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TVvoodoo

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Now that I got that out of the way, I ask members keep this thread FOCUSED on Project: Orpheus.
Don’t like this concept? Please do everyone a favor and ignore this thread, resist adding negative opinions, or refrain from future visitation.
Participants want to have fun and enjoy supportive, positive conversations. Don't drag us down.
However, this does NOT mean your Orpheus creative output is in any way forced to follow happy/joy vibes.
I doubt that'll happen with this crew! Lightness and shadow. We need that.

You are fully welcome to Express yourself with your output. Can't wait to hear it.
If we can get this right from the get-go, amazing times are ahead.

My next post will begin the journey, or "pre-journey."
 
To get participants interested and started, I want to first sweep away fear and intimidation.
So, this first post needs to be a bit of a TL/DR post. Other posts will not be near as long, I hope!

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Project: Orpheus is an interactive guide to building-out your own personal concept album of ten (or more) cuts, plus more program components to be introduced, such as community collaboration, and other fun things ahead.
Over the span of a year, via 6 week (ish) components we will do just that.

Some may choose to forge ahead, some may fall back. No pressure.

Must be stated I have absolutely ZERO experience at this, BUT... as a lifelong creative, I see the process can be broken down into smaller pieces. Makes these things MUCH less daunting. This is something I feel I do have experience with. Bear in mind I’ll be taking part myself, while also building out our road ahead as we go. Therefore, I understand your process may not be like mine. Perhaps you’ll find other ways, move faster - but I suggest you try to follow the plan I’ve put some effort into, so we can enjoy traveling together. I also believe it may help some participants avoid possible roadblocks looming ahead.

Participate any way you wish, but all will be making and sharing creative pieces of ourselves, however we choose to create them.

Hardest part of Project: Orpheus will be to get going! If we make ONE small step forward right now, the next ones become way easier.
If you are still only considering taking part, why not join in this first step to get ready for the official/official start in December?
May be the hardest for some, the easiest for others. Later on the music-making begins.

As of today I’m practically starting from scratch too. Some ideas bouncing around my head, but NO solid plan on where I’m going.
And that is ALL we need to start. Raw small ideas. Concept albums do NOT magically appear out of the ether, after all.

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To begin, all you need to do is begin striking a mental flint to come up with a few creative sparks. As the journey continues, you’ll gently add tinder, blow on those sparks.
Hopefully it'll start to build into a fiery creative blaze. Don’t worry too much yet about theme, mood, or characters - your epic tale will come to life later.

Simply put, we’re about to tell a story. What sort of yarn do you wish to weave? Think on that. Doesn’t need to be super fleshed-out or complex at this point. Might be deeply personal based on your past, or a complete fantasy world. Right now, only think in terms of a ten-second elevator pitch for a screenplay: the who, when, why, and how.

I suggest you get a notebook to keep handy to jot down your "idea" sparks.
Many of you already know ideas often appear at the oddest, most inopportune times. Wise thing is to GET THEM DOWN on record! Sometimes they’ll be genius, sometimes complete
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. But, once you have them down, you allow yourself a palate of simple colours to mix, adapt and choose from, instead of floating randomly in a creative vacuum.

If you don’t jot them down, they’re too often lost forever. An absence of ideas slams the brakes hard on getting started. Even worse, when we fail to collect, artistic frustration begins to infect our brains, eating further away at motivation and self-esteem. Soon you’re left with a nothing but a dark, empty void.

Large, small, wonderful or dumb: Record your ideas. Even bad seeds can often be nurtured to become twisted but interesting vines.

With enough member interest, the first ‘official’ Project Orpheus stage will start with “Theme-Building” in December. No harm in thinking on that, save those ideas. But your sparks are more important right now. If you can build up a bunch of those, you’ll likely be chomping at the bit when the starting gun goes off.

I suggest you relieve a vast amount of creative/production pressure off yourself with SUNO AI music Creation.
Millions of music lovers all stripes are using these tools today. I’m viewing my own project as more about “Production/Direction” than as a “musician.”
That’s me personally. I am captivated by the idea of having a vast library of digital “talents” sittin’ there waiting for my ideas, guidance and direction.
The Use of Artificial Intelligence allows the widest spectrum of particpants, and will serve to make this journey more interesting for all.

1. Sign up, free or paid to build credits. You can do plenty with the free version, you may want to upgrade later to get even more credits. They add 50 daily I think, but burn off five at a time as you generate songs. You’ll want some in reserve.

2. Experiment. Find plenty of tips via simple searches. You’ll see how flexible it is, how it can REALLY help with lyrics. That’s a block for many, and it will belt out your cut 'n paste lyrics in pretty much any voice or approximate musical flavor you choose.

Once again, scratch-made music absolutely and fully welcome for this project. I salute you!

Discussion now open, keep it project-focused please. Do NOT dump your random tunes, lyrics, or derail attempts. As we near the December start, she's gonna get real interesting.

Those who wish to participate pleaes lock in before December 1, State it here openly.
It serves to encourage others, and puts you in the mindframe to begin creating.

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For the December start, all YOU need to have is your general story idea.

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Don’t think it has to be a crazy/complex idea, either. You'll want to build that out via your storytelling details later.

As a matter of fact, if you feel like you maybe don't have it in you, I'll bet AI can create a decent concept, and ten smaller bites of it if you simply ask. It can then write ALL the lyrics, AND create ALL the songs.

There's likely somewhat compelling concept albums already in the Sunoverse fully AI generated in less than one hour.

Afore you get that extreme, slow your rolls bros!
Once you latch onto small ideas, the tinder on which to start your narrative bonfire, momentum will begin to pick up as we go.
You’ll gradually be drawn into your story, ideas start flowing, your tale may even almost begin to tell itself, revealing multiple paths ahead faster than you can write ‘em down.

Now I had AI generate some possibles to assist you in this line of thinking. You’re totally welcome to borrow, adapt, or devise your own. Key things are, your theme needs to be interesting and provide you roads and directions for creative opportunities.

Some opportunities will grow into individual songs.

The Last Human on Earth – A lone survivor wanders a silent, overgrown planet centuries after humanity’s disappearance, piecing together what went wrong through abandoned cities and forgotten recordings.

A Sentient AI’s Love Story – An artificial consciousness falls in love with its creator, then grapples with jealousy, obsolescence, and the ethics of its own existence as it’s scheduled for deletion.

The 12 Hours Before the Apocalypse – Real-time chronicle of the final half-day of civilization, told from multiple perspectives (a politician, a child, a soldier, a doomsday prophet).

Reincarnation Across Centuries – One soul keeps returning in different eras (ancient Rome, medieval plague, 1920s jazz age, cyberpunk future), searching for the same lost love who never remembers them.

The Dream Thief – A mysterious figure who steals people’s dreams and sells them on the black market, until one stolen dream begins to fight back from inside his mind.

A City That Eats Memories – In a dystopian metropolis, citizens voluntarily surrender painful memories for credits — but the discarded memories are starting to coalesce into something monstrous.

The Astronaut Who Fell to Earth – After decades alone in orbit, an astronaut returns to a planet that has forgotten space travel entirely and now worships the sky as god.

The Seven Stages of Grief as Actual Realms – A journey through literal worlds representing Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance after losing a child/partner.

Time-Loop Amnesia – Every day the protagonist wakes up having forgotten the previous loop, but slowly pieces together that they’re trapped in a cycle trying to prevent a murder.

The Library of Unwritten Books – A secret archive containing every book that was conceived but never finished; each song is a “chapter” from a different abandoned masterpiece.

A War Told Only Through Letters Home – Soldiers on both sides write increasingly desperate letters that are never sent, revealing the human cost behind propaganda.

The Ghost Radio Station – A pirate station that only broadcasts at 3:33 a.m., playing songs from the future and messages from the dead.

Android Messiah – A machine is born/activated that believes it is the second coming, gathering followers in a near-future world starving for meaning.

The Man Who Sold His Shadow – After literally selling his shadow for fame, a rock star watches it gain sentience and begin a better career without him.

The Last Summer of Analog – A nostalgic, bittersweet chronicle of the final year before the internet swallows everything, told through the eyes of teenagers in 1999.

The Plague Doctor’s Notebook – 1665 London through the eyes of a masked physician treating patients while slowly realizing he’s spreading the disease himself.

A Spaceship Crew in Cryosleep Dreaming the Same Dream – Over centuries, their collective subconscious creates an entire shared civilization that begins to rebel against waking up.

The Kingdom Beneath the Cemetery – The dead have built a sprawling, inverted empire under the graveyard, and a grieving widow discovers the entrance.

The Color That Drives People Mad – A new wavelength of light appears that causes obsession, violence, and transcendence; society fractures over whether to embrace or destroy it.

The Immortal Who Wants to Die – After 800 years, an immortal seeks the one person who can kill them — only to keep falling in love with every candidate.


Some of those are rather weird, but the common things they all share is the excitement of POSSIBILITIES.
And, don’t think it has to be a crazy complex idea, either. You can build it out via storytelling later.

Once you have an idea, the tinder upon which to start your narrative bonfire, momentum will begin to pick up as we go.
You’ll gradually be drawn into your story, ideas start flowing, your tale may even almost begin to tell itself,
revealing multiple possibilities ahead faster than you can write ‘em down.

Get that notebook going!
 
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Now in, and plenty of room for more... again, the more the merrier.
It will only be as hard as YOU choose to make it. Play it easy and casual,
or dig deep into yourself and pull your heart out of your chest. Just do it.

Orpheus Project Participants so far...
TVvoodoo
Kerry Brown
PLX
Mouse
Ibmorjmamn
Anynirar27
Liveevil2000

You have until probably midway December to decide, but you will be FAR better
positioned to succeed if you get in early. Way less pressure on you.
 
Maestros...

We'll loosely follow the classic three-act format, it's time-tested and practically built into our human DNA.
So, when your ideas are sparkin' all over the place, keep in mind a big picture later how they *may* fit with
1. Setup
2. Conflict
3. Resolution

Sound difficult? Not at all!

First we'll have us all a nice situation. Then, uh-oh... problems! Then, a bunch of cool / dramatic / funny stuff happens. And... after some tough doing, PHEW! It'll all get worked out.

Easy-Peasy!

There are many variations. More often nowadays we see multiple small conflicts, then a couple entertaining resolutions that eventually builds into a dramatic "big boss problem" conflict.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Having a bunch of SPARKY little ideas and your Elevator Pitch are perfect for this next week.

In your notebook, of course!

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My sparks are a-sparkin'

Indigenous peoples. Data Centers. Bitcoin. Drone war. A terrifying supernatural monster. Gene editing. Cloning. Rogue provinces. An Impossibly massive nuclear reactor.
Rivers of Pilsner & whiskey! NRG City. Tyranny. Manifest Destiny. Elon. Washington burns... again!

This I can work with!

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Maestro Tip: I'm finding let your imagination run WILD. Sort it out later. No dumb ideas. Tweak, organize, cull.
It frickin' works!

Got me a real notebook, and a phone app notepad thing going.

Are YOU gettin' sparks?

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Anyone can jump into this.
Welcoming all participants.
 
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I have a concept and tittle in one word.
on paper.
That's a start J. But trust me, ain't near enough to work with later.
You're gonna need more a lot down than that!

Strongly suggest you DON'T attempt to store everything in your head unless you want to spend a lot of time looking like Chili here later on

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That's a start J. But trust me, ain't near enough to work with later.
You're gonna need more a lot down than that!

Strongly suggest you DON'T attempt to store everything in your head unless
you want to spend a lot of time looking like Chili here later on

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I have several stems of different riffs and beats I have worked since you announced this. No songs, just pieces.
Looking like Chilli got him a long way.lol
 
Most of what I have done so far has an ambiance to it , clean guitar , delay , echo and so on.

You are probably aren’t ready for this style of composition . I have some song titles tentatively .
The trick is actually writing 10 cohesive songs in the same context.
 
Most of what I have done so far has an ambiance to it , clean guitar , delay , echo and so on.

You are probably aren’t ready for this style of composition . I have some song titles tentatively .
The trick is actually writing 10 cohesive songs in the same context.
You're right. I'm not quite ready for where you're going at all!

Be wary of painting yourself in a corner with too much recording at this point. Can't stop you! BUT... at this early stage planning is more important so you don't end up with ten tracks too similar or which don't propel your narrative (which we haven't yet begun to design). Now is the time for more thinking, some rough-out writing, less recording.

I don't want to reveal too much of the road ahead, but Stage 2 starting in December we will build a single song, your introductory "overture" which will likely describe your ground-zero situation, hint at a conflict to come, set a mood, and begin to introduce your sonic "motif"

But... I man, gotta high five you on chompin' at the bit.
Sounds like you are already feeling inspired!

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@Sargeant Preston Sgt. Pepper and Tommy predate Styx by just a little bit LOL!
 
You're right. I'm not quite ready for where you're going at all!

Be wary of painting yourself in a corner with too much recording at this point. Can't stop you! BUT... at this early stage planning is more important so you don't end up with ten tracks too similar or which don't propel your narrative (which we haven't yet begun to design). Now is the time for more thinking, some rough-out writing, less recording.

I don't want to reveal too much of the road ahead, but Stage 2 starting in December we will build a single song, your introductory "overture" which will likely describe your ground-zero situation, hint at a conflict to come, set a mood, and begin to introduce your sonic "motif"

But... I man, gotta high five you on chompin' at the bit.
Sounds like you are already feeling inspired!

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@Sargeant Preston Sgt. Pepper and Tommy predate Styx by just a little bit LOL!
Well, I am excited to just have something to do musically. All summer I have worked on outdoor projects. Don’t get to worried. No songs just a handful of stems that could easily be trashed.
 
Well, I am excited to just have something to do musically. All summer I have worked on outdoor projects. Don’t get to worried. No songs just a handful of stems that could easily be trashed.
Who knows? You could very well already be better at this than me! I certainly don't want this to be a clone-ish cookie-cutter process for all... some different approaches will provide us variation in our results.
 
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@Sargeant Preston Sgt. Pepper and Tommy predate Styx by just a little bit LOL!
You're right, but Styx immediately comes to my mind whenever someone mentions "Concept/Theme" albums. It's a great album.

In reality, the best original "Concept/Theme" albums were produced and recorded by country music artists decades ago. Songs about lost love, cheatin', and having your truck stolen. Heart wrenching stuff like that.

@ibmorjamn said that writing 10 cohesive songs in the same context is tricky.

It certainly is.
 
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