Volume Pedal

smitty_p said:
By the way, Robert, be careful of what some makers call an "active" pedal. Properly speaking, an active pedal means it is powered. However, Ernie Ball plays fast and loose with the terminology. They have a pedal that they call an "active" pedal, but it isn't. It simply has a 25 k ohm pot instead of a 250 k ohm pot. But the pedal, itself, is still passive. I also have the 25 k ohm Ernie Ball pedal, but I use it for an expression pedal with my Line 6 X3 Live. In this situation it is used in an active, control circuit. It doesn't actually have the audio signal passing through it. For this purpose, it works very nicely.

But, you need to look at the specs of the pedal. Even a powered pedal can have poor specs. Two of the key things to look at are the input and output impedances of the pedal.
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Thanks! No wonder I never used one before!!!
 
Hopefully it works well. In the worst-case scenario an insert cable can be used to convert it into an expression pedal, something that is not possible with active volume pedals.

 
smitty_p said:
Hmmm....that's still a passive pedal. It will work, but I'll be curious to hear your report on it, especially if you think it has an effect on your tone, at all.
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I agree. It was an impulse purchase and I need it for rehearsal tonight.

I also followed recommendations here to by the low impedance "L" version for dedicated use through the effects loop.

I always run 40 to 50 feet of cable for its positive effect on my tone...
 
I hate to think how much cable I am running. Three 20 ft cables, one 15 ft cable and all of that cable on my boards. Must be around 90 feet of cable.

This is a big part of why I don't have the 'true bypass' fetish.
 
Dave Sloven said:
I hate to think how much cable I am running. Three 20 ft cables, one 15 ft cable and all of that cable on my boards. Must be around 90 feet of cable.

This is a big part of why I don't have the 'true bypass' fetish.
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Good point....now, I need to run cables out of the back of the Marshall (effects loop) out to my microphone stand area (that's a pair of 20 footers right there) then a 20 footer from the front of the amp to my Korg stage tuner and noise gate and a 10 footer from the tuner into the guitar...then (2) 20 footers from the twin-input Doubleneck to the second VS265 amp!!!!
 
Dave Sloven said:
Glad to hear it's working out for you!
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Thank you for your advice. The low impedance pedal in the loop was the ticket. Very responsive pedal. Very even thresholds. I can totally shut the amp down with it....but I never lose my gain!

It also gives me an option to run two amps from one pedal.
 
I have my noise suppressor in the loop. I place it before the volume pedal but you could have it after if you wish. I definitely place it after the EQ. So my loop is EQ->suppressor->flanger->volume->chorus. The only reason it is placed between the flanger and the chorus is that they are on different boards. Anywhere before the delay would be okay.
 
Dave Sloven said:
I have my noise suppressor in the loop. I place it before the volume pedal but you could have it after if you wish. I definitely place it after the EQ. So my loop is EQ->suppressor->flanger->volume->chorus. The only reason it is placed between the flanger and the chorus is that they are on different boards. Anywhere before the delay would be okay.
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ok, so before the delay will keep tails from being cut off???
 
Yeah definitely the volume before the delay, that way the delay will reproduce the swell effect.

Noise suppressors should always go before any time-based effect. In my experience time-based effects are not noisy anyway. The only way they become noisy is through problems with power supplies, generally daisy chaining.

The inherently noisy stuff is gain and compression, so you want your noise suppressor after all of that.
 
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