Fuel Cell

[Session 5]

The Hyundai Motor Group reached a major milestone in its hydrogen fuel cell truck journey: 10 million kilometers (6.2 million miles) on the road in Switzerland! The Korean motor manufacturer released a fleet of XCIENT Fuel Cell trucks in the European country, and in just three years and eight months, they traveled the equivalent of circling the Earth 250 times."

Hyundai’s XCIENT model produces zero carbon dioxide and emits nothing but pure water—
Energy-efficient
Low noise pollution
Lower operational costs
Quick refueling
Reliable and robust parts
Decentralized power supply

 

[Amp Mad Scientist]

The Hyundai Motor Group reached a major milestone in its hydrogen fuel cell truck journey: 10 million kilometers (6.2 million miles) on the road in Switzerland! The Korean motor manufacturer released a fleet of XCIENT Fuel Cell trucks in the European country, and in just three years and eight months, they traveled the equivalent of circling the Earth 250 times."

Hyundai’s XCIENT model produces zero carbon dioxide and emits nothing but pure water—
Energy-efficient
Low noise pollution
Lower operational costs
Quick refueling
Reliable and robust parts
Decentralized power supply

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The thing that this overlooks,
the energy used to produce store transport and dispense the hydrogen. It all comes from burning fuels.

Moving carbon from the tailpipe to a hydrogen plant (or a power plant) does not produce a zero emission vehicle.

When these guys make all the electricity from non-fuel sources, I'll shut up.
But so far almost all electricity is coming from burning fuel. That is the electricity used to produce the hydrogen.

 

[Boubou]

Being a chemist, I have worked with lithium salts and with hydrogen. While hydrogen is super clean, well it’s combustion, not sure about how it’s generated, it basically is an explosion waiting to happen. . I know nothing about fuel cell technology, but at some point, you have to generate hydrogen.
I remember a ball of fire that went across the labe in a reaction that was generating hydrogen.
I am all for it, but I reserve the right to check on its safety

 

[Don O]

Being a chemist, I have worked with lithium salts and with hydrogen. While hydrogen is super clean, well it’s combustion, not sure about how it’s generated, it basically is an explosion waiting to happen. . I know nothing about fuel cell technology, but at some point, you have to generate hydrogen.
I remember a ball of fire that went across the labe in a reaction that was generating hydrogen.
I am all for it, but I reserve the right to check on its safety

This comes to mind…

 

[iblive]

I’m holding out till fusion is developed and can be used in transportation.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

Being a chemist, I have worked with lithium salts and with hydrogen. While hydrogen is super clean, well it’s combustion, not sure about how it’s generated, it basically is an explosion waiting to happen. . I know nothing about fuel cell technology, but at some point, you have to generate hydrogen.
I remember a ball of fire that went across the labe in a reaction that was generating hydrogen.
I am all for it, but I reserve the right to check on its safety

Yeah, dunno on that end. . Of course it was used as power in the Apollo spacecraft albeit with rather complex super critical cold pressurized tanks. So it has been around for quite awhile.

 

[Ghostman]

If we keep looking for perfect solutions from the onset, we will continue to stay mired in antiquated technology.

This is a great step forward in alternate fuel technologies. I'm all for the development. I'm also, NOT saying, "this is the perfect solution."

 

[iblive]

If we keep looking for perfect solutions from the onset, we will continue to stay mired in antiquated technology.

This is a great step forward in alternate fuel technologies. I'm all for the development. I'm also, NOT saying, "this is the perfect solution."

We have to remember. It took like 120 years to get the internal combustion automobile from inception to where we are today. We can’t expect new tech to happen overnight. Just like internal combustion…. There’s gonna be growing pains. We’ll get there, just not likely in my lifetime. But certainly my kids and definitely the grandkids.