Las Vegas Massacre
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I have 6 grandkids and they all go poop!Regular programing at your place Grant
DonP
Guest
Fair enough, but please remember that this is an international forum, not just a US one.
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Content edited due to political statement.
I believe that I have made this point perfectly clear.
Col Mustard
Ambassador of Perseverance
Some of us come here to get away from all of the political hoopla-oink.
It's not like we're going to solve anything by flame broiling each other.
I have strong political views, but tend not to throw them at people who didn't
ask for a bath. Everywhere I turn, it's all politics, all the time.
I got so sick of it during 2016 that I couldn't wait for everyone to shut up and vote.
Just STF up and vote already. For me, one of the horrors of the Las Vegas massacre was
seeing the performers do their Olympic Sprinting routine. No one, except a soldier who has
actually seen combat, knows how they would behave when shots start going off.
You've got a microphone dude, should you stand there and tell the audience to be calm, and
get down on the ground and crawl to safety... should you try to exersize leadership in a crisis...
or should you crouch between a couple of Marshall stacks and try not to look like you kiss your own ass goodbye? Or should you just boogie, like they did. I confess, I don't know the answer.
Last year, we were onstage at a 'Roots Music Festival' on an Island in the St. Clair River.
It was a lovely summer day. Shots went off, behind the stage, off to my left... distance maybe
1000 meters or less. What do you do, mufu... The audience did NOT panic. We did NOT panic
and dive under the stage (which was a farmer's flatbed hay wagon). I kept my place in the music
and thought it through. Am I a fool to stand here exposed? Are people looking at me, hoping for
leadership? The shots were close enough to be loud and startling, but they were in pairs.
BANG BANG... pause... then another pair. I don't think they're aimed at us, they sound different
when they are. Oh, there's probably a gun club on the river shore. Rich guys with fancy shotguns,
shooting at clay targets maybe. A shotgun has a definite BOOM to it, different from a military rifle
and also different from a scope sighted long range hunting rifle, which also can have a very deep boom to it along with a supersonic crack in the high frequencies. I didn't think the audience had been to enough shooting ranges to know any of this. So I didn't flinch, (yes I did) ...But all those thoughts raced through my head in the space of a couple of measures of music.
We all acted like it was nothing. We kept playing and finished our set. In between songs I did
mention to the audience that I thought the shots were coming from a gun club, and were not
aimed at us. During our forty five minute set, there were probably twenty rounds fired, at
intervals that didn't make sense to me.
I absolutely hated that, let me tell you. I love to shoot
paper targets or clay pigeons and hunt deer, but I also really hate being onstage in the public eye, totally exposed and hear shots as close as 1000 meters. Some people might piss themselves... soldiers will admit that this happens when rounds come too close.
Anyway, why am I telling you all this? I don't know, it's on my mind. I hated our last campaign,
and "election" because of how vicious it has made our country. And on a nice Saturday afternoon,
when some of us are onstage and some of us are in the beer tent, and shots begin going off
as close as 1000 meters or less, we are all equally vulnerable. (some of us are more so, being exposed
and up there arse out to the wind, visible...). If we have children or loved ones in the audience,
them too. I dislike talking politics, and so I'll let you all make your own conclusions. Our society
is pretty f*cked up when the term "active shooter' is common among us... So I come to a guitar
forum for relief from the constant arguing over it.
This place gives me a break. Maybe it's dreaming to ignore an 'active shooter" and visit
a guitar forum to think and write about music and instruments of music, but I like it.
Thanks for all the good work, mods... and to our founder.
It's not like we're going to solve anything by flame broiling each other.
I have strong political views, but tend not to throw them at people who didn't
ask for a bath. Everywhere I turn, it's all politics, all the time.
I got so sick of it during 2016 that I couldn't wait for everyone to shut up and vote.
Just STF up and vote already. For me, one of the horrors of the Las Vegas massacre was
seeing the performers do their Olympic Sprinting routine. No one, except a soldier who has
actually seen combat, knows how they would behave when shots start going off.
You've got a microphone dude, should you stand there and tell the audience to be calm, and
get down on the ground and crawl to safety... should you try to exersize leadership in a crisis...
or should you crouch between a couple of Marshall stacks and try not to look like you kiss your own ass goodbye? Or should you just boogie, like they did. I confess, I don't know the answer.
Last year, we were onstage at a 'Roots Music Festival' on an Island in the St. Clair River.
It was a lovely summer day. Shots went off, behind the stage, off to my left... distance maybe
1000 meters or less. What do you do, mufu... The audience did NOT panic. We did NOT panic
and dive under the stage (which was a farmer's flatbed hay wagon). I kept my place in the music
and thought it through. Am I a fool to stand here exposed? Are people looking at me, hoping for
leadership? The shots were close enough to be loud and startling, but they were in pairs.
BANG BANG... pause... then another pair. I don't think they're aimed at us, they sound different
when they are. Oh, there's probably a gun club on the river shore. Rich guys with fancy shotguns,
shooting at clay targets maybe. A shotgun has a definite BOOM to it, different from a military rifle
and also different from a scope sighted long range hunting rifle, which also can have a very deep boom to it along with a supersonic crack in the high frequencies. I didn't think the audience had been to enough shooting ranges to know any of this. So I didn't flinch, (yes I did) ...But all those thoughts raced through my head in the space of a couple of measures of music.
We all acted like it was nothing. We kept playing and finished our set. In between songs I did
mention to the audience that I thought the shots were coming from a gun club, and were not
aimed at us. During our forty five minute set, there were probably twenty rounds fired, at
intervals that didn't make sense to me.
I absolutely hated that, let me tell you. I love to shoot
paper targets or clay pigeons and hunt deer, but I also really hate being onstage in the public eye, totally exposed and hear shots as close as 1000 meters. Some people might piss themselves... soldiers will admit that this happens when rounds come too close.
Anyway, why am I telling you all this? I don't know, it's on my mind. I hated our last campaign,
and "election" because of how vicious it has made our country. And on a nice Saturday afternoon,
when some of us are onstage and some of us are in the beer tent, and shots begin going off
as close as 1000 meters or less, we are all equally vulnerable. (some of us are more so, being exposed
and up there arse out to the wind, visible...). If we have children or loved ones in the audience,
them too. I dislike talking politics, and so I'll let you all make your own conclusions. Our society
is pretty f*cked up when the term "active shooter' is common among us... So I come to a guitar
forum for relief from the constant arguing over it.
This place gives me a break. Maybe it's dreaming to ignore an 'active shooter" and visit
a guitar forum to think and write about music and instruments of music, but I like it.
Thanks for all the good work, mods... and to our founder.
Tony M.
Ambassador
The performers had it in their power to lessen the panic,
possibly even save a few lives. They should have. They didn't.
I would have (how I know this is not important).
The audience at a concert are literally followers of the performers.
These "leaders" abandoned them in a severe crises.
Shame on them.
possibly even save a few lives. They should have. They didn't.
I would have (how I know this is not important).
The audience at a concert are literally followers of the performers.
These "leaders" abandoned them in a severe crises.
Shame on them.
syscokid
Ambassador of War & Peace
I don't like the notion of blaming the performers for the casualty results. The performers (Jason Aldean) didn't exactly know what was happening. Maybe they and their crew thought the shots were being aimed at them. Absolute chaos! Only those in attendance who actually have experienced machine gun fire and the sounds of ricochets would know what they are dealing with.