NGD!! ...finally got my P90 LP!

Those look cool, looking at the specs. Thanks! Yeah, I think I'm worrying too much about the DCR on neck pickups thinking I need to keep it low, but I don't know why except I'm comparing them to what I prefer in humbuckers.

I have one more neck P90 that I haven't tried yet for that reason, I have a SD Hot P90 neck pickup that I bought as a set with the bridge Hot P90. That's the Mike Ness (Social Distortion) set. I think I should try that one too while I'm at it. I liked the bridge pickup with A2 Magnet swap, but (again) I don't even remember what the neck pickup was like. I didn't care about the neck pickup back then.
 
DirtySteve said:
I don't know why except I'm comparing them to what I prefer in humbuckers.
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We gravitate to numbers to justify our actions sometimes.
Part of my point was…even though my neck p’up specs much lower than the bridge, I still had to drop it to achieve the balance that I desired. Yet Duncan mates their bridge p’up with a higher DCR…12…weird.

Also…You keep mentioning “neck P90”. Is there really such a thing? The original Gibson P90s that I pulled from that guitar were something like 8.4 to 8.6…they were not any different from one another, really. I mean, yeah…in the sense of “RWRP” there would be a difference, but the Gibson p’ups were not RWRP. They were just two Gibson P90s. Pole spacing matched up etc…I couldn’t tell one from the other etc.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
We gravitate to numbers to justify our actions sometimes.
Part of my point was…even though my neck p’up specs much lower than the bridge, I still had to drop it to achieve the balance that I desired. Yet Duncan mates their bridge p’up with a higher DCR…12…weird.

Also…You keep mentioning “neck P90”. Is there really such a thing? The original Gibson P90s that I pulled from that guitar were something like 8.4 to 8.6…they were not any different from one another, really. I mean, yeah…in the sense of “RWRP” there would be a difference, but the Gibson p’ups were not RWRP. They were just two Gibson P90s. Pole spacing matched up etc…I couldn’t tell one from the other etc.
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I measured the resistance on both of the stock Gibson P90s that came in the guitar and they are 8.12 and 8.15, not enough to make a difference. I'm not convinced RWRP is even a thing to worry about, as soon as you roll the volume down even a little on either pickup the noise comes right back. I never play both pickups at full volume, I haven't found a set yet (HB or otherwise) where they sound good with both pickups on at full volume.
 
DirtySteve said:
I'm not convinced RWRP is even a thing to worry about
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I have both on hand. I like the RWRP. I do not hate the standard wind. BUT if they’re hot wound p’ups…which mine aren’t…I would prefer RWRP.
DirtySteve said:
I haven't found a set yet (HB or otherwise) where they sound good with both pickups on at full volume.
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I’m sorry for that.
The set in the guitar I posted, does the noise cancellation thing pretty well (imo) even when the volume controls are set “off” of each other. The analogy that I would choose is: They behave like a fader, the volume controls, the closer they are to unity, the closer they are to cancellation. As they are separated, they move away from full cancellation in a measured fashion…it’s not like a switch when one volume is at 10, and the other is at 9.5…it’s more like the hum level rises to scale with the difference in volume levels.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
I have both on hand. I like the RWRP. I do not hate the standard wind. BUT if they’re hot wound p’ups…which mine aren’t…I would prefer RWRP.

I’m sorry for that.
The set in the guitar I posted, does the noise cancellation thing pretty well (imo) even when the volume controls are set “off” of each other. The analogy that I would choose is: They behave like a fader, the volume controls, the closer they are to unity, the closer they are to cancellation. As they are separated, they move away from full cancellation in a measured fashion…it’s not like a switch when one volume is at 10, and the other is at 9.5…it’s more like the hum level rises to scale with the difference in volume levels.
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I'm wondering if my wiring has something to do with it. I hate the wiring and loose pots in this guitar. As soon a I settle on a set of pickups I'll be putting an RS guitarworks harness in it.

I know you're not trying, you didn't even tell me what they were until I asked, but you're selling me on those pickups ya know? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
DirtySteve said:
I'm wondering if my wiring has something to do with it. I hate the wiring and loose pots in this guitar. As soon a I settle on a set of pickups I'll be putting an RS guitarworks harness in it.
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I dunno bout the wiring…it does have that LP switch wiring thing…iirc, I have an RS rig in my Crescent Moon SG…not positive though…I’d have to crack it open.
DirtySteve said:
I know you're not trying, you didn't even tell me what they were until I asked, but you're selling me on those pickups ya know? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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You could do worse than strike a conversation with Mick Manlius in regard to selecting pickups. He used to be pretty responsive…but it’s been a long time since I felt the need to. He was nice to try to help me…I mean…I’m an idiot…I needed it…
His prices are fair too… ;) :rolf:
No…I’m not trying to sell you. I know you will find your own path.
 
Ok, so today I took out the Lollar neck pickup and put in the SD Hot P90 neck pickup I have. I was scared to put it in because it's 12k which seems crazy high to me for a neck pickup, but...it works! I like it. I also put the Custom P90 back in. I have to say, I really liked the Wolfetone Meanest P90 in there, but where it lacks is rolling the volume down for some reason it goes all thin and blah, where the SD Custom P90 sounds great with the guitar volume rolled down. the problem is, the Wolfetone sounds better to me at full volume rocking out than the Custom does.

I really think I want to try swapping magnets in the Custom, I think it might even be a feel thing more than a sound thing, but it makes a difference. I like a spongy feel and ceramics are the opposite of that. It seems like the last time I swapped double thick magnets for standard size I had to swap out the base plate screws and the pole screws to make it work so it's not as easy as just swapping mags, but it might be worth it. I tried to find some double thick Alnicos, but a search came up empty. I guess they aren't a thing. Oddly, the ceramics in the neck pickup don't bother me.

I did come across a thread on the SD forum where someone was gluing 2 regular Alnico magnets together to make a double thick and that seemed like a good idea until they started talking about having to regause using neo magnets and that's where they lost me.

Anyway, all I'm saying is I think I found my neck pickup. lol, and yay!
 
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Thatbastarddon said:
We gravitate to numbers to justify our actions sometimes.
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Agreed. I never measured the P90s in the 1953, I like em amd obviously won't change them out for any reason. They sound great IMO. Could they sound better? Maybe. Can't remove them in any case.
I'm just not that picky I guess. If it sounds good, set er up and let er rip is how I do things. But that doesn't work for everyone, granted.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Agreed. I never measured the P90s in the 1953, I like em amd obviously won't change them out for any reason. They sound great IMO. Could they sound better? Maybe. Can't remove them in any case.
I'm just not that picky I guess. If it sounds good, set er up and let er rip is how I do things. But that doesn't work for everyone, granted.
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Well yeah, if I had a '53 I wouldn't change the pickups either...that'd be crazy.
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What I'm doing here is trying to make this guitar my #1 and for that to happen it needs to do metal while still being a P90 guitar that can do the P90 thing. So far it's working out great, except for the noise when I have it gained up, but I'll worry about that later. I much prefer it to my HBs already. I'm just fine tuning here.
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Love the new avatar!! :yesway:
 
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DirtySteve said:
Well yeah, if I had a '53 I wouldn't change the pickups either...that'd be crazy.
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What I'm doing here is trying to make this guitar my #1 and for that to happen it needs to do metal while still being a P90 guitar that can do the P90 thing. So far it's working out great, except for the noise when I have it gained up, but I'll worry about that later. I much prefer it to my HBs already. I'm just fine tuning here.
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Love the new avatar!! :yesway:
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Oh I get it totally. I have changed many a pickup, it wasn't meant as a slight in way. You gotta make it number 1 and not be second guessing. Measurements help but ear is the key.
I am actually shocked at how good and grindy an old single coil P90 is. Insane. I really like it!
Try a noise gate?
Jeez I love that Pelham blue...
 
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