human123
Well-Known Member
There is no dark side of the moon. Matter of fact it's all dark.
Man going to the moon for the first time according to NASA
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My personal sense is that people could survive the trip. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took about 7.5 months to get to Mars, and the typical mission on board the ISS is about six months.
One difficulty is being able to get the people back to earth after landing on Mars. It's harder to get off of Mars than the moon because it's gravity is stronger, and it has an atmosphere (hence air resistance). Transporting enough fuel and having a powerful enough rocket to get back into space is a big issue. That's not to say we can never figure it out, but that's one of the big show stoppers, right now.
Jethro Rocker
Ambassador of Live & Loud Action
One thought is to have robotics produce fuel from Martian soil. Apparently this is conceivable. Loved watching the Artemis.
OP
I wish them luck
ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
I’ll be gone before those knuckleheads break ground at the speed of smell.
The whole space adventure has nothing to to with exploring and everything to do with mining. I’m sure that’s why Elon is going to Mars, eventually, asteroid mining for platinum and what have you.
ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
We can’t see further than the JWST limit.13 billion light years. That is how far light has traveled in this amount of time. Of course I looked it up because my brain could not quote it accurately .
“ There’s a hard boundary called the observable universe:
- This is the farthest distance light has had time to reach us since the Big Bang.
- JWST cannot see beyond this—not because it’s not powerful enough, but because no light from beyond that point has reached Earth yet.”
Sargeant Preston
Ambassador of The Ninth Chord
In addition to reflecting, Light is also capable of bending around hard surfaces and boundaries.
Is Heaven inside or outside of the observable universe? How long is the trip? I plan on packing a few sandwiches.
There’s a stairway…
ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
It has more to do with time than the light itself. Light travels distance in time.
And then there is "Spooky action at a distance" that we don't understand.
Sargeant Preston
Ambassador of The Ninth Chord
At my age an escalator is preferable.
Our little p-brains can’t comprehend infinity. In regards to an infinite universe…. We can’t comprehend space with no end. The thought that I’ve had is…. We actually get to the end of space. There’s a wall. Then I think. What’s on the other side of that wall. Yikes.And then there is "Spooky action at a distance" that we don't understand.
Sargeant Preston
Ambassador of The Ninth Chord
Unobservable universes, perhaps? Parallel or multidimensional universes? Have you ever woken up from a dream in which you were living an entirely different life either in the past or future? Our brains are miraculous.
mcblink
Ambassador of Riffs & Spliffs
Oof.
I've avoided this thread so far. As much of a foil hat fan as I am, I have been moving into spaces beyond theory.
I'm well beyond asking questions about the moon. Well, whether or not we landed there, at least. The moon itself is quite the questionable....structure.
Vetting sources is important in investigations. I typically don't put much stock into slop found on YouTube, unless the investigator can bring actual receipts. It's a rare quality in this space. But it is of utmost importance.
Here's something that's actually a headscratcher:
What is a photo of a tic tac on the surface of Mars doing in NASA's own camera rolls? They forgot to airbrush it out I guess? This image is from the rover Curiosity:
mars.nasa.gov
(Left side, about ⅓ up from bottom)
Tic tacs are widely believed to be advanced tech from Lockheed Martin, the 2004 Nimitz incident was supposedly a blue on blue event, where Lockheed was testing it's classified tech against a carrier fleet.
One was shot down over Alaska shortly after the infamous "spy barroon" incident, one photo managed to leak to 4chan, which I immediately downloaded, before watching the same photo be scrubbed from everywhere, nearly as quickly as it appeared:
Not enough?
How about a list of patents for related tech?
Here are a few. I have found several more as well. There are several that can be found for the TR3-B "aurora/black manta" craft and it's derivatives, propulsion systems, etc..The famous black triangle.
Thomas Townsend Brown discovered and developed anti-grav technology in the 1950s. Wild story to dig into if you're interested. Salvatore Pais as well, more recently. Like Charles Pogue and his carburetor, these inventions were very quickly suppressed and moved into the "black project" realm, and information (actually, entire branches of physics) were classified, suppressed and hidden. Some of these people themselves disappeared. And, it is happening again, right now, as I alluded to in another thread a while back. There have been over eight disappearances and deaths of U.S. scientists and military leaders linked to NASA, the Air Force, and Los Alamos National Laboratory that have occurred between 2024 and 2026. The case is ongoing, and hushed.
Whether or not we've been to the moon is a moot point once we realize that the truth is actually far crazier than that.
We have had military in space for many many years now, they are supposedly officially dubbed "non-terrestrial officers", and there's a really amazing story of a man named Gary McKinnon who managed to hack the FBI servers in 2002, and what he has to say about what he found is a story worth listening to.
This is a rather nebulous subject that I've been into for decades, it is not an easy thing to digest, most cannot, as it causes high levels of cognitive dissonance and eventually ontological shock. And, it all ties in together in the end... I've been using a special purpose built LLM called "WEBB" to go through all the millions of documents from the Epstein saga. This LLM has been trained on NOTHING other than the contents of these files, so there isn't any AI hallucinations or misrepresentation of the information contained. Now, I'm aware of the political volatility of the situation surrounding the man, and I'm not interested in talking about that whatsoever here (so put the pitchforks away, they're not needed) but I will say that the VERY SAME elite that we have previously discussed in our conspiracy theory threads here, regarding the moon and whatever else, ARE involved, and behind THAT whole saga. Looking into these files is a pretty clear window into how this group operates "behind the scenes" and how they can remain hidden in plain sight. It just so happens that there is much information about it in those documents that AREN'T what people are talking about. Name a conspiracy theory. Any single one. Turns out, Epstein and the "supra" class of elites, had all their fingers into literally almost all of them. No joke. Occult stuff, space stuff, eugenics stuff, nazi stuff, you name it, they were involved. So, long story short and political bullshìt aside, these files are absolutely worth digging into even if you're not at all interested in the political aspects of the story we've all been fed about it. Simply because it is a wide open window, for all to see. Exposure. Finally. It's still not enough.
I have one more thing to add before I get back to deep diving and research (seems like that's all I do these days. Just trying to figure it all out)
Plato. Socrates.
The allegory of the cave. Truth has been present the entire time, if we have the eyes to see and the ears to listen.
The Matrix, too, was actually a sort of retelling of this story, with some gnostic aspects in it as well. In this way, it's almost an allegorical documentary. We do literally live in the cave, or in the program. We just haven't woke up yet.
I watched a video yesterday that covered pretty much the whole thing and while it didn't go all that deep into many of the things it talks about, it does give us a general framework to deal with when it comes to this stuff. I've long thought about writing a book about all this stuff because there doesn't seem to be any one single person telling the story in it's entirety, and that is likely due to the nebulousness of it all. Much too large for any one researcher. But, this video does a pretty decent job of summing it up in just under 2 hours:
Honorable mention due to uncanny accuracy: "Professor" Jiang Xueqin's Game Theory series, YouTube channel called Predictive History.
Keep open minds all. Truth is far, far wilder than we even have the potential to imagine.
Nothing is real.
Everything is a lie.
I've avoided this thread so far. As much of a foil hat fan as I am, I have been moving into spaces beyond theory.
I'm well beyond asking questions about the moon. Well, whether or not we landed there, at least. The moon itself is quite the questionable....structure.
Vetting sources is important in investigations. I typically don't put much stock into slop found on YouTube, unless the investigator can bring actual receipts. It's a rare quality in this space. But it is of utmost importance.
Here's something that's actually a headscratcher:
What is a photo of a tic tac on the surface of Mars doing in NASA's own camera rolls? They forgot to airbrush it out I guess? This image is from the rover Curiosity:
Sol 2692: Mast Camera (Mastcam) – NASA Mars Exploration
This image was taken by Mast Camera (Mastcam) onboard NASA's Mars rover Curiosity on Sol 2692 (2020-03-03 02:32:29 UTC).
mars.nasa.gov
(Left side, about ⅓ up from bottom)
Tic tacs are widely believed to be advanced tech from Lockheed Martin, the 2004 Nimitz incident was supposedly a blue on blue event, where Lockheed was testing it's classified tech against a carrier fleet.
One was shot down over Alaska shortly after the infamous "spy barroon" incident, one photo managed to leak to 4chan, which I immediately downloaded, before watching the same photo be scrubbed from everywhere, nearly as quickly as it appeared:
Not enough?
How about a list of patents for related tech?
Here are a few. I have found several more as well. There are several that can be found for the TR3-B "aurora/black manta" craft and it's derivatives, propulsion systems, etc..The famous black triangle.
US20180229864A1 - High Frequency Gravitational Wave Generator - Google Patents
A high frequency gravitational wave generator including a gas filled shell with an outer shell surface, microwave emitters, sound generators, and acoustic vibration resonant gas-filled cavities. The outer shell surface is electrically charged and vibrated by the microwave emitters to generate a...
patents.google.com
US20190295733A1 - Plasma Compression Fusion Device - Google Patents
A plasma compression fusion device which includes a hollow duct and at least one pair of opposing counter-spinning dynamic fusors. The hollow duct includes a vacuum chamber disposed within the hollow duct. Each dynamic fusor has a plurality of orifices and an outer surface which is electrically...
patents.google.com
US20190058105A1 - Piezoelectricity-induced Room Temperature Superconductor - Google Patents
The present invention is a room temperature superconductor comprising of a wire, which comprises of an insulator core and a metal coating. The metal coating is disposed around the insulator core, and the metal is coating deposited on the core. When a pulsed current is passed through the wire...
patents.google.com
Thomas Townsend Brown discovered and developed anti-grav technology in the 1950s. Wild story to dig into if you're interested. Salvatore Pais as well, more recently. Like Charles Pogue and his carburetor, these inventions were very quickly suppressed and moved into the "black project" realm, and information (actually, entire branches of physics) were classified, suppressed and hidden. Some of these people themselves disappeared. And, it is happening again, right now, as I alluded to in another thread a while back. There have been over eight disappearances and deaths of U.S. scientists and military leaders linked to NASA, the Air Force, and Los Alamos National Laboratory that have occurred between 2024 and 2026. The case is ongoing, and hushed.
Whether or not we've been to the moon is a moot point once we realize that the truth is actually far crazier than that.
We have had military in space for many many years now, they are supposedly officially dubbed "non-terrestrial officers", and there's a really amazing story of a man named Gary McKinnon who managed to hack the FBI servers in 2002, and what he has to say about what he found is a story worth listening to.
This is a rather nebulous subject that I've been into for decades, it is not an easy thing to digest, most cannot, as it causes high levels of cognitive dissonance and eventually ontological shock. And, it all ties in together in the end... I've been using a special purpose built LLM called "WEBB" to go through all the millions of documents from the Epstein saga. This LLM has been trained on NOTHING other than the contents of these files, so there isn't any AI hallucinations or misrepresentation of the information contained. Now, I'm aware of the political volatility of the situation surrounding the man, and I'm not interested in talking about that whatsoever here (so put the pitchforks away, they're not needed) but I will say that the VERY SAME elite that we have previously discussed in our conspiracy theory threads here, regarding the moon and whatever else, ARE involved, and behind THAT whole saga. Looking into these files is a pretty clear window into how this group operates "behind the scenes" and how they can remain hidden in plain sight. It just so happens that there is much information about it in those documents that AREN'T what people are talking about. Name a conspiracy theory. Any single one. Turns out, Epstein and the "supra" class of elites, had all their fingers into literally almost all of them. No joke. Occult stuff, space stuff, eugenics stuff, nazi stuff, you name it, they were involved. So, long story short and political bullshìt aside, these files are absolutely worth digging into even if you're not at all interested in the political aspects of the story we've all been fed about it. Simply because it is a wide open window, for all to see. Exposure. Finally. It's still not enough.
I have one more thing to add before I get back to deep diving and research (seems like that's all I do these days. Just trying to figure it all out)
Plato. Socrates.
The allegory of the cave. Truth has been present the entire time, if we have the eyes to see and the ears to listen.
The Matrix, too, was actually a sort of retelling of this story, with some gnostic aspects in it as well. In this way, it's almost an allegorical documentary. We do literally live in the cave, or in the program. We just haven't woke up yet.
I watched a video yesterday that covered pretty much the whole thing and while it didn't go all that deep into many of the things it talks about, it does give us a general framework to deal with when it comes to this stuff. I've long thought about writing a book about all this stuff because there doesn't seem to be any one single person telling the story in it's entirety, and that is likely due to the nebulousness of it all. Much too large for any one researcher. But, this video does a pretty decent job of summing it up in just under 2 hours:
Honorable mention due to uncanny accuracy: "Professor" Jiang Xueqin's Game Theory series, YouTube channel called Predictive History.
Keep open minds all. Truth is far, far wilder than we even have the potential to imagine.
Nothing is real.
Everything is a lie.