NO GIBSON?

I think Gibson is getting outdated by other guitar companies that offer more quality & variety at a lower price. Gibson is resting on their laurels of the past and are starting to become stagnate. They need new energy...get Henry J to retire once and for all!


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Perhaps this new energy is moving toward something beneficial for the whole world, such as Preparation H, which goes ahead as planned!

 
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Stay or go Gibson has had a pretty long history in the business. Not to mention a fairly large impact and influence in the guitar/music world...
 
eSGEe said:
sounds like they have NEW energy and its moving AWAY from just guitars
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Yeah. Henry J. has been trying to expand the Gibson brand as a player in the electronics world for some time. He wouldn't be the first to do it, though. Yamaha started as a piano and reed organ builder in 1887. But, as we all know, Yamaha's portfolio today includes not just a wide variety of musical instruments, but audio-visual gear, professional and consumer electronic devices, semi-conductors, motorcycles, appliances, and even golf carts.

I suspect Henry J. is trying something similar with Gibson. I don't necessarily think he's wanting to eliminate guitars, but I think he wants to do something more than (as it was appropriately phrased in the quote above) "just guitars."

I personally am not too concerned about their lack of attendance at NAMM. From time to time, I get to attend one of the major trade shows in the professional AV industry. It would seem that just about every company would want to be there. However, a few years back one of the largest manufacturers in the industry decided not to attend, anymore. A lot of us started to think this company was having issues and we were getting concerned about that company's direction. Well, our fears were pretty much unnecessary as that company has continued to innovate and expand it's product line and footprint in the industry. So, Gibson's decision may not really be a harbinger of doom for the company. (BTW, "Harbinger of Doom" would be a good name for a djent album!)

Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm not immediately panicked about it.
 
Shhhhhh Smitty I am trying to DRIVE USED GIBSON PRICES through the roof.....your logical and sensible comment is not helping :)
 
eSGEe said:
Shhhhhh Smitty I am trying to DRIVE USED GIBSON PRICES through the roof.....your logical and sensible comment is not helping :)
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Oops...my bad.

How's this....

"Gibson's not attending NAMM!?!?!?!?! They're going down, man....going DOWN! This is the beginning of the end, man. This is a harbinger of DOOM for that company!!!! You better get whatever you can now, man...'cuz in a few years there won't be any more Gibsons made, dude!!!!"

Is that better?
 
you forgot---- and this moves PEAVEY USA GEAR into MUCH HIGHER REGARD AND VALUE !!!!!

(Geesh man I am sitting on a pile of Peavey stuff I need to drive prices UP!!!) ;)

Your assistance is appreciated --lunch is on me when next you visit the Swamp :)
 
I see no need for concern. Gibson quality right now is as good as its ever been (despite the naysayers and bashers) and they are a known quantity. What need do they have to go to NAMM and show everyone that they do, indeed, still sell Les Pauls and SG's? Maybe they have realized that with the shift in the way we all buy music products their marketing budget is better spent connecting directly with consumers, not the distribution network, which is all NAMM is anyway - a damn trade show.
 
gball said:
I see no need for concern. Gibson quality right now is as good as its ever been (despite the naysayers and bashers) and they are a known quantity. What need do they have to go to NAMM and show everyone that they do, indeed, still sell Les Pauls and SG's? Maybe they have realized that with the shift in the way we all buy music products their marketing budget is better spent connecting directly with consumers, not the distribution network, which is all NAMM is anyway - a damn trade show.
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Just to clarify, the Consumer Electronics Show is just as much of a trade show, if not moreso, than NAMM. CES is focused on marketing of consumer (as opposed to commercial) electronic devices. For example, you may have heard of some of Gibson's subsidiaries - Philips, Onkyo, GoGear, and some others. These comprise Gibson Innovations, which is the consumer audio division of Gibson Brands. The Gibson musical instrument production is just another part of Gibson Brands.

This move by Gibson seems to be just an attempt to push harder on their electronics business units. But, it is just as likely to be focused on distribution and marketing as anything they did at NAMM.
 
smitty_p said:
Just to clarify, the Consumer Electronics Show is just as much of a trade show, if not moreso, than NAMM. CES is focused on marketing of consumer (as opposed to commercial) electronic devices. For example, you may have heard of some of Gibson's subsidiaries - Philips, Onkyo, GoGear, and some others. These comprise Gibson Innovations, which is the consumer audio division of Gibson Brands. The Gibson musical instrument production is just another part of Gibson Brands.

This move by Gibson seems to be just an attempt to push harder on their electronics business units. But, it is just as likely to be focused on distribution and marketing as anything they did at NAMM.
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I was referring only to the sale of guitars, as I think the way we consume them has changed so much. I don't have much (any) interest in consumer electronics. I have a 30-year old stereo, only have one TV that only gets replaced when it fails, don't do gadgets, barely use a cell phone and never upgrade it. The only reason I even have a computer at my disposal is my job gives me one, wouldn't own one otherwise.
 
gball said:
I was referring only to the sale of guitars, as I think the way we consume them has changed so much. I don't have much (any) interest in consumer electronics. I have a 30-year old stereo, only have one TV that only gets replaced when it fails, don't do gadgets, barely use a cell phone and never upgrade it. The only reason I even have a computer at my disposal is my job gives me one, wouldn't own one otherwise.
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Ahh...gotcha.
 
eSGEe said:
sounds like they have NEW energy and its moving AWAY from just guitars
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Maybe Gibson should get into building mopeds so they can make huge profits in repairs just like with their guitars.:wink:

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BlackSG91 said:
I think Gibson is getting outdated by other guitar companies that offer more quality & variety at a lower price. Gibson is resting on their laurels of the past and are starting to become stagnate. They need new energy...get Henry J to retire once and for all!


;>)/
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I would really like to see Gibson get it together, Man...Seriously....I would have bought a Gibson EDS-1275 had it not been for fear of having to rebuild it....
 
gball said:
I was referring only to the sale of guitars, as I think the way we consume them has changed so much. I don't have much (any) interest in consumer electronics. I have a 30-year old stereo, only have one TV that only gets replaced when it fails, don't do gadgets, barely use a cell phone and never upgrade it. The only reason I even have a computer at my disposal is my job gives me one, wouldn't own one otherwise.
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I'm a renaissance man as well, G-Ball. I do not watch TV and I have only 5 CD's in my car. I only drive manual transmission cars. I aspire not to have a boat, jet skis, a BMW or a Hardley-Able-Son. When people ask me what "frivolous" purchases I would make as a millionaire - I only have one - a P-38 Lockheed Lightning - I admired them as a kid, but after getting to fly one in 2009, I am forever hooked on owning one.

On my short list is a home on Fair Isle Scotland.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I would really like to see Gibson get it together, Man...Seriously....
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The last few Gibson guitars I have bought have been among the best I have ever owned. The glory days of guitar (for all makers) may be over but I still can't figure out what it is exactly that everyone keeps lamenting about Gibson. The lineup is sound, the guitars are beautifully built, and they sound and play great. I know the internet loves to assail us with all of the anecdotal "problems" but as a lifelong Gibson player I have nothing to complain about at the moment. What is it that everyone sees about the current lineup that makes them feel the company in imminent peril? They've always been expensive, so it's not just that. Same as anything in life, don't buy it if you don't see value in it, but for those of us that do it's tough to see what it is that they are doing that is so wrong.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I have only 5 CD's in my car.
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One thing I do spend money on is music. I buy, on average, 5-6 albums a week. I have a removable media in the car that allows me to have hundreds of albums in there at any one time so there is always something to suit my mood. I listen to music, on average, 8-10 hours a day - the entire time I am in my office, so it gives me plenty of time to explore new music and hear things I haven't heard before.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I would really like to see Gibson get it together, Man...Seriously....I would have bought a Gibson EDS-1275 had it not been for fear of having to rebuild it....
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I bet your double-neck is better quality than an actual Gibson EDS-1275 and all hand-built by the man himself. Having volutes on your necks really helps and minimizes neck breakage which Gibson is famous for. It happened to my Gibson SG which costed about $200 to fix. The guy did a good job and re-enforced it with fibre glass for extra strength. Gibson should go back to having volutes on their necks. I know Gibson has a 17 degree neck angle compared to Epiphone's 14 degree angle which seems to have less issues with neck breakage. Maybe Gibson should follow Epiphone's lead and their guitars would be more stable. Custom guitar builders are giving Gibson a run for their money. That seems to be the trend these days.


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