When did Gibby go to the circuit boards????
PCB In Gibsons:
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OP
Makes it tough to install DIY pickups....
Goldmember
Ambassador of Golden Yoo-Hoos
OMG, eSGe, my friend! Why? I have the 2013 (I think) 60s Tribute SG, too....What did you not dig?
eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
When I opened the factory sealed box.
the neck pup didnt work
the local Gibson certified repair guy opened the back plate and said --and i quote "I cant work on this I dont even have a way to diagnose anything on the boards".......call Gibson.
this then went on till I finally got them to send me a new pick up-----it was a reall P.I.A.
The guitar itself was fine. but the whole situation and the way it was handled complete with buck passing between the retailer and Gibson and time and gas wasted traveling to the repair guy.......just soured me.
I just traded the Guitar----for a VOX VIRAGE SC that I later sold---- wish I had kept the VOX
the neck pup didnt work
the local Gibson certified repair guy opened the back plate and said --and i quote "I cant work on this I dont even have a way to diagnose anything on the boards".......call Gibson.
this then went on till I finally got them to send me a new pick up-----it was a reall P.I.A.
The guitar itself was fine. but the whole situation and the way it was handled complete with buck passing between the retailer and Gibson and time and gas wasted traveling to the repair guy.......just soured me.
I just traded the Guitar----for a VOX VIRAGE SC that I later sold---- wish I had kept the VOX
OP
I opened up my 2016 T-Series SG and found a PCB...
OP
When I opened the factory sealed box.
the neck pup didnt work
the local Gibson certified repair guy opened the back plate and said --and i quote "I cant work on this I dont even have a way to diagnose anything on the boards".......call Gibson.
this then went on till I finally got them to send me a new pick up-----it was a reall P.I.A.
The guitar itself was fine. but the whole situation and the way it was handled complete with buck passing between the retailer and Gibson and time and gas wasted traveling to the repair guy.......just soured me.
I just traded the Guitar----for a VOX VIRAGE SC that I later sold---- wish I had kept the VOX
I have to agree....
Honestly, I really don't want anybody touching this SG....
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
I have not pulled any PCB's out yet. I will post info once I get experience removing one.
RVA
Ambassador
An old Sony trick. But as long as there are wire cutters, we will be ok. In the end, it is still just a magnet.unless they are GIBSON pickups with the matching clip
GOTTCHA--
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That absolutely blows my mind. There is fundamentally no difference between "diagnosing" a PCB-based system versus point-to-point wiring. The PCB traces just take the place of wires. Now, you do have to look at the board to see where the traces connect, but you still use your multimeter.
unless they are GIBSON pickups with the matching clip
GOTTCHA--
Gibson uses a standard Molex connector for the pickup leads. These are available online super cheap. Try www.onlinecomponents.com.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the correct part number for the five-pin pickup lead connector in Robert Herndon's pic is 538-43645-0500. Is some portion of a part number stamped onto the connector, itself?
Ideally, you'll also need the correct crimp tool. The connectors come with a set of sockets that crimp onto each wire. Then, those sockets are inserted into the plastic connector body. You could try to crimp the wires using a needle nose pliers, but that can be a little tricky.
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eSGEe
Ferengi Ambassador of Trade
You see I could have done that frankd, however that would NOT have been a GIBSON SANCTIONED REPAIR --- therefore I would have had to pay the guy ---- who ---honestly I didnt care for much in the first place--- so that was out---
I eneded up having Gibson send me a new pup--- that plufgged up and worked fine--- I traded the guitar --- I kept the "bad" put and clippd the STUPID little white clip off --- sold the pup--- I believe to somebody at "the nameless forum" ---was it you Goo??? Somebody got the Gibbo pup any way -----
I liked the guitar still do--- love the color --- wish I still had her at times---- but after 2 decades waiting to get another SG ---- then it comes in broken---- I was PISSED and wanted nothing to do with the bad JuJu floating around in the lovely chocolate wood of her.
The young lad who traded the VOX is a gig Musician in Tn. ---or Ky. I forget --- he reported great success with her and even recorded some stuff with her--- so she is happy and now long term I am as well. but the whole situation left a bitter "G" taste in the mouth.
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
VOX,,,,,,,,,,, Adrian, what speaker was in that Vox?
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Adrian, Duh, I read that and understood "guitar" but my early morning tired brain typed a speaker question. Dohhhh.
B
Biddlin
Guest
After everyone else.
60 years ago.
You know facts only confuse and upset them.....
Yup.
Tony M.
Ambassador
Gibson.
At this point.
QC is too low.
Prices are too high.
Service is next to awful.
The last 3 guitars I bought were a
Music Man and 2 Paul Reed Smiths.
I was with Gibson for 53 years but am no
longer willing to put up with their bulls#it.
I will keep the ones I have but I have moved on.
At this point.
QC is too low.
Prices are too high.
Service is next to awful.
The last 3 guitars I bought were a
Music Man and 2 Paul Reed Smiths.
I was with Gibson for 53 years but am no
longer willing to put up with their bulls#it.
I will keep the ones I have but I have moved on.
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
I guess experiences vary, but of the 3 Gibsons I bought in 2016 (and 6 since 2013) I couldn't disagree more:
The quality has been uniformly perfect out of the box.
Compared to other top-quality guitars I feel the prices are actually very reasonable (out of curiosity I ran an inflation calculator on some of the guitars I have bought in the past, starting with a 1977 Les Paul - this only reinforced my impression that the prices are good)
The one time I dealt with CS in the past 3 years they bent over backward to assist, and did it in a timely manner.
I don't think I am special. I think Gibson-bashing has become trendy...not saying you are doing that but because you are speaking from your own experience, I just don't see the issues that a lot of people claim are rampant with the brand and I don't want those who are thinking of buying one to be swayed by all the negativity on the internet. They are still some of the best guitars on the planet. Sure, the occasional problem will come up but they are certainly the exceptions and not the rule.