to steel my guitars
I started playing new guitars so if they got ripped off I could replace them.
The 5 watt dork can think what he wants it doesn't matter to me.
My job was high pressure so played in bands to put my mind on vacation
The bad I was playing my old guitars on stage and drunks tried to steel my guitars
I started playing new guitars so if they got ripped off I could replace them.
The 5 watt dork can think what he wants it doesn't matter to me.
Amp Mad Scientist
Ambassador of Heresy
The guitars that you laugh at, hate the most...
will probably be worth half a million dollars - 50 years from now.
Remember this? Rejected in 1957; became one of the most sought-after guitars in history. A collector paid 1 million for the 1 single few surviving prototype examples.
will probably be worth half a million dollars - 50 years from now.Remember this? Rejected in 1957; became one of the most sought-after guitars in history. A collector paid 1 million for the 1 single few surviving prototype examples.
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BFT Gibson
Ambassador of Originality
way down these days
6 bass heads 10 bass cabs
3 guitar heads- 8 cabs
6 basses
3 guitars
1 ludwig kit
1 bottle Bookers & 2 bottles Knob creek
house seems empty lol
6 bass heads 10 bass cabs
3 guitar heads- 8 cabs
6 basses
3 guitars
1 ludwig kit
1 bottle Bookers & 2 bottles Knob creek
house seems empty lol
LiveeviL2000
Ambassador of Pentagonal Pentatonics
i don’t think so. I didn’t see any little boys anywhere.
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
Jethro Rocker
Ambassador of Live & Loud Action
It is possible there were no prototypes made. No one knows of any or where they are .Sort of reissue, yes but no prototype Modernes were probably ever built.
SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
I really enjoyed that! Keeping a guitar under a bed is a travesty. As is modifying a guitar before you've really spent any time with it, and really learned all of its idiosyncrasies. Many of the collectors described are the people who have kept certain old guitars out of the hands of players. Especially since the New York Times suggested old guitars were a better long term investment than stocks, so hedge fund brokers grabbed every used guitar from the fifties and sixties.
In my own journey, I have always bought used guitars. At the time, there was no real vintage definition or market. Just old guitars. My first couple of Gibsons were purchased after learning to be proficient enough to justify owning them, I would only buy guitars that fit a certain sound that could be used for live or studio work. If given options on two almost identical models, I would go for the least expensive unless it was a dog of a player. Then I would get the higher priced one, usually only if I could afford it. I don't like buying guitars or other toys with credit. That went on for many years, and did not really pay attention to how many I had.
Amps I had less of, and they were also the right tools I needed for the job at the time. Only in the past ten years did I start getting a larger collection of amps. Many of those were offered to me from friends or peers who felt I should own the amp, as it would have its "best" home with me. Then, I've built a few that were copies of amps that are beyond my reach and means.
I'm glad that I fall into the "accidental collector" stereotype, as I was never looking to have a "collection." I just wanted some good guitars that would be part of a sonic palette for painting soundscapes. They are all good players. When I was gigging and recording, I wanted to have options. There were always my two or three that were dedicated live guitars, and then others for the studio, or the couch.
As a friend (who used to share the rehearsal space next to mine) once said while visiting my house, "I know a lot of people with bigger collections than yours, and many of their guitars are dogs. They will never be good players. None of your guitars are like that. They are all excellent. How did you do it?" I did it because I was never out to buy many of my guitars. Most found me. Only a few were really intentional purchases, and I did well with those. Many of my guitars were offered to me as: "Hey John, would you be interested in my _____?" Or, "Do you know anyone interested in a _____?" If I didn't have something that sounded like it, it played well, and had the cash on hand, I would buy it.
To me they have always not only been tools, but also like tubes of paint in an artist's paint box. Many have their own personalities, sounds, and colors. It's up to me to extract that from them. I feel that now I have the right balance of guitars and amps that fit the sounds in my head. Some of the overly redundant ones might find their way into other hands soon. I haven't made up my mind yet.
In my own journey, I have always bought used guitars. At the time, there was no real vintage definition or market. Just old guitars. My first couple of Gibsons were purchased after learning to be proficient enough to justify owning them, I would only buy guitars that fit a certain sound that could be used for live or studio work. If given options on two almost identical models, I would go for the least expensive unless it was a dog of a player. Then I would get the higher priced one, usually only if I could afford it. I don't like buying guitars or other toys with credit. That went on for many years, and did not really pay attention to how many I had.
Amps I had less of, and they were also the right tools I needed for the job at the time. Only in the past ten years did I start getting a larger collection of amps. Many of those were offered to me from friends or peers who felt I should own the amp, as it would have its "best" home with me. Then, I've built a few that were copies of amps that are beyond my reach and means.
I'm glad that I fall into the "accidental collector" stereotype, as I was never looking to have a "collection." I just wanted some good guitars that would be part of a sonic palette for painting soundscapes. They are all good players. When I was gigging and recording, I wanted to have options. There were always my two or three that were dedicated live guitars, and then others for the studio, or the couch.
As a friend (who used to share the rehearsal space next to mine) once said while visiting my house, "I know a lot of people with bigger collections than yours, and many of their guitars are dogs. They will never be good players. None of your guitars are like that. They are all excellent. How did you do it?" I did it because I was never out to buy many of my guitars. Most found me. Only a few were really intentional purchases, and I did well with those. Many of my guitars were offered to me as: "Hey John, would you be interested in my _____?" Or, "Do you know anyone interested in a _____?" If I didn't have something that sounded like it, it played well, and had the cash on hand, I would buy it.
To me they have always not only been tools, but also like tubes of paint in an artist's paint box. Many have their own personalities, sounds, and colors. It's up to me to extract that from them. I feel that now I have the right balance of guitars and amps that fit the sounds in my head. Some of the overly redundant ones might find their way into other hands soon. I haven't made up my mind yet.
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67plexi
Ambassador of Amps
Guitars found me not premeditated all the ones I have were cherry picked
1980 I learned a important lesson was at a music store a guy sold a 1958 Les Paul Standard they let me play it
asked how much cash only deal, went to my grandfathers shop across town when I returned to the music store would not
sell it to me returned the cash to my grandfather 4 hours total drive time to think it over money talks and BS walks grandfather told me.
2001 November I was at a GC in downtown Seattle was the only customer in the store found a new Gibson custom shop Les Paul Class 5
same color as the 1958 LPS and it played well over 50% off this time had the cash played 10 custom shop Les Paul's that day
picked the best sounding one.
1980 I learned a important lesson was at a music store a guy sold a 1958 Les Paul Standard they let me play it
asked how much cash only deal, went to my grandfathers shop across town when I returned to the music store would not
sell it to me returned the cash to my grandfather 4 hours total drive time to think it over money talks and BS walks grandfather told me.
2001 November I was at a GC in downtown Seattle was the only customer in the store found a new Gibson custom shop Les Paul Class 5
same color as the 1958 LPS and it played well over 50% off this time had the cash played 10 custom shop Les Paul's that day
picked the best sounding one.
rolandson
Well-Known Member
I'm a player, not a collector. I worked for a living...
I like that there are collectors out there, without them my old strat would have been just another used guitar. I know a couple who fit this mold and I am grateful not to have had the burden of so many instruments to choose from. Just deciding which to use for one session or tour had to have been boarder line traumatic. And one fellow, a wonderful player, had a magnificent collection that fell victim to a burst water pipe...6120's don't like water very much.
Now that's traumatic!
I acquired, or assembled, what I had need of to satisfy the requirements of those who asked me to accompany them. And being a side guy...space in the instrument crates was a premium, I had to justify my use of what little I was allotted.
Flippers on the other hand ... ferengi is a fitting term. (I only know of one. He hasn't the slightest idea what to do with a guitar but can hammer out price points all day long) ... a pariah by any other name.
I like that there are collectors out there, without them my old strat would have been just another used guitar. I know a couple who fit this mold and I am grateful not to have had the burden of so many instruments to choose from. Just deciding which to use for one session or tour had to have been boarder line traumatic. And one fellow, a wonderful player, had a magnificent collection that fell victim to a burst water pipe...6120's don't like water very much.
Now that's traumatic!
I acquired, or assembled, what I had need of to satisfy the requirements of those who asked me to accompany them. And being a side guy...space in the instrument crates was a premium, I had to justify my use of what little I was allotted.
Flippers on the other hand ... ferengi is a fitting term. (I only know of one. He hasn't the slightest idea what to do with a guitar but can hammer out price points all day long) ... a pariah by any other name.