BlackSG91
Ambassador of Anarchy
The Miracle Of 432Hz
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Relic
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Hot peppers can farted at 432 Hz there Barry Bo Jangles!
;>)/
Not to mention the sympathetic harmonic sub-frequencies involved in the whole 'Butt-Bugle' note generating process.
FYI, Naturally aspirated Butt-Bugles are naturally tuned to the Key of "A" but sometimes older ones through the aging process are found to blow a wee bit closer to A flat!
Baw Haw HaHaw
Hey, what note does this smell like??
It might be a jazz chord, not sure.
BlackSG91
Ambassador of Anarchy
They must be stinker horns Barry Bo Jangles. Imagine the oxidation they must produce. Just a bit of toilet paper and some Brasso and you are good to go!
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Relic
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You don't use Brasso on these horns Brah. Due to the prolonged sphincter contact it highly recommended that you only use 'Asso'. (and do not store them with regular horns to prevent potential mix up & ex post facto a$$ to mouth contact. yuk!)
BlackSG91
Ambassador of Anarchy
You are still a sick puppy Barry Bo Jangles! You mind is in the gutter still with not your brass horns...buts your ass horns!!! Get it?
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Seamus OReally
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What studies? What “vibratory nature?” What “natural resonance?” This sentence contains so much supposition and magical thinking that it’s blowing my mind.
Seamus OReally
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Ancient doesn’t mean correct. Primitive people also believed in river gods, hexes, and fairies.
Sargeant Preston
Ambassador of The Ninth Chord
bea
AmBASSador of the F Clef
Playing Rock music at a lower pitch like 432 Hz means playing it in lower pitch than originally composed. Which means that will change the character of the music. Very audibly. Darker.
For example "Long Train Running" in that tuning will sound almost like a funeral march.
I tried during a band workshop ;-)
REALLY impressive ... and we were pretty fast in tuning our instruments up again.
So: what might help bring classical or baroque music back its original sound will massively change the character of modern music in a possibly unwanted direction.
Which definively means that the effect of downtuning is usually pretty significant, just possibly exactly what You would not want.
My guess is that 432 Hz tuning might be well suitable for (rock) music sounding "dark" anyway, E.g. Metal, maybe also Black Sabbath, maybe even Procol Harum or The Doors. But only then.
For example "Long Train Running" in that tuning will sound almost like a funeral march.
I tried during a band workshop ;-)
REALLY impressive ... and we were pretty fast in tuning our instruments up again.
So: what might help bring classical or baroque music back its original sound will massively change the character of modern music in a possibly unwanted direction.
Which definively means that the effect of downtuning is usually pretty significant, just possibly exactly what You would not want.
My guess is that 432 Hz tuning might be well suitable for (rock) music sounding "dark" anyway, E.g. Metal, maybe also Black Sabbath, maybe even Procol Harum or The Doors. But only then.
So...umm...would it spoil the fun to find out that Tom Danley never claims to have measured 432 Hz or 528 Hz in the King's Chamber?
Tom Danley, himself, details what he did in ProSound Web, linked below.
He measured lots of different standing waves and various other resonant frequencies. But, alas, our "Forbidden" frequency of 432 Hz just ain't there. He did roughly estimate the resonant frequency of the granite beams in the King's Chamber to be 300 Hz. So, that’s something, right? Right?
He even mentions (on page 2) that the wind pressure across the pyramid's internal air passages was like blowing across a Coke bottle. Now, that is cool. Maybe, we can start an internet rumor that it was really the ancient Egyptians who invented Coca-Cola!
Any the who, it seems the very premise of the video is kinda, sorta, well...I'll let y'all fill in the blank! (hint: it rhymes with "spit")
It seems the "intelligence" used in the video is artificial in more ways than one.
www.prosoundweb.com
Tom Danley, himself, details what he did in ProSound Web, linked below.
He measured lots of different standing waves and various other resonant frequencies. But, alas, our "Forbidden" frequency of 432 Hz just ain't there. He did roughly estimate the resonant frequency of the granite beams in the King's Chamber to be 300 Hz. So, that’s something, right? Right?
He even mentions (on page 2) that the wind pressure across the pyramid's internal air passages was like blowing across a Coke bottle. Now, that is cool. Maybe, we can start an internet rumor that it was really the ancient Egyptians who invented Coca-Cola!
Any the who, it seems the very premise of the video is kinda, sorta, well...I'll let y'all fill in the blank! (hint: it rhymes with "spit")
It seems the "intelligence" used in the video is artificial in more ways than one.
The Great Pyramid: Early Reflections & Ancient Echoes - ProSoundWeb
A saga of test tones, Indiana Jones, the lost knowledge of yore, a fascinating journey and much more...
www.prosoundweb.com
Sargeant Preston
Ambassador of The Ninth Chord
C'mon man. Everyone knows that ancient Egyptians invented beer. It's true. I seen it on the History Channel.
OP
Thank you SmittySo...umm...would it spoil the fun to find out that Tom Danley never claims to have measured 432 Hz or 528 Hz in the King's Chamber?
Tom Danley, himself, details what he did in ProSound Web, linked below.
He measured lots of different standing waves and various other resonant frequencies. But, alas, our "Forbidden" frequency of 432 Hz just ain't there. He did roughly estimate the resonant frequency of the granite beams in the King's Chamber to be 300 Hz. So, that’s something, right? Right?
He even mentions (on page 2) that the wind pressure across the pyramid's internal air passages was like blowing across a Coke bottle. Now, that is cool. Maybe, we can start an internet rumor that it was really the ancient Egyptians who invented Coca-Cola!
Any the who, it seems the very premise of the video is kinda, sorta, well...I'll let y'all fill in the blank! (hint: it rhymes with "spit")
It seems the "intelligence" used in the video is artificial in more ways than one.
The Great Pyramid: Early Reflections & Ancient Echoes - ProSoundWeb
A saga of test tones, Indiana Jones, the lost knowledge of yore, a fascinating journey and much more...
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eclecticsynergy
Ambassador of Electric Synergy
I had a band back in the 90s that tuned to 432 Hz.
Can't speak to sacred math or geometry, but it does have a different feel and it worked for us.
I went back to standard tuning when the band ended.
Not because I actually liked 440Hz better, but because it's inconvenient being slightly out of tune with the rest of the musical world.
Can't speak to sacred math or geometry, but it does have a different feel and it worked for us.
I went back to standard tuning when the band ended.
Not because I actually liked 440Hz better, but because it's inconvenient being slightly out of tune with the rest of the musical world.
Seamus OReally
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Exactly. I have to play in tune with sampled pianos, horns, strings… it’s all 440=A. I suppose I could microtune my synths and samples, but that would be a mammoth PITA.
PelliX
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Exactly. The 432Hz frequency is also associated with the so-called solfeggio scale, yet doesn't appear in it. Then there are the countless references to the Schumann resonances, again - no 432Hz there either. But it "sounds like it could be kinda related somehow", so there are tons of Youtube videos and stuff that try to draw parallels.
As Bea pointed out there's a low eigenmode frequency as anticipated, nothing unexpected there.
String tension is reduced in applicable instruments which alters the voicing a little, etc. You're right though; the fundamental flaw of trying to apply these notions to music is that playing a A tuned to 432Hz or 440Hz will yield a peak encompassing *both* frequencies strongly due to the Q of the note, so to speak.
Well... today we have fairly clean pitch alteration capabilities without tempo changes so one could record a harmonica (or other untunable instrument) and adjust it post-rec to match the rest of the piece. Anything sampled should be easy to do. I've actually detuned a synth with a piano patch to play along to some stuff (Beatles, for example). They recorded at concert pitch, I'm sure, but the tape was sped up or slowed down. An example of an actually detuned piano would be Coldplay's The Scientist, which sits at - IIRC - 441.3Hz.