Can you hear the "hollow" in an electric guitar?

eSGEe said:
I can SMELL the difference in a Hollow or acoustic over a solid for SURE--- no doubt hands down
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smitty_p said:
It doesn't take hours, at all. I've changed the pots in my semi-hollow Washburn in about 30 minutes, or less (not including the time to solder the components together outside the guitar). Build your harness outside the guitar. Then, run aquarium tubing from the holes for the pots, switch, and jack through the F-holes. Push the tubing onto the pot shafts, the switch (remove the switch tip), and into the jack. You may have to tape it onto the jack, as well. Then, gently pull the parts into position. It's not that tough, at all. You just have to be careful as you work the harness through the f-holes into the cavity.

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Also, my "warmer"/"colder" comments aren't referring to your premise. Your expectation of the outcome may be correct. You were careful to use the term "audible" which is a good way to phrase it, because a real test may show there is a difference, though not audible to us...or it may show other things which I've already mentioned.

But come to think of it....conceivably, you can run your own listening test if that's the way you want to go. You have some Les Paul-style Agiles, correct? Anyway, take all those components out and install them in an ES-335-type guitar, and see for yourself.
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Good tips!
 
gball said:
Answering the initial question, yes I can hear the "hollowness" in a semi- or full-hollow. The attack is different and there is a little bit of a midrange attenuation vs a solidbody. You hear these subtle things when you play them and you end up playing them differently because of it.

I know the tonewood argument is ongoing. I fall squarely into the camp that believes that wood type and construction do make a difference. One thing I am absolutely sure of is that a Les Paul with a maple neck plays, sounds, responds very differently from one with a hog neck and no matter how you switch the electronics around they are going to retain their individual character. With a semi the difference is even more pronounced. How does the wood effect the tone? Don't know, don't care, but I can hear it and feel it so that means I can use it to make the noises I want to make.
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"Hog Neck?"
 
RVA said:
Sadly for me, I think I am right on. This started with a desire to justify an ES335 guitar and the hours it would take to fish the pots out through the F-Hole for a mod. Unfortunately, I think that my premise stands intact - there is no audible difference, so why bother. Then again, that has never stopped me before!
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RVA said:
I sort of have done this. I picked up my beloved CS336 and wanted to hear the soft whisper of the blues, but all I heard was '57 classics! They are not my favorite pups, but I want to keep this one stock because it was a gift from my parents.

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That is a stunning guitar!
Most definitely a keeper.
but...
it is a different animal
from an ES 335/345/355.

You don't have an ES 335/345/355?
Go buy one.
Today.
Right now.
You can thank me later.

Don't like classic 57s?
Turn the dials on your amplifier.
or...
Buy a Supro Thunderbolt.
It will sound magnificent with your new ES 335/345/355.

:)
 
Tony M. said:
That is a stunning guitar!
Most definitely a keeper.
but...
it is a different animal
from an ES 335/345/355.

You don't have an ES 335/345/355?
Go buy one.
Today.
Right now.
You can thank me later.

Don't like classic 57s?
Turn the dials on your amplifier.
or...
Buy a Supro Thunderbolt.
It will sound magnificent with your new ES 335/345/355.

:)
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Hey there Tony Manhattan...you don't like '57 Classics...no? Our good friend Colonel Dijon Mustard swears by them and thinks they are the best pickups ever. But what puzzles me is that he uses an EQ pedal. If the pickups sound so good why would you need an EQ pedal? You're right...just turn the dials on your amplifier. That's what they are there for.;)


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I thought my newly acquired Douglas Gravity semi-hollowbody tele would sound different than my other Teles because of the hollow chamber, but it does not. It has its own voice but sounds very similar to my SX Furrian. I bet they are made at the same factory.
 
I can hear the difference when you change the pickups. They are electric guitars and what comes out of the amp is what the process is all about. You can hear the rattle of a Stratocaster tremolo springs you are not playing attention to the music. Most of the weird annoying sounds I miss.
Your hearing is too good.
 
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Anyone read the Indian Book of Change? It speaks to everything happens for a reason. I read it year back and it influenced my life more than I thought. Really there is no such thing as chance and luck. I'm going to burn some incense now. Reason is my farts are bad from cabbage.
 
Tony M. said:
That is a stunning guitar!
Most definitely a keeper.
but...
it is a different animal
from an ES 335/345/355.

You don't have an ES 335/345/355?
Go buy one.
Today.
Right now.
You can thank me later.

Don't like classic 57s?
Turn the dials on your amplifier.
or...
Buy a Supro Thunderbolt.
It will sound magnificent with your new ES 335/345/355.

:)
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Bid is in a an Epi Dot. Blame/Credit goes to Tony for this one. The headstock is marked "USED", but that is fine by me. It has one of the nicest, simple, natural grains I have ever seen
 
I have had semi hollow and full hollow body guitars. My Casino is full hollow body and to play unplugged and expect music, well you will be disappointed. That is way I put better P90s on it and up graded the sorry stock pick ups on my Jay Turner 335. We call it the happy Red Guitar. Those were the Guitar of the Yesr in 2004. I played a bunch of semi hollow body guitars in this price range.
The JT 113k beat them all by miles.
 
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